Join the Army Against Alcohol - October 2017

[IamMary]

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Missed you there satz.. yea, it is that simple.
Young fella ok ?

[mollyka]

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Morning Army - up a good while (not 5am nor nothing!!) so got the dinner made for later and waved young'un off for her scan - she's sad cos her fella can't go with her cos he's working down the country -- jeez I think I did all those things on my own...

[rustop59]

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Morning Army - up a good while (not 5am nor nothing!!) so got the dinner made for later and waved young'un off for her scan - she's sad cos her fella can't go with her cos he's working down the country -- jeez I think I did all those things on my own...

Morning all. So did I Molly and the later scans you could see sod all but technology has probably improved. It’s probably her hormones. One of the advantages of being up early is being super organized. I’ve just had lovely walk in the woods and now off to get hair done. The badger stripe is not very becoming 😉

[tonyniceday]

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Morning Army

Office day today - VAT and PAYE .... yawn...that's after fixing a hose on the washing machine and installing the drier.... still at least I'll be sober so it should get done quicker!

[Rusty]

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Good Morning, Army! 4:38 AM in Wisconsin. Rise and shine...I've been since 3:45 AM....ah, this is when I truly get work done.

Morning Army - up a good while (not 5am nor nothing!!)

Hahah Molly, you crack me up!

Hello to All.

[mollyka]

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evening and good night folks - I'm bollixed so prolly just going to bed - only in the door from work -- night night xx

[IamMary]

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Evening,

Good Morning, Army! 4:38 AM in Wisconsin. Rise and shine...I've been since 3:45 AM....ah, this is when I truly get work done.

Hahah Molly, you crack me up!

Hello to All.

Seriously Rusty, what time do you go o bed at? 3.45am.. its hardly worth the effort of getting into your jammy's!

I’ve just had lovely walk in the woods and now off to get hair done. The badger stripe is not very becoming ��

HAHA!! have you seen those new touch up sprays in boots?? they look fantastic..

Tony, hope you got all the boring stuff done.. much easier without the fuzz.

Scan go well Molls?

Night all.. and JC if you nip on late..

[RunningCourage]

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Morning troops -

I do that too Molly, but the strange thing is, the crisis situations, or anything close to it in the last 2 years, dont phase me.. Its the nothing days that a notion can come over me.. making the dinner on a sunday afternoon or watching telly and the hero is tucking into a glass of not ribena.
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I get this - tis the nothing does for me too. Or, as I mentioned a bit back, days with no responsibility or 'need' to show up looking my best. So, holidays are an excuse for (and for many I think) to let go and be liberal with one's libation. Suppose that's partly why I cam back cos I was concerned that my drinking over the summer hols was, at times, a little excessive - and certainly daily (apart from the odd day AF). And Mary, the smallest things were triggers - the idea, or image, of someone having a pint, the scene of someone on a fave TV prog relaxing/cooking/"coping" with a drink, and the good memories I have of times gone by in pubs with friends. Sometimes wonder whether the residue of those memories are both the real and imagined idea/experience I have of pubs (burning log fires, a place of warmth, where people go to share, to find out, to love, to laugh, to celebrate)... and my drinking a pint (usually ever is only one) is me kinda longing for those experiences again.

An early morning muse

[mollyka]

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Morning lads and lassies..
so you are able to limit yourself constantly to one pint Arsie? Have to say had I been like that (well -- one glass of wine!) I can't have ever imagined that I had a problem - I'm curious what affect it had on you that you perceive it problematic? I s'pose this is an addict speaking - but even your description of summer hols being a little excessive... I dunno - now mind you - there was a lady in treatment centre who drank a bottle of wine a day lots of days - and tbh almost all of us sort of went (in our heads) 'poo hoo - she's not an alkie' -- but according to the counsellors she was EVERY bit as much an alkie as the rest of us down and outs -- it badly affected her life and mental health -- so is that what you mean? I'm just curious so ignore me if I'm overstepping :-)

The scan went great - she was even able to see facial expressions on the wee ones' face -- so all is good - she's gone away for the weekend so a bit of peace !! ah she's lovely to have around and so excited --

now must go to work -- talk laters - is it bedtime yet Rusty ??

[satz123]

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Morning.
Mother still here while the bathroom is re-fitted :egad:
Young Satz still here while GF tries to get some space ........ not sure what's going to happen there?

I long for the peace & quiet I had before all this

Mary - yes I got my DNA tested. I'm 90% Irish ( Northern Ireland ) : 4% Greek : the rest is Scottish ...............

(burning log fires, a place of warmth, where people go to share, to find out, to love, to laugh, to celebrate)... and my drinking a pint (usually ever is only one) is me kinda longing for those experiences again.

Arsie - all of those things can be enjoyed without alcohol. I do it all the time - pubs - holidays. I just remove myself when they all start talking shite & getting messy & maudlin ....
But the cozy fire is the same : the sun is the same : and for a short while the company is good. It's the same - but the 'experience' lasts for a shorter time.

