Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

[tonyniceday]

Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

[MENTION=9094]satz123[/MENTION] don't you dare go away! You have helped loads of us in your time here and if you think we're gonna abandon you i your time of need then think on, lady!

Yes there may be some jolly banter here but we are all here for one reason only...addiction to alcohol... we may not have answers all the time but we have bloody good ears and we can support YOU through this when YOU need it...

Keep on posting Satz.... we want to hear it.... everyone above is right... we don't get shocked by the underbed stash just reminded of what life was for us. You CANNOT shock us and far be it for me to speak for others but I am sure we are all here for you for the journey not just for light entertainment!

Stick with us Satz

[starty]

Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

Morning all. Satzy I am truly sorry that your family is going through this. I dont have words of advice but I do know that not speaking about a problem or isolating is the worst thing you can do. Glad you have decided not to do that. Your mental health is paramount during this difficult time xx

[RunningCourage]

Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

Evening..
Following all the posts today, just havnt had a moment to check in. So glad they talked you back to posting Satz.. I find myself in work wondering how young Satz is doing. Cant add to all the chat here today except there could be someone else out there reading this and struggling like your fella, the conversations here might just touch someone else for the right reason,
Wave to all, good to see everyone.

Night XXX

For what it's worth - just want to reiterate what Mary said. When I first looked online about ways to reduce/stop drinking AL on a nightly basis all those... uhh... 6 years ago... I mind coming to forums such as these (yes, including MWO) and lurking, reading, looking for anyone that was going through the same relationship to AL as I was having. Even if such ppl never join a forum, such conversations about AL, our own relationships and dealings with it as well as how we are helping others - here online, or, as with Satz, in the physical home environment CAN help others in ways we will never know.

The fruition our knowledge / advice / expertise may never be know to us, but that does not mean to say it is not worth anything. Indeed it may even save a life...

[RunningCourage]

Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

Right on, folks...it's...

MONDAY :yay:

[OK, I is got a day off, never normally celebrating effin' feckin Mondays :haha:

Still an early start, but it's one of those lovely mornings whereby i get up, brew a coffee and go back to bed and chill (for a bit... theoretically, i am procrastinating, as I ought to be working.reading/ WRITING :egad: on my dissertation which I am rapidly getting behind on...) But that's for another hour...

Back laters - hope you have a good day.

[rustop59]

Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

Morning everyone. Work day so running out the door. Delighted to see you back Satz:heartbeat:. Baltic out there, did short walk with the doggies but glad to get back in. Catch you all later.

[mollyka]

Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

Good!! You should be here missus!! Morning everyone- awake all poxy night - just cold - bitter night - must go get showered talk later xx

[satz123]

Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

Ok LOVELY Army people & visiting friends some advice needed here.
So we can take it is worse than even I thought.
He's been drinking almost 24/7 for 7 days.
He will wake soon - he will have withdrawals - what shall I do with him?
He thinks I know it all. And as NS said my lovely son is in there somewhere - struggling.

He's not bad enough for A&E & I'm not prepared to sit there for 6 hours I'm afraid by which time it'll be too late - the worst would be over.

Anyone been through something like this at home ?

[tonyniceday]

Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

Morning troops

Hope your all enjoying Monday, as you all go back to work, so my weekend starts ... off today and tomorrow (although sleeping in at Hotel "on call" tonight)...

Sorting things out to hopefully move into new house at the end of the week....really nice modern house with a seaview from main bedroom... can't wait....still got everything crossed that there are no hiccups!

[satz123]

Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

Good Luck Toe Knee

[JackieClaire]

Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

[MENTION=9094]satz123[/MENTION]

It depends on a mass of things, weight, general health, how much, when the last drink was. Now the scariest thing in the world I've ever seen is an alcohol withdrawal seizure.........luckily it happened in an AA meeting and the old timers knew exactly what to do. The poor lad started sweating..........and when I say sweating his face went so white and there was a sort of odd sheen to his face and down to his neck....... then shaking down to his boots......he hadn't got a clue where he was....... The old timers took him outside where he started seizing, they called an ambulance as urgent medical is needed.........now that is your worst case scenario.

So its over to him..........he'll need to track how he's feeling........physically and mentally...........another couple of drinks will make him feel soooooooooooo much better he'll just think he didn't have a problem in the first place.

Ever seen one of your old blokes first in the pub hands shaking while they're downing their first pint...........that's withdrawal.

