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    Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

    I started to overthink this.....I'm going to try and keep it simple......it is the power of addiction............there's absolutely no rhyme or reason to it. Just as each of us have our own unique DNA (unless you're an identical twin or triplet).........we each have our own way of why, when and how our socialising turned to addiction. I work with a lad who's primary addiction was heroin and later alcohol when he couldn't score...........he calls alcoholism the lazy addiction (with his tongue firmly in his cheek) as we can just pop down the shop get a few bottles in and don't have to go crawling round back alleys in the middle of the night.

    I look back to mine and it was anxiety..........social and any other blessed thing I could get anxious about. It began before I started infant school...........it was the not knowing what of what will come. Fast forward to 14/15 getting a bit of pocket money............then its a cheap bottle of cider shared with a friend.........standing outside the off licence begging an adult to bring you a bottle out. I used to get awfully sick and swear off until the next time.

    I always drank to get drunk...........and I distinctly remember the first time I had a drink after a bit of a trauma. I'd been to an Aunt's and was driving the kids home and someone drove into me passenger side door......kids in the back.......the kids were fine and thought it was an adventure...........not a lot of damage........but the shock and anxiety and anger somehow got me home. We had some sherry in the house and a swigged some out of the bottle..........and all of a sudden the waves stopped............now this is where the addicition kicked in..............if one swig was good, then two would even better..........and by god by the end of the bottle I was feeling no pain at all...

    You know that's the first time I've realised that this kicked off long before my Dad died...........it escalated beyond being able to cope with drink and everyday living after but I'd always thought that's when I became an out and out alkie.............the seeds had been sown.

    There's prolly more but got to get ready for Ma-in-Law's party.
    It could be worse, I could be filing.
    AF since 7/7/2009

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      Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

      Afternoon troopers,,

      Been popping in to read - but just too tired to write! Went for a 2 hr run this morning and came back and could barely keep my eyes open. But, due to fact I needed to do a bit of work, I grabbed some gaffer tape, pulled my eyelids back, stuck em down and got an hour or so of work done. Enough to alleviate the guilt having promised myself I'd do something.

      Starts - interesting thoughts for discussion and enjoying reading the comments by everyone. Will add my own if I don't fall asleep again :haha:

      Right - off out, need some juice and something for dinner...

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        Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

        A two hour run -- I'd shagging DIE!!! and that's not just old age - I'd have always died!!! and funny enough I did play team sports - basketball, hockey - loved basketball and we won the All-Ireland schoolgirls league the year I finished school!! But running -- nah - we had a boundary at school - my memory was that it was a couple of miles and we had to 'run' it every morning before class - the running was laughable!!!

        Did I always drink to get drunk? I dunno - I think I probably did - certainly in latter years... drunk is a strong word - it implies staggering around and shouting and acting foolish - and because I had to protect my drinking career - as soon as drinking became any sort of an issue - I never manifested drunken behaviour - even in treatment my eldest son who came down for 'family day' - he said the only way he knew I'd been drinking when he visited was a sort of laziness around my eyes... BUT --- that's just splitting hairs.. did I always drink alcohol for the 'effect' -- in a word -- yes.. I don't ever ever ever remember choosing to drink something cos I thought it would taste nice - if it tasted nice that was a bonus - but at the end it was the cheapest wine cos I could get 2 for a tenner instead of 1 for a tenner...

        Does that differentiate us from non-drinkers I wonder? Over the years since I got sober I've had the odd discussion with members of my family -- none of whom manifest any signs towards addiction (Joe drank too much but could always control it) - but each and every one of them sort of said they drank for the effect - anyway - that's beside the point - I've too much time on my hands now to be thinking :welldone:

        Happy birthday Rusty -- missed that earlier - hope you have a great one - and saw Stirly over on the shout-out thread.. hope you're going to pop in here too??
        Hope the party went okay Jacks and good evening to all else
        Contentedly sober since 27/12/2011
        contentedly NF since 8/04/14

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          Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

          Evening. Was working all day.

