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    Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

    Quick a quickie..
    Well done on the Marathon RC! was a cracking day here too..
    And Mr [MENTION=7261]Guitarista[/MENTION], Im sorry its Monday there already but congratulations!! 180 is extremely solid. :yay:

    Molly, what ever else I get away with throwing out belonging to the kids, teddies are off limits! Mr M had to build an enormous box to house them. Like Ruffi, I expect they will live longer than me.

    Night all..
    Last edited by IamMary; February 25, 2018, 05:22 PM.
    AF - July 19th 2015 :happy2:

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      Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

      Had to go and watch Homeland ..........

      Never too late for cake Mr G........well done, pet.



      And a well done to Dr Arsey.........51k.........I don't think I go that far for a holiday
      It could be worse, I could be filing.
      AF since 7/7/2009

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        Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

        Mollyka and Jackie, you have both been there being serious, and I appreciate it. The humor is just a bonus. It's been nice to feel some humor. I'm not feeling all great, but the ten days absent of alcohol are clearing out some of the fog. Part of me didn't want it to clear because I didn't want anymore pain popping out of that box I've tried to keep it hauled up in. Both of my quits this year were not really wanted. I knew I needed to as I was feeling very ill, scary ill. I, also, couldn't keep up with things. I was tired all the time with each day getting worst than the last. So, these quits came off of the heels of the scare more or less. Today, however, I'm gaining the desire to 'want' to quit and stay quit. It can get mixed here and there, but my daily personal time in my notebook and reading the boards is helping to shift it more into the no more category and with real desire vs. just a need to do it. I put this toward not feeling as sickly and some clarity of mind. It remains to be seen how much better I will feel.

        I need some time to think about the topic of each quit gets harder and why. We learn from each quit as well or we should. My notebook has a lot of pothole notes within its pages. I am building on it and using it to succeed. It gets harder to quit can apply for a long time and then something can happen that changes it to a real wake up call. Therein lies a good lesson. Why wait until it get's to that point or take it that far? Maybe that's why it gets harder. We feel like we've already messed up so bad and crashed our health, why stop? There is more hopelessness or powerlessness in our psyche. That is until the real effects of long term use come home to roost. "We first make our habits and then our habits make us." The longer that habit has its claws in us or we use the crutch, the harder it is not to depend on it. Each time we reach for it again, just gives it more strength. To truly opine outside of my rambled thoughts, I need more AF time and some solid personal experience from this point moving on. I'm fresh into this quit for different reasons and this quit is solely for me instead of someone else's benefit.

        Sleep well all!
        Last edited by Crusader; February 25, 2018, 09:19 PM.
        The Drunkards Progress. From the first glass to the grave...

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          Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

          Good morning all!

          Lovely to see the army so busy and all seem to be doing well. Sorry to hear you were poorly tabs and your job news. You will find something else. Employing good reliable people is hard and I would much rather have someone with more experience and a proven track record than some lazy gobshite who feels the world owes them a living.

          8 weeks or 56 days for me so am delighted about that. Went to a party on Sat as well which was fine. Enjoyed getting all dressed up and then leaving when I had had enough which was interestingly enough later than Mr S who had had a few beers! Anyway, feeling good about my quit and not missing it at all.

          Have a great week all x

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            Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

            It could be worse, I could be filing.
            AF since 7/7/2009

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              Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

              Morning, fantastic ,Starty............:applouse:

              Stayed up 'til yon time watching Point Break.......one of my all time faves.........now I've mastered granny squares think I might have a go at surfing.

              [MENTION=24140]Crusader[/MENTION]........I too wanted and needed this quit beyond anything else.........I was scared and excited all at the same time.

              We're suppose to be getting a load of snow this week, just saw a few teeny tiny flakes.......time to get the wellies out.
              It could be worse, I could be filing.
              AF since 7/7/2009

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                Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                Morning Army....or whatever time it is in your neck of the woods!

                @Tabbers Don't be discouraged about finding a job despite being "over 50" I was laid off from a large company, along with about 100 other people. At the time I was in my mid 50's and was terrified about starting out again at my age. I had many interviews, but the same thing kept happening over and over again. When the person interviewing me first saw me, the answer was written all over their face. She's too old for the job...it was so demeaning. We would go through the motions of interviewing because we had to, but we both knew that I wasn't going to get the job. This went on for several months, and I was really getting down. One day I responded to an add in the paper which was totally outside the box as far as my experiences went. I thought "what the hell" and sent in a resume. They loved me at the interview, and it turns out that I was just the kind of person that they were looking for to fill the position. They actually saw the value that an older person can bring to the job. I was told that most of us "old folks" have a much better work ethic than many of the younger people out there today. My boss is one of the best that I have ever had, and I absolutely Love my job! Sometimes I can't believe that I'm getting paid to do this kind of work! The company that I work for currently needs to fill a couple of positions, and recently interviewed 9 people for the job. (all of them youngish) My boss confided in me that not one of them had any work ethic at all.....just wanted to know what was in it for them. :exclaim:

                I know that this is rather a cliché, but "when one door closes, another one opens." I wish you much luck in finding the right door for you.
                Last edited by Jude58; February 26, 2018, 05:59 AM.