[JackieClaire]

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Morning, lovelies.
Would you believe I just ran out of words. Spent the last few days navel gazing.

[MENTION=18049]RunningCourage[/MENTION]...........I maybe being a bit blunt here but are you saying that you're still after being a moderate drinker all year round not just during term times...........like Molls said I always thought an alkie was a morning drinker, a black out drinker, a hiding drinker, a making excuses drinker but what I have learnt over the years its not how much but why and when.

I'm quoting this as well, Satz.

(burning log fires, a place of warmth, where people go to share, to find out, to love, to laugh, to celebrate)... and my drinking a pint (usually ever is only one) is me kinda longing for those experiences again.

Me and the long suffering Mr JC went out for a meal last night in a country pub miles from anywhere...........lovely. Big fire, cosy settees........only problem they put a mountain of ice in my drink and I don't like ice. Like Satz says same experience but not as long.

You know I don't long for those experiences........I had them, some of them were a hoot and many ended in tears.........I'll not forget either but I can never repeat them............I'm making new experiences now at an age that used to be the time for slowing down. The love and laughter has returned to my life.

[Rusty]

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Good Morning, Army!

I slept in..until 5:00 AM. Hahahah!
[MENTION=22411]IamMary[/MENTION]: To answer your question, I go to bed about 10:30 PM...I know 5 hrs. isn't a lot of sleep, but tbh, if I allow myself to sleep in until 7:00 AM, on weekends, I wake up in a panic because I feel I am already 3 hrs. behind in my day. ;-)

Molly-wonderful that your daughter could see pictures of the baby....does she know if it's a boy or a girl, or doesn't she want to know?

Today is a day of significance and sadness for me, and also one of victory, I suppose. It was 9 years ago today that my family staged a surprise intervention and told me they thought I should go t o rehab. In fact, my sister called a place that would have a bed ready for me in two days. It was one of the WORST and TERRIFYING days of my life. My drinking had become unmanageable, but I refused to go to rehab. I chose MWO and an addiction therapist instead. My family disagreed with me but I was out to prove them wrong. I know several people here, including Molly, had favorable experiences in rehab, but I was stubborn. After many stops and starts, I have been sober a good while (I won't reveal my AF date...I am afraid I might jinx myself ;-) ) and my life is SO much better. My relationships with my siblings are stronger than ever, my business is doing well, and I have a lovely group of friends in my community.
[MENTION=18049]RunningCourage[/MENTION], I know we don't "know" each other so maybe I have no business butting in here and offering my two pence, but I thought my therapist's advice might help you. . On my first visit, I told her I didn't want to stop drinking. One reason was that having wine with my mom was one of our favorite things to do together. I cried, "how can I give that up???? You're taking away my happiness!!!" I really did like the taste of Chardonnay, and when I visited my mom, we would have 1 glass together (maybe 2 at the most) and those were times I cherished and didn't want to give up. My therapist told me, "it's not what it's in the glass, it's the company you're with that makes that memory special." She really was right. My mum lives in a beautiful condominium overlooking a lovely lake and she has a huge fireplace and big comfy sofas and chairs. The scene you describe in the pub matches the description of her home. Maybe you, like I, felt I had earned that wine with my mom at the end of a long week. I USED to think that....for a LONG time, then something switched. A little while after that session, I had hired a personal trainer who was determined to help me lose weight. A kind and gentle man, I did not know he had been in recovery from AL for a decade. When I told him I liked wine/vodka after work because I "deserved" it, he said, "no, you deserve to be healthy." Just sayin. ;-)

Helllooooo to everyone else. I have some work to do before I get a good work out in, so wishing us all a happy and sober Friday!

[RunningCourage]

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its not how much but why and when.

totally agree.

thanks for the thoughts troops. good to hear them, and i agree with you JC and Dr Satz and Molls and Mary - it's not what's in the glass, but the company we keep that makes a time special.

away to muse some more. have a lovely evening folks

[IamMary]

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Evening all..
Yes interesting.
I wasn't a morning drinker either and 'controlled' my drinking enough during the week to look like I was coping perfectly.. but I wasn't. Drink consumed me. If I wasn't having it on the sly, I was gritting my teeth until I'd allow myself to have one. So many head games.. don't drink until just before bed, then have a quick enormous glass. Have a few drinks early, then bed early. Have a casual normal glass and a mug of wine somewhere else.. weekends had no rules, Mondays were shit. So, I wasn't drinking alcoholicly every night, but I was drinking every night and it was not a 'normal'.

[IamMary]

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Clicked send too quickly there - battery about to die..
Delighted scan went well Molls...

With you all on the 'experience' . Think Im more comfortable at last now and properly enjoying moments.. [MENTION=9094]satz123[/MENTION] you house is madder than mine :nutso: (you'll appreciate it more when you have your house back)