Join the Army Against Alcohol-January 2018

[RunningCourage]

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TFI Friday troops!

[MENTION=9094]satz123[/MENTION], ahh pet. Think you're right about the gut feeling. He's pushing the boundaries and he's knocked a fecking big hole in them.....for your own sobriety and health take several large steps back. When he's in the madness of alcohol there's no talking to him.

[MENTION=18049]RunningCourage[/MENTION]..........I'm wondering if your mum was trying to open a conversation and waiting for your response.

Had a bit of a funny turn earlier...........the pain in my left ear and jaw was was horrible :sad: If it happens again its off to see the GP.

Think you're right about her trying to open a conversation... and perhaps much of the time it is not quite knowing "how" to do that, for fear of either being misunderstood, attacked (not physically!) or hurting a loved one.

Hmmm... hope that pain in yer ear/jaw doesn't come back. Sounds not very nice at all.
[MENTION=9094]satz123[/MENTION], how you doing today?

So... Day 6 beckons. And arrives the next wee hurdle - no teaching tomorrow, and though I have a long training run in the morning, normally I'd allow myself a couple of beers it being the end of the week. Yes, just a couple, but sometimes it was a little more. But...

there will be none tonight. I will go without so I can wake up with a clear running head and neither a belly or mind that is even the slightest bit fuggled.

Have a good day folks -

[mollyka]

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Nice one arsey you sound strong - hope Tony is doing well? Hi seeker - my drinking hadn't descended too deeply while my mum was alive but she I'm sure was aware that I was a heavier than normal drinker....
I'm reluctant to comment on young satz benjy but believe you me i sympathise - my reluctance comes from the total unpredictability of the alcoholic hence trying to make sense of how to treat him virtually impossible - but personally two things I wouldn't do is enable ( money -blind eye etc) or try to cure him - throwing time and money at rehab or intervention of any kind unless it's his own idea and money - well you would be pissing in the wind - imvvho - generally the most successful young people in rehab were the ones who had to borrow the 8k themselves - focussed the mind when a drink afterwards seemed like a good idea and then they looked at their bank accounts

[Tabbers (a.k.a. KTAB)]

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Morning folks, quick fly by on my way out the door.
Well done on the interview Tony.
It must be neigh on impossible to take a step back Benji but if and when he stops to see the relationships that are damaged/on hold, his job that is gone and the money for drink runs out that the pity party finally kicks in, a moment of clarity may just shine through the crack long enough that realisation dawns. Not everyone needs to hit the absolute rock bottom but some do. I truly believe the strength is within all of us to stop the madness, our survival instincts are strong, just buried very deeply in some people.

[satz123]

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Morning Army brats + visitors ( NS, Cowboy, Mr G, Seeker and anyone I've missed)

I want to thank you all for your support & advice - as I go through my crisis and be all ME,ME,ME.
What a wonderful bunch of people you are. I had forgotten the immense amount of support that is here. :heart:

[mollyka]

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Evening.. the whole point of this site is to support the saddest and/or most worried anxious person... - when we are sailing along it's good for us to help others.. so... bring it on Benjy - or anyone else who needs to unload - don't forget if any of us don't feel like engaging or feel UP to engaging or discussing - we don't have to ... so yeah - that's it really

[JackieClaire]

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Evening,
Went to see my pharmacist like they tell you to do on the TV and she reckoned its one of my ears is blocked and I've got some olive oil drops. Still feel off and yak, I'll give it the weekend and orff to the doctors.

[MENTION=23019]tonyniceday[/MENTION].............hope you get the job, we'll have our next meet up there

[RunningCourage]

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Evening folks - agree with Molls 110%. Was gonna say I do like Dr Satz being all me me me (you make me larf, doc) (shoulda been a clown doctor) (maybe i'll start calling you Patch), but just wish it wasn't cos you're going through such a rough time with the young satz. Off load! I mean, jeez, the amount of advice, support etc you gave me in the past is immeasurable.

Chilling with crisps, juice and ... yup, netflix. Oh but it's cosy. Day 6 almost done. I mind I did 6 days on the first week of term back in August... but 7 days? Been a while. Me folks phoned this evening and I had that pang of "gawd, can i bothered with going to theirs and NOT having a few drinks?" Cue the wrong kind of thoughts if I'm wanting my Dry January to work...

JC - don't mean to tease cos sore ears is one of the worst things but at first i thought you wrote the pharmacist said one of your ears was blocked with olive oil... and I was like, what does sobriety do to one's cooking skills?