Alcohol Withdrawal: Symptoms, Treatment and Alcohol Detox Duration

[JackieClaire]

Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

[MENTION=23019]tonyniceday[/MENTION]...........ooh are you having a house warming...........we'll be there in spades.

Off out for lunch with my cousin, her kids and Aunt (its her birthday) today.

[stirly-girly]

Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

Good morning Troopers!

Satz - good to see you back! I have some questions as far as the withdrawals go. Jackie is right about his weight, height, health, etc. My question is what was he drinking? - If he was drinking beer which has a fairly low alcohol content, his withdrawal symptoms most likely won't be so bad. However, if he was drinking hard liquor, then the symptoms could be much worse and very serious. Not trying to scare you - just want you to be prepared. Drinking 24/7 will definitely increase the risk of more severe symptoms. It is always said, that lots of liquids help and my thought is that something easy on the stomach but warming, such as broth would be good. Keep him warm and as calm as possible. But be on watch for the symptoms getting worse and if necessary, you'll have to get him to the A&E unless you can get a doctor to make a house call and give him a shot of some kind of medication to calm him down and ease the symptoms. He'll no doubt try to convince you to give him something to drink to help ease the symptoms. That is up to you. Not much else to add - just best of luck and take care of yourself while caring for young Satz.

Wishing you all as good a day as you can possibly make it!!!

[RunningCourage]

Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

[MENTION=9094]satz123[/MENTION]

There's wise folks here - thinking of you. I don't know what I can add to help. My only concern with him is whether he realises he has a problem. I'm of similar ages, right? Certainly I'd be taking a long look in the mirror if I was doing 24/7 benders and my folks were helping me with my AL abuse, and knowing too that one parent had decided it'd be wiser to not drink than to drink, so give it up. But then, even in my late 20s when staying at my folks over the Xmas period and being pretty depressed (due to a love issue) I drank a lot (I know my maw was raising an eyebrow to it) late at night, though not during the day.. but didn;t think I had a problem. God forbid! I was just someone who enjoyed their drink. A connoisseur, you might say... Yeah, yeah... whatever (I'd LIKE to be, but eventually it became, as Molls said, the cheapest wine). So, i just HOPE he KNOWS his predicament (or coming to realise where he is at) and not yet either in denial, or, perhaps worse?, simply not realising the issue he has.

[satz123]

Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

Ah Mr D'Arcey
We are way beyond that.
He is not even functioning any more. He has been to Molls' rehab and still came out & drank after 3 weeks.
He is now sleeping & drinking - nothing else.
He arrived home last evening and couldn't even speak. I told him to go to bed.
At some stage during the night he couldn't get to the shed to get alcohol because we locked the back door - he went out front door and jumped the wall and got to the shed that way.

He KNOWS the issue he has and staves off the inevitable withdrawals by drinking again. In my warped way I can understand that.
So today he has promised to stay put.
I am just afraid of the withdrawals ( Kindling effect ) he is going to have today here in my house.

I'm tired of it ...... and I am now considering a tapering for him with beer if he is bad which I think he will be. I found empty gin, whiskey & wine bottles yesterday.

How do I know if I need to taper off?
If when you stop drinking your hands are visibly shaky, you begin to sweat a lot, you have a rapid or irregular pulse, or your blood pressure is very high then it is advisable to taper off alcohol and not quit cold turkey. You can taper off by using alcohol or by getting prescription meds from your doctor. A pulse of over 100 beats per minute is a definite danger sign.
How do I use alcohol to taper off?
Beer is the best form of alcohol to use when tapering off. If you attempt to taper off using wine or hard liquor you might just wind up getting drunk again because these have higher alcohol content than beer. Try to limit yourself to drinking no more alcohol than necessary when you start tapering. Drink just enough to keep the sweats and shakes at bay. Gradually reduce the consumption of beer as you continue to taper. If the withdrawal is not too extreme you should be tapered off in a day or so. Some people may, however take longer--three days or even a week. If you start to feel withdrawal that is a sign that your taper is not done yet.
It is also very important when tapering off to fight dehydration and to replenish lost vitamins. If you go through a medical detox the people they may rehydrate you with an IV and may also give you vitamin shots. If you are doing a self detox be sure to drink lots and lots of fluids and to take vitamin pills.

[NoSugar]

Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

I'm so sorry you have to deal with this [MENTION=9094]satz123[/MENTION] :hug:. I have no idea what the detox protocol is but wonder if he could be in a clinic or hospital with unattached professionals monitoring him. To handle this as a non-professional who loves him just sounds brutal. xx