          Young Satz left the house again today to go get the 'cure'.
          Waiting for the worst now - police to ring or something - because he is out of control when he drinks. Can't even talk ....
          He took all of the Librium in two days ....
          I had been suspecting drinking in the house but couldn't find anything.
          Lifted the mattress this evening and there were all the bottles ....
          I was morto showing Mr S as it's not that long since he found my bottles. I feel a hypocrite to be honest.

          Anyway can't see an end or solution to this...
          Last edited by satz123; February 11, 2018, 02:57 PM.

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            Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

            I won't post any more folks 'cos it's always bad news...... and I can't be jolly any more ...

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              Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

              Oh sweetheart I'm so sorry - why the hell would you think you have to be jolly??? Please don't cut yourself off from here - if anyone can understand your situation it's us lot - please just post - it'll be good for you- truly -
              He'll run out of money at least?
              Contentedly sober since 27/12/2011
              contentedly NF since 8/04/14

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                Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                Originally posted by satz123 View Post
                I won't post any more folks 'cos it's always bad news...... and I can't be jolly any more ...
                :hug::hug:Satz. You don’t need to be jolly. Please check in, we all care and just wish that there was more we could do. If it’s just being here for you so that you can get it off your chest please let us.Us former alkies probably understand better than most.

                Just got rid of all the visitors so just me and the doggies, bliss.

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                  Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                  [MENTION=9094]satz123[/MENTION] - please don't stop posting here. We all care - even us that don't post here often. My heart hurts for you and I do understand the mortification and the feeling of hypocrisy. Been there - believe me. :hug: Sending you positive thoughts and much love
                  "Only I can change my life. No one can do it for me.".....Carol Burnett
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                  AF - 7-27-15

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                    Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                    Originally posted by satz123 View Post
                    I won't post any more folks 'cos it's always bad news...... and I can't be jolly any more ...
                    You should say what you're thinking and feeling, Friend, and right now that can't be very happy or content :hug:. I can't imagine sharing anywhere else about my or my son's hidden bottles or other behaviors. Non-addicts probably wouldn't even believe it. Yet we're not at all shocked. Or horrified. It is just what a desperate addict does. And we don't think your son is a bad person, any more than we were moral failures. Addiction makes a person selfish, manipulative, illogical, and a little bit crazy. The real boy you love is still there, Satz. I hope he is ready to find himself again soon. Keep posting, please. xx, NS

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                      Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                      Originally posted by satz123 View Post
                      Evening. Was working all day.

                      Young Satz left the house again today to go get the 'cure'.
                      Waiting for the worst now - police to ring or something - because he is out of control when he drinks. Can't even talk ....
                      He took all of the Librium in two days ....
                      I had been suspecting drinking in the house but couldn't find anything.
                      Lifted the mattress this evening and there were all the bottles ....
                      I was morto showing Mr S as it's not that long since he found my bottles. I feel a hypocrite to be honest.

                      Anyway can't see an end or solution to this...
                      Originally posted by satz123 View Post
                      I won't post any more folks 'cos it's always bad news...... and I can't be jolly any more ...
                      Evening Army!!

                      Just taking a quick peek around the boards and saw this. Satzybum, IMVHO, the last thing you need to do is cut yourself off from the people who can truly understand what all of this is about. We may not have the answers as to how you should deal with your son, but we do know why he is doing what he's doing. And I know I may be out of turn since I don't post that often, but I always knew that MWO was the place that I could talk if I needed to and that the support is always here. We all have to protect our sobriety above all, and being here among your friends who understand is part of that. Don't distance yourself for the reason you gave - this isn't a place to be jolly - it's a forum to get and receive support no matter what is going on in our personal lives. You have friends here and that's what friends are for - to listen in times of trouble and stress, not just be here for the laughs. It goes without saying that every single member of the Army is concerned for you and what you are dealing with so come on back and get the support that you, personally, need and may not be able to find elsewhere. As I said, we may not be able to give you professional advice on how to deal with young Satz, but we addicts definitely know why he is doing what he's doing and everyone is here to listen. So get yerself back to the barracks where you belong.

                      Hello to everyone else!! I was over on the Sunday Shout Out thread earlier and was delighted to see how many are racking up the sober days. It really made my day!!