Hope everyone else doing well. Back to the box...(TV not vino)

[tonyniceday]

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Evening,
Went to see my pharmacist like they tell you to do on the TV and she reckoned its one of my ears is blocked and I've got some olive oil drops. Still feel off and yak, I'll give it the weekend and orff to the doctors.

[MENTION=23019]tonyniceday[/MENTION].............hope you get the job, we'll have our next meet up there

Hope the ear's calming down!

Interview went well....you can always tell because if they don't like you the interview tends to be around 30 mins and finishes with "Thanks for coming in today, we'll be in touch".....my interview lasted over an hour and concluded with a "show round" of the hotel....a very good sign... waiting for an email to see the General Manager next week....in the mean time I have another interview at another hotel on Monday... and have been called for an initial chat by a 3rd hotel.....

[mollyka]

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Sorry bout the ears Jacks.. get to a doctor I'd say.. pharmacists can be a bit too know-it-all I think.. bit like we had a man collapsed in the library recently - heart attack and while waiting for an ambulance a girl rushed in - knocked us all away and we thought she must be a doc or something she was so self-important -- turned out she was a 2nd year student nurse... they can be wanabee docs (that's what my Dad always said anyway and he was a pharmacist himself!!!)sometimes!!

Evening folks - agree with Molls 110%. Was gonna say I do like Dr Satz being all me me me (you make me larf, doc) (shoulda been a clown doctor) (maybe i'll start calling you Patch), but just wish it wasn't cos you're going through such a rough time with the young satz. Off load! I mean, jeez, the amount of advice, support etc you gave me in the past is immeasurable.

Chilling with crisps, juice and ... yup, netflix. Oh but it's cosy. Day 6 almost done. I mind I did 6 days on the first week of term back in August... but 7 days? Been a while. Me folks phoned this evening and I had that pang of "gawd, can i bothered with going to theirs and NOT having a few drinks?" Cue the wrong kind of thoughts if I'm wanting my Dry January to work...

JC - don't mean to tease cos sore ears is one of the worst things but at first i thought you wrote the pharmacist said one of your ears was blocked with olive oil... and I was like, what does sobriety do to one's cooking skills?

Hope everyone else doing well. Back to the box...(TV not vino)

Probably said this before Arsey - just ignore if I did but many moons ago when I was trying to get sober - I was quite content most of the time not to drink tbh - but I used to lunch with my mum a couple of times a week and I just couldn't imagine at that time having those lunches without our customary bottle of wine.. I loved her dearly but she could push my buttons a bit so without the slight numbing lunch just wouldn't have been a treat - in fact a bit of a chore... and afterwards when I learnt that I should and MUST avoid 'people places and things' that would be a trigger (well obviously not avoid my mum - just avoid going for lunch) in hindsight I realised how easily I gave in to that so called near 'impossibility' -- like the 'oh I can't sleep without some wine' --- same argument.... like - who's gonna stay awake forever more...? ya know? Maybe if you're going to see your folks get a different routine going - go down early and bring them to a nice café for breakfast maybe? Or to a garden centre for a wander and a coffee shop? Just mix it up .....??

[rustop59]

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Good night all. Busy day so exhausted. Sorry about the ear JC. Vent away Satz, that’s what we are here for. Well done Tony, amazing the difference a week makes. What’s the social occasion you have coming up Mary (if I’m not being too nosy)? What excuse do you normally give or do you bother giving any? Nite everyone.

[IamMary]

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Hello hello, very late check in.
Delighted the interview went well Tony, sounds like you'll be snapped up very quickly. No chance you can get a job somewhere without booze? hardly, comes with the territory.

Satz, Thinking about you. Tabbers is right about the rock bottom, we've all made this decision when we were at some level desperate/determined... Your son is young, makes it more difficult when its the world of friends and colleagues (then you find the sofa and realise that you dont even need to go out)..

Good night all. Busy day so exhausted. Sorry about the ear JC. Vent away Satz, thatÂ’s what we are here for. Well done Tony, amazing the difference a week makes. WhatÂ’s the social occasion you have coming up Mary (if IÂ’m not being too nosy)? What excuse do you normally give or do you bother giving any? Nite everyone.

