Join the Army Against Alcohol - January '17

[mario]

Sorry had to leg it out there...

[JackieClaire]

Flying outta the door to work. Talk later?

[mario]

Enjoy your day Jackie.

[Mick]

hiya folks..howz the wureld today then? hope we are all good...and that includes you madam starty..keep it together starts..yep iut all feels like crappy doo at the moment,but as things sort themselves out one by one you will get better.try writing down all the things that are hacking you off..itsa lot easier if you can separate them..see if there are any with solutions ,positive spins that you can do?the other thing is why not keep a daily kind of diary how you feel,health work,and anything you have done which has either helped or hindered you?sometimes you can look at what you have written and see progression etc ..doesnt have to be a daily war n peace just a coupla paragraphs ..just suggestions..main thing is ..stay positive
well molls here we are ...another day for this wasting away 60 yr old ..orf to BnQ for some wood,some compost ..tile grout..not doing anythinfg with htem jist feel like buying them have a good one folks

[satz123]

ooohh I can hear Joe in me ear wishing he was as rich a retiree as yer pal -- 3 hour lunches indeed!!!! joking aside -- it is hard - and tbh I don't think anyone should retire before old age - it makes you old -- see it in loads of (mainly men) in their 60's who aged 10 years overnight on retirement..


The days are getting nicely longer here Mario -- much milder too -- loving the green shoots in the garden -

Agree totally on retirement - filling in time with 4 hours of golf or 3 hours of lunch or mindless clothes ( mostly me) shopping to me is bollox. We all need to be doing something useful & making a difference.
On one hand I have Mr Satz filling in the hours every day - on the other my mother is 87, fit ( if a bit mad) and still works in a Charity shop 2 mornings a week.

First daffodil ( the tiny ones ) out today :yay:

[satz123]

Starts - you have to think of yourself in this case. I KNOW how important the job is and you don'r want to let anyone down .... but YOUR health is now suffering.
The job I left was the same and i struggled on for 2 years before I just couldn't take it any more - I went sick for months because I thought I was going to crack up. I was so unhappy. The change in my demeanor when I didn't have to go to work and cover others for no thanks - was extraordinary - even my mother noticed.
Like Molls says - we are working to make the fat cats richer - and this was proved to me when I was out sick. None of the management cared - "just work from home" etc .... They contacted me to cover their arses in case I took a case against them. I'm NOT bitter - just something I know.
Your boss should not allow you to work with bronchitis if he really cared about your wellbeing Starts. They'd send you home.
They do not look at your long term health - just short term - kep the business running.
But eventually we are all dispensable ( and I don't mean that badly) - it's how business works.

Everything is worse because you are sick - you are sick because you won't rest.
Take some time off - ....... heal yourself - get a distance between you and the job. Watch how they cope ...

[tonyniceday]

Well yesterday was a funny old day...Monday is our day off so went and did shopping, walked the dogs, fixed a problem on the car and then fell asleep on the sofa around 3pm and woke around 8pm...had dinner and watched The Halcyon, fell asleep again and woke on the sofa at 3.15 am...went to bed and woke about 9.30 this morning....I never usually sleep like that and hadn't even taken one of the tabs the Doc gave me to help with the insomnia... still it got me through day 3 and am seeing the Psych again tomorrow... have a good Tuesday everyone and catch up again later... Tony

[satz123]

Hi Tony - sleep is the best medicine and your body is probably crying out for it.
Go with the flow is what I suggest.
When I was drinking my sleep was very erratic - but since being sober I sleep 8 hours a night. I get up early and I am genuinely tired at the end of the day and if I nap I LOVE it.
I could NEVER do that when I was drinking.

It takes a while but your body adjusts and you get a natural rhythm back ...... have a good day !

[starty]

Thanks guys you are all spot on. I have had a similar convo with someone today.
So, from today. Overtime stops. I am not going in at sparrow fart to keep the fat cats feeling fat. I am not worrying about expenditure on shit cars that they deal. I am focussing on what I can reasonably do in a day without busting my balls (yes lady squirrells do have balls)

I know it sounds like hot air, but I have to do it or I will break.

