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    Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

    Not to be outdone by the Steppers

    Happy Birthday [MENTION=1214]Rusty[/MENTION]

    Hope your having a great day!! You do share the day with one of my kids (and possibly Mrs JC in law!) :grouphugs:
    Last edited by IamMary; February 10, 2018, 06:24 PM.
    AF - July 19th 2015 :happy2:

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      Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

      Morning all!
      Wow so much to catch up on. Thoughts are with you Satz, it must be so hard to witness. I hope the librium helps to get him over the hump of initial withdrawals. My al withdrawals were only ever awful the first time with shakes etc. The pill wds have been horrific and the last time worst of all. Death was preferable. So I really do sympathise. Unfortunately the only way as we all know is having a determination and the mindset to succeed along with putting up with the discomfort. I do hope the lad can find that within himself.

      Day 41 for me. Noticing the rollercoaster emotions a bit and acknowledging that they come and go which is huge cos they do go. Accepting that there is always going to be dodgy emotions to deal with and allowing them to pass in their own time. Simple but not easy but empowering to work through them. This is what "normal" folks go through and we addicts find so difficult to deal with.

      Went to a funeral this week and Mr S spoke at it. A lovely tribute that had that all his work colleagues patting him on the back and offering congrats. It was hugely emotional and I was incredibly proud of him. No alcohol was had and we left before the wake which was great.

      Today is a day of essay writing and chilling. Hope you all have a good one

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        Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

        Morning Starty and all to come. The thread is incredibly busy these days and I honestly have little to say or add, just that hangover free Sunday mornings, in particular, are something I don't think I will ever tire of.
        Planning some building work in the garden today but it is only going to reach a high of 3 degrees with quite a chill wind blowing so it may be a brief time there outside. Trying to get a couple of projects finished before spring arrives and all the planting, weeding and tidying up starts in earnest.
        Ethanol is a toxic chemical, why would I drink it?

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          Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

          Morning -- good to see you Starty and Tabs - loads of times I've absolutely nothing to say (bit like today really) therefore love a 'topic' - so anyone wanna start one up?? Lovely sunny morning here but crikey it is cold - Weird waking up to an empty house - no need to be nice even
          Contentedly sober since 27/12/2011
          contentedly NF since 8/04/14

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            Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

            Hello Molly dear, snow has stopped my play in the garden brrrrr.

            I get daily quotes to my phone, I like this mornings:
            'Be happy for this moment, this moment is your life'
            Omar Khayyam

            Simples as the critter on the tv says.
            Ethanol is a toxic chemical, why would I drink it?

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              Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

              Originally posted by Tabbers (a.k.a. KTAB) View Post
              Hello Molly dear, snow has stopped my play in the garden brrrrr.

              I get daily quotes to my phone, I like this mornings:
              'Be happy for this moment, this moment is your life'
              Omar Khayyam

              Simples as the critter on the tv says.
              would LOVE to be able to live by that -- only thing that can stop me angsting over what's on the horizon is sticking headphones on my head at night in bed and listening to audio-books -- absolutely STOPS thought -- only thing that does it these days - used to do a bit of meditation but that's drifted away - in my arrogance I s'pose I think I don't need these things - don't consciously think that but I guess that's the truth of it... now maybe........???
              Gardening today?? Just NO -- sit down and watch Scotland V France - :happy2:
              Contentedly sober since 27/12/2011
              contentedly NF since 8/04/14

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                Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                Yoga & meditation Molly, tis the answer for me, love it. Actually I wouldn't exaggerate by saying for me it has been life changing and a huge part in my getting sober.
                I practice a couple of short sessions a week by myself but take a class once a week of of 1 1/2 hours. While doing the class I am only focused on the very moment and what I am doing. The noise stops completely because I get so engrossed it is like a break from the world.
                I can't recommend it highly enough, for it is the very polar opposite of my not being present by being pissed.
                Ethanol is a toxic chemical, why would I drink it?