                      Edited to add - NS hit the nail on the head with that last comment - your son is still there, he just has to get himself out of the bottle and hopefully he will soon have the will to do that.
                      Last edited by stirly-girly; February 11, 2018, 03:51 PM.
                      For every 60 seconds that you are angry, you lose a minute of happiness.
                      AF since 10/10/2015:yay:

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                        Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                        Satzuma, this is your safe place. Your place to laugh, cry, moan and share the general crap that we call everyday living. A place where we share and learn from each other. Who knows when the time will come that we need you. :heartbeat:
                        It could be worse, I could be filing.
                        AF since 7/7/2009

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                          Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                          Evening troopers,

                          Still banjaxed but doing my nightly pop in...

                          Originally posted by satz123 View Post
                          I won't post any more folks 'cos it's always bad news...... and I can't be jolly any more ...
                          Ahem, doc?

                          Originally posted by stirly-girly View Post
                          Evening Army!!

                          Just taking a quick peek around the boards and saw this. Satzybum, IMVHO, the last thing you need to do is cut yourself off from the people who can truly understand what all of this is about. We may not have the answers as to how you should deal with your son, but we do know why he is doing what he's doing. And I know I may be out of turn since I don't post that often, but I always knew that MWO was the place that I could talk if I needed to and that the support is always here. We all have to protect our sobriety above all, and being here among your friends who understand is part of that. Don't distance yourself for the reason you gave - this isn't a place to be jolly - it's a forum to get and receive support no matter what is going on in our personal lives. You have friends here and that's what friends are for - to listen in times of trouble and stress, not just be here for the laughs. It goes without saying that every single member of the Army is concerned for you and what you are dealing with so come on back and get the support that you, personally, need and may not be able to find elsewhere. As I said, we may not be able to give you professional advice on how to deal with young Satz, but we addicts definitely know why he is doing what he's doing and everyone is here to listen. So get yerself back to the barracks where you belong.

                          Hello to everyone else!! I was over on the Sunday Shout Out thread earlier and was delighted to see how many are racking up the sober days. It really made my day!!

                          Edited to add - NS hit the nail on the head with that last comment - your son is still there, he just has to get himself out of the bottle and hopefully he will soon have the will to do that.
                          See wot she said - and a'body else, doc? READ IT and BELIEVE IT.

                          I'm gonna add my tuppence worth too - when ever i've been reached out to you in a PM or on the boards, you were there with sage advice. Please never think that just because your posts just now are "negative" (they're not, they're REAL) that we don't need to hear/read them. As far as I'm concerned MWO is here so we can share our woes/concerns, even if they are ongoing. Perhaps what you/others/I don't realise is that hearing about other's lives here is a privilege. Seriously. So please continue posting. The army is here for these times, otherwise what's the point? As stirly said, the forum is not a comedy forum - it's a forum to get help with AL. You did. And now you need support with how AL is affecting young Satz. And from the little I know of you, I do know you are incredibly thoughtful, caring and wise. You're also bloody funny. (You'd do well on a comedy forum ) :hug:

                          I expect you back in the mess hall first thing, y'hear?! Good.

                          Right, off to my leaba. See youse themorra.
                          Last edited by RunningCourage; February 11, 2018, 05:00 PM.

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                            Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                            Ah FFS now yiz have me whinging.

                            All right I'll be back tomorrow with the next exciting instalment in the Satz Saga.

                            What a lovely bunch of alkies you are :love:
                            Last edited by satz123; February 12, 2018, 04:48 AM.

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                              Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                              :biglove:
                              It could be worse, I could be filing.
                              AF since 7/7/2009

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                                Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                                Evening..
                                Following all the posts today, just havnt had a moment to check in. So glad they talked you back to posting Satz.. I find myself in work wondering how young Satz is doing. Cant add to all the chat here today except there could be someone else out there reading this and struggling like your fella, the conversations here might just touch someone else for the right reason,
                                Wave to all, good to see everyone.

                                Night XXX
                                AF - July 19th 2015 :happy2:

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