Thank you all for the smacked arse. I needed it

[abcowboy]

Hey starts, just keep reminding yourself of the old saying "tough times don't last, but tough people do"...

[Mick]

some interesting stuff on here about working /retiring etc,..I think in general one of the things is about how important jobs are ,and moreso,how much importance we place on ourselves within those jobs /careers call them what you may..Life and ther human race has been going on for a good few years now,despite the fact that we all think we have given greatly ..fact is few of us do unless you are in involved in the sciences exploration discovery etc..but too late in life we realise a how unimportant in the grand scheme of things our jobs are or indeed how we are within those roles. my particular case..army..it was going before I joined ..and has been since I left..there wasn't a massive breakdown anywhere that needed me to go back..same with the prison service..operationally I was well into the security corruption prevention and a lot of less publicized stuff..it was my bread and butter and I would never have left...but when my head fell off,Julie sort of made me re -look at it all,and I suddenly thought ..hang on I should be working to live not the other way around..believe me it was with trepidation ,fear angst etc that I left...it was crap for a few months ...but now we are happily divorced ..the prison service going its own way suffering no demise at my leaving and me doing my own thing worrying more about my rabbits and tomatoes than escapes,assaults etc..I think its when you get to the point where you realise actually I aint bombproof,I am replaceable,so hey Im going to enjoy life..some people are fortunate to combine the both .

Satzy dont necessarily agree with your point..Agree totally on retirement - filling in time with 4 hours of golf or 3 hours of lunch or mindless clothes ( mostly me) shopping to me is bollox. We all need to be doing something useful & making a difference.

I think its up to the individual..what is doing something useful?and for whom? likewise making a difference..to who and to what ..Ive subscribed to society,Ive worked since I left school paid my stamp taxes etc so unless I need to what would I or should I do anything thatI dont want to do, just because someone construes it as meaningful..?...but apart from that...bottom line Starty ...work to live not vice versa!

[NoraC]

Great talk here.
Been thinking about all the work stuff myself. I need to make some big decisions in that regard myself.
Hugs Starty.

[JackieClaire]

Evening.
Crikey lots of making some big changes here. Make sure you stick to your guns, Starty, love.
You can't get sacked for being ill and I know a good employment lawyer (its not Mr JC).

Well I took my list into my place and had a word with my boss...........going in earlier to do a proper handover...........like what's happened while I've not been there, who's left, who's pregnant (we have a May baby coming) , who's on holiday, who's out sick and who's covering for them.

I'm doing another day and will be getting more involved with the clients. I'm up at my old place working for the next couple of weeks. Getting trained in taking referrals, poking my head in some of the groups up there.

[Tabbers (a.k.a. KTAB)]

Evening folks, lots of discussion in the AAA today I see. Nothing more to add to what has already been said Starty.
Just to clarify regarding yesterday and the whole retirement thing, my friend doesn't ever do 3 hour lunches, I haven't seen him in ages so time just flew and be both didn't need to be anywhere.

Hi JC, xpost there. I am only popping in briefly, got food nearly ready.

[satz123]

Satzy dont necessarily agree with your point..Agree totally on retirement - filling in time with 4 hours of golf or 3 hours of lunch or mindless clothes ( mostly me) shopping to me is bollox. We all need to be doing something useful & making a difference.

I think its up to the individual..what is doing something useful?and for whom? likewise making a difference..to who and to what ..Ive subscribed to society,Ive worked since I left school paid my stamp taxes etc so unless I need to what would I or should I do anything thatI dont want to do, just because someone construes it as meaningful..?...but apart from that...bottom line Starty ...work to live not vice versa!

Let's agree to differ Mick - I've worked since I left school - even rearing 2 children I worked full time - but I refuse to believe I am a write-off at age 60. I will look for a job that will give some satisfaction at the end of the day.
I will live possibly 30 more years and I need an income ....