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                  Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                  Originally posted by Tabbers (a.k.a. KTAB) View Post
                  Yoga & meditation Molly, tis the answer for me, love it. Actually I wouldn't exaggerate by saying for me it has been life changing and a huge part in my getting sober.
                  I practice a couple of short sessions a week by myself but take a class once a week of of 1 1/2 hours. While doing the class I am only focused on the very moment and what I am doing. The noise stops completely because I get so engrossed it is like a break from the world.
                  I can't recommend it highly enough, for it is the very polar opposite of my not being present by being pissed.
                  Fair dues to you! I tell myself I'm 'too busy' to take on anything else. .... and tbh at the moment it feels true - it's been manic round here for the last 6 months - houseful and work and just generally jaded all the time - but that's not an excuse I should be using - can't see myself going back to yoga - I tried it a bit and wasn't keen - just didn't 'get it' - but I did love the meditation for sure..
                  Now himself has decided we've to go to Ardgillen to look at snowdrops - so comfy just sitting here procrastinating - I did mention that there's literally hundreds of snowdrops outside the winda - but he wasn't impressed ;-) back laters xx
                  Contentedly sober since 27/12/2011
                  contentedly NF since 8/04/14

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                    Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                    Morning troops

                    [MENTION=9094]satz123[/MENTION] I don't recall exactly what the Doc used to give me...the last time I took something to help withdrawal it interacted with something my shrink had given me and I came out in hives...back to Doc 2 hours later and an antihistamine jab in the bum sorted that... I haven't taken anything for withdrawal since then!

                    As said, the REALLY good thing is that he went to the Docs so at least a quit is there on his mind... definitely a step in the right direction.

                    Got in from work at 3am ... back in at 1pm today....not sure I'm liking this new job...but hey it IS a job and once I've moved into new house (next week hopefully) I can concentrate on getting the right job...

                    Have a great Sunday all...
                    Last edited by tonyniceday; February 11, 2018, 05:05 AM.

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                      Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                      Hi Tabbers, Tony and Molls.
                      Heres a topic for ya

                      Why do we keep on repeating our behaviours in relation to addiction and going back to the same situations that got us in a mess?
                      Is it situations we are in?
                      Thoughts about those situations
                      Glamorising using or drinking?
                      Taking the easy (at the time) way out?
                      Dislike of our lives in general?
                      Stress
                      Boredom
                      Or trying to be happier than we are?

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                        Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                        Morning,
                        Tony, its a bugger the hospitality industry.........I couldn't keep up with Jenny's schedule.....same as you finish at 3am in at 1pm. Luckily the headmaster at the interview she had used to manage a string of pubs.........and told her if she could cope with bar management......... teaching will be a bit easier and a damned sight more rewarding.

                        Stayed up to watch the snowboarding........bed at 3am. Wasn't half exciting and couldn't help thinking they're all lunatics.

                        Ahh, Molls............we've got a few snowdrops at the top of the drive............you and Joe could have popped over and had a look see and we do free tea and coffee.
                        It could be worse, I could be filing.
                        AF since 7/7/2009

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                          Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                          Cross post Starty. Will have a think and be bacinabit.
                          It could be worse, I could be filing.
                          AF since 7/7/2009

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                            Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                            I think the simple answer is in the question.... "addiction"... also the wrongly supposed "safety blanket" of knowing those places and situations rather than the fear of moving forward into the unknown...even though we know the inevitable outcome...

                            That's a bit deep for a Sunday morning!!

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                                Well yes I agree with Tony - it's the essence of addiction - when we realise it's more than a word - it incorporates so many things - euphoric recall was a very large part of my constant returning to something that had died a LONG time previously - the great craic hadn't been there since years previously but that was forgotten - the minimizing is an enormous element - that's my fear when I hear anyone say 'I wasn't that bad' or 'I wasn't as bad as' or even 'I hadn't reached my rock bottom' -- what constitutes a 'rock bottom'? When I was a proud confident 20 year old with the world at my feet - if someone had told me that 30 years later I'd have had a bottle of wine hidden in a cabinet for a crafty extra glass... well when I was 20 that would have sounded like as rock bottom as I would ever have gotten... so yeah - minimizing for sure

                                And for some reason as addicts we think we will 'handle' it better the next time..... we really believe that - and until we don't believe that anymore - we will never get sober

                                and all the others you mention Starty Stress boredom - the promise of instant gratification - and not denying that that can happen - but looking at the long picture properly - those instants of instant gratification.... can they be worth it.?... until the answer is truly genuinely emphatically NO --- we won't get there in the long run

                                There's a lot of work to be done in understanding this shagging addiction thing!!!

                                Still haven't got to the snowdrops - Simon is dropping in with the kids
                                back in a bit xx
                                Last edited by mollyka; February 11, 2018, 08:39 AM.
                                Contentedly sober since 27/12/2011
                                contentedly NF since 8/04/14

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