October Army 2016

[starty]

Day shift reporting for duty

[questeroo]

:sohappy::yay:Good morning starty and army. Sober Saturday night means a fresh Sunday morning.

[starty]

Morning Questy! Yes that is very true. How are you doing?

[questeroo]

Morning Questy! Yes that is very true. How are you doing?

Hi Starty, I'm OK thanks. As expected Friday didn't work but last night did. No AL for me. I need a plan and some tools. White knuckling it is gonna be hard without a plan. How are you doing ? :love:

[starty]

Well done! You have a tough part of your plan done. The decision to be sober. For me that was the crux of my plan, once the decision is made the rest will follow. Did you read the posts on here by Mr Vervill and Ahfi ? I am grand thanks. Day 37 today so looking forward to the big 40.

[questeroo]

Well done! You have a tough part of your plan done. The decision to be sober. For me that was the crux of my plan, once the decision is made the rest will follow. Did you read the posts on here by Mr Vervill and Ahfi ? I am grand thanks. Day 37 today so looking forward to the big 40.

No I didn't see those posts... Smashing it starty !!

[satz123]

Morning.
I think if someone's mind is made up - nothing anyone can say will change it.
And if it did - there is always the next time.
Being constantly picked up and put back on the horse by others is not going to help imvho. They need to grab that horse's leg & climb into the saddle themselves because they WANT to more than anything..
:egad: sorry for all the horsy references ....

The want to stop has to come from inside.
So I think our main job here is to connect - show by example sober living - give advice from experience.
From that those struggling will truly KNOW that to be sober is what they want more than anything.

[starty]

Thats how I got through previously Satzy, with the knowledge that sober living is possible and indeed a much better way to live than the alternative. Seeing people doing it proved that it could be done.

I am not sure I would reach out if I was thinking about drinking at least I have never done it in the past

[starty]

I think you are right about the age thing Molls. I do not for one minute think I could have done it when I was young. And now I actually WANT a different way of life. My thinking has been changed in an instant before. That is the scary part. Or maybe it was a sequence of events that I barely noticed things shifting. Hmmmm inneresting thought....

[starty]

or me Starty -- last thing I wanted was (as I would have seen it at the time) 'do-gooders' advice

Ha ha! Yes, that would have made me even more determined

Energy levels. Mine are still quite low. Any thoughts?

[satz123]

I wonder however is there a difference with many of us of a 'certain age' maybe who've been there done that etc... and truly have had enough and have happily moved on to this new life -- I FEEL that's the case for me anyway --

Yes I've always said I believe age has a lot to do with it.
Someone in their 20s or 30s will find it more difficult to get sober due to social pressures.

[satz123]

Ha ha! Yes, that would have made me even more determined

Energy levels. Mine are still quite low. Any thoughts?

From the sound of you Starts you do lots.
Full time job / dogging every day etc.

Don't be so hard on yourself - let the energy build up gradually. You're missing a hell of a lot of calories from the grog :haha:

[satz123]

Now I'm away :llama:............ walking & coffee with friends with problems . :egad:

[starty]

From the sound of you Starts you do lots.
Full time job / dogging every day etc.

Don't be so hard on yourself - let the energy build up gradually. You're missing a hell of a lot of calories from the grog :haha:

Yeah good point. I guess I need to remember that. Thanks

[starty]

But the part I'm talking about is the part that we've ALL felt -- whether we've acknowledged it even to ourselves is another matter - but I don't doubt we've all (mostly) experienced it - it's the part between drink being irrelevant and unwanted and the lifting of the glass - it's the part where we allow a little bit of 'permission' into our heads -- you know the 'well if ..... happened I would ' or 'everyone will be away that week and no one will know' or 'life is so shit I'll just have one blow-out' - or 'I wonder AM I that bad?' --- and loads and loads more -- that's when the face to face will bring us back to reality back from the brink of nonsense... long long before I would have decided to drink

HEM

yes I think so -- but I wouldn't tell THEM that!!!

Yes, that is very true. That is why I keep logging on here though. Just to read and resolve any shaky thoughts. Its easier to read and relax about it than to let someone know how I felt. Plus that would mean calling or visiting someone and that is not something I think I would do.