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                  Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                  Originally posted by mollyka View Post
                  Morning Rusters! - funny - you put a thought in my mind there - NEVER thought I could do a sober holiday - seemed unconquerable - until I did it... the ones I did BEFORE learning shit in treatment were a little bit sort of self conscious and meh.... but ok.... BUT -- the change up came when I did the balance sheet - examine the drinking EXACTLY as it is/was on holiday - not just the great craic of the first couple of scoops -- think the dry mouth hangover - the dragging out of bed - the missed things to do because - well frankly - I couldn't be arsed - the waiting - omg that WAITING for lunchtime - because on holidays we can ALL drink at lunchtime -- right?? (since getting sober I RARELY see anyone drinking at lunchtime on holidays) having that one glass with Joe - and then..... shit - that's ALL he wants.... no good to me.... what to do -- risk his cranky look when I want the second -- mm ---- then - then waiting for the next legit drink - OR - secreting that bottle in my suitcase and having a few surreptitious slurps during the afternoon -- night time arrives - he's all gung-ho to go start a good night out -- I'm frankly bollixed -- not drunk -- not in anyway under the weather -- except I'm so shagging tired... would love to throw my feet up on the bed and drink lots of wine and watch tele.... now THAT was never going to happen -- pissed by 10pm and he's only revving up......................................... why would I want to do that? My drinking was NOT normal

                  no --- never again - just couldn't imagine going back to that.. for anything -- insert yer own HONEST drinking pattern on hols... see how it pans out..??
                  You have just described my last 2 holidays in Australia & Greece. YUK !!
                  I look back now not with fondness but with a sick feeling.
                  Toe knee I know how daunting it feels but it's a long way off - and get in the mindset now of going sober - then re-access later on. As Molls says if you decide now to drink - that will be it.
                  So repeat after me :
                  THIS WILL BE MY FIRST SOBER HOLIDAY in eons inkele:
                  Last edited by satz123; February 26, 2018, 08:34 AM.

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                    Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                    And Tabberooney - I am ahead of you by a few years and was able to get a job.
                    Not in what I was used to - but deffo what I wanted to do.

                    Money is shite - but I'll get the experience needed & intend then to look for a raise or try somewhere else. Don't be disheartened - you are VERY employable.......:hug:

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                      Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                      Snow has arrived - I'm off to look after me old(er) dears :horse:

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                        Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                        Good Morning All!

                        I woke into day 11 on this Monday morning. I slept better last night as I stopped trying to change my sleeping aids. It's too soon for that goal. I started sleeping better without the alcohol in my system, but I became too ambitious trying to change my sleeping aids to natural ones. I'm a true insomniac, so the natural route may or may not work for me. It's too soon to put that pressure into my goals as that could become a stumbling block from sleep deprivation.

                        To that I'll add this quote I found reading my notebook this morning.

                        "Determine what specific goal you want to achieve. Then dedicate yourself to its attainment with unswerving singleness of purpose, the trenchant zeal of a crusader." (Paul J. Meyer)
                        The Drunkards Progress. From the first glass to the grave...

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                          Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                          Love the quotes Tom -- each of those (yesterday and today) were the sort of thing I learnt in treatment - that one
                          "Determine what specific goal you want to achieve. Then dedicate yourself to its attainment with unswerving singleness of purpose, the trenchant zeal of a crusader."well I found it hard to implement initially - it was like I was the perpetrator of chaos in the family and yet - I was to come out and look after #1 - - seemed incredibly selfish - which back then was a BAD word -- not now - it was that unswerving singleness of purpose that got me sober - and so far has kept me sober and I make no apologies for it..
                          Sleep is a bummer -- lifelong insomniac here too - still don't sleep great - but I try not to worry about it - I have my book, and my audiobook and my tablet (I know I know not a good idea -- ) all up beside me in the bed - and when I wake up - it's a little treat to read a chapter or listen to a book.. and since I calmed down about whether I sleep or not - it doesn't seem to matter so much

                          In fairness I do only need about 5 hours a night tho...
                          Contentedly sober since 27/12/2011
                          contentedly NF since 8/04/14

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                            Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                            Sorry -- rude --- howr'yiz??? No snow here yet but I believe it's on it's way.. LOVE snow
                            Contentedly sober since 27/12/2011
                            contentedly NF since 8/04/14

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                              Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                              Originally posted by mollyka View Post
                              Sorry -- rude --- howr'yiz??? No snow here yet but I believe it's on it's way.. LOVE snow
                              Hi everyone, need to have a read back. No snow here yet either. 2010 put me off it for life. Once I get home from work tomorrow going to bunker down for the duration. Nite all.

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                                Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                                Evening,
                                Gawd I used to get that look starting at the airport. Mr goody two shoes and 'I'll just have a coffee face'
                                One of my old pals from work has given me the top ten albums challenge on FB.........the penny just dropped that 9 out of the 10 of mine are from my misspent youth and very, very, loud.

                                Tom Crus, the sleep we get now is pure sleep. Might be short but refreshing.
                                It could be worse, I could be filing.
                                AF since 7/7/2009

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