Not nosy at all Rustop! Posh restaurant for big birthday, but the families will be knocking it back. The next one, got pushed out a bit, is a work reunion thing, shots and cocktails - I skipped the last few and Im in a corner for this one. sigh..
I dont really explain, Im vague, shrug, if Im pushed I'll say I hadnt intended giving up for so long, but I love it! I know it looks like Im giving myself a backdoor in, but its more about not wanting to bare my soul to a table of drunk women!

Good on you Arsey! Whats planned for tomorrow?

You feeling ok again [MENTION=7008]JackieClaire[/MENTION]?

[tonyniceday]

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Hello hello, very late check in.
Delighted the interview went well Tony, sounds like you'll be snapped up very quickly. No chance you can get a job somewhere without booze? hardly, comes with the territory.

Mary, you may remember that Mrs T & I own a restaurant...she is now runniing that.... hospitality is my trade. The hotel where I had the interview on Thursday is part of a large chain...I would have little to do with the bar and I was told at the interview that staff are not permitted to drink there... on or off duty, which is common amongst big hotel chains.

The restaurant was a different kettle of fish entirely... my wife and I owned the alcohol on the premises...at any given time the retail value of the stock exceded £10,000 !!!

As I mentioned I have made (enforced) dramatic chnges in my life and am living in a tee total environment,,,

The friend I'm staying with used to be in a long term relationship with an alcoholic and cannot stand the smell of it! All in all I am in the best situation I have ever been to maintain my quit...as I write this, I've still got the insomnia so its just after 4 am which means I am in to day 7....

[RunningCourage]

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Morning,

Welcome to day 7 [MENTION=23019]tonyniceday[/MENTION] - I think my drinking habit began to cement itself when i worked in hospitality and theatre simultaneously - i.e. a barman at a theatre bar (theatre being my background originally, tho now teach). I loved working there - one of the best jobs - and that was mostly to do with the staff, the punters, the fact it was a great wee theatre that i liked... I'd happily have worked there every day - and often did. But looking back I also see how it was laced with beer. I even wrote about it then, about how much i loved the halcyon glow of inebriation and how beer was there whatever the occasion. Yet I was young (23) naive and blind to the future of what such a habit could turn into. Indeed, I probably thought drinking as I did was normal, that others did it, that "my type" did it and that even if i thought i was drinking too much i think i was trying to make myself believe a) I was young and could handle it (the invincibility of youth?!) and b) that as, i say, others drank like I did.

But both thoughts were / are misguided. Folks may have drunk lots with me when out together... But did folks go home and continue with another beer? Wine? Although my drinking cut down quite a lot - particularly since coming to MWO originally 5 years back, the type of thinking around drink didn't so much (though I think it has changed, or did change, though 2013/14 (dry most of 2013, and 2014 didn't drink regularly)).

Cripes what a splurge of thought and it's not even 6.30am...

Coffee before preparing for a long run - 16 miles is the aim. I was lucky to get an entry into this year's London Marathon in April (not a huge fan of road running, much prefer trails and hills, but an entry to London not to be sniffed at as I'd never voluntarily try to enter it) [MENTION=5052]anon[/MENTION] are you doing London this year?! If so would be great to see you!

Molls - thanks for your thoughts re yer ma. Yes, i think i mind you mentioning that before - but really good to read again. Changing routine is something I find hard (i hate to admit!)... but with my folks, I live a couple of hours from them, so it's easiest to go up and stay over - thus, going for dinner. They would never be disappointed that I would not share a drink at dinner (me ma might be the contrary...), it is of course me that has these thoughts. They're looking forward to seeing me. I'm looking forward to: pint in pub, large whisky, wine with dinner, couple of beers. So i need to change the stinking thinking. I was doing this in 2013, I need to try and do it again.

Right ho - have a braw Saturday all. [MENTION=9094]satz123[/MENTION] hope the weekend will find you time to take a breather from the stress of young satz.

Will pop in later -

[satz123]

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Morning - off to work - which is the best place for me today. Helping those who take the help offered.
Mr D'Arsey & Toe Knee - well done inkele:

Young Satz arrived home last night - I told him to go to bed.
I've told Mr Satz to deal CALMLY with it today.

If he is very bad to find a doc or if that's not possible on Saturday to taper off with bottles of beer. Maybe not the best advice but he's been drunk for 7 days & I'd rather he have beer here than head out to get a cure.

Later gaters :llama:

[JackieClaire]

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In sick bay.............pain in ear now moved to throat and nose. Feel like I've been trampled by a cart horse.
Normal service will be resumed as soon as my head doesn't feel heavier than my body.