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    Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

    HAHA --- Tom it is so ;-)

    I am in awe of how self-aware you are.. even down to the 'substituting' remark about the Ice Tea.... when I quit first I was shambling from one SO typical scenario to another - quit the drink so go shopping - play online poker - and yes and no re. the drinks - I liked losing my booze weight at the beginning so didn't go for high calorie or caffeine drinks - BUT - whatever was in my glass - went down at a pint a minute... I'm guessing if I'd kept going with the chaos I probably would have looked for some other legal or illegal 'high' -- not sober - just not drinking..

    What else - forgotten what everyone else said so will just say HI -- what a satisfying afternoon of rugby --- TOO good... and then Joey called in with Alana and baby Éabha - so a lovely afternoon/evening had by me.. must go back and re-read.....
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      Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

      Mollyka, your mention of going to the next fix is the next 'dopamine fix'. Research has shown even shopaholics are addicted to that dopamine high. This would make sense in the different types of addictions. When I was reading RunningCourage's post about how he was feeling, it was late at night, and I was too tired to respond and needed to sleep. As I read it, that high came to mind. Later I saw comments referring to the excitement wearing off and figured I'd mention it at a later date when time allowed. We get these rushes in many things in our lives and when that isn't there, we reach for something that will give it to us. I feel some success may come allowing ourselves those time periods of 'it just is'...nothing exciting and accept that and let that be.

      Concerning self awareness, it comes from failures and some harsh life experiences. Sadly, I believe we learn more in adversity and pain then in the happier times of life. I put that up there with 'youth is wasted on the young'. BTW, I have Irish blood in me. That may explain it. Add some German and I was doomed to be a drinker. Errr...never mind. I'll go spank that personality full of excuses.
      The Drunkards Progress. From the first glass to the grave...

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        Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

        Oh good the Irish beat Wales............makes up for the dismal show England put on against Scotland........would you believe we went to do the grocery shopping at 7pm rather than watch them gloating and a good old sulk. Should have let the women's team play instead. We're talking rugby [MENTION=24140]Crusader[/MENTION]. You'll be fluent in all sports in Europe before long.

        And Crusader its an absolute pleasure to read your posts.......never had ice-tea.

        Spoke to Jenny and she sounds fabulous........I was near fit to be tied after she did her swift exit from her fiance but its the best thing that's happened to her.
        It could be worse, I could be filing.
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          Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

          The Scots gloat??? noooooo -- surely not

          Yes - I have definitely 'learnt more in adversity and pain' - and I absolutely agree that if we can just accept that things just 'are' and not just in early recovery - at all times in our lives we will encounter - for want of a better word - 'boring' periods in our lives - everyone does - but with alcohol we never had to be bored - we just went to our pick-me-up -- lazy lazy lazy --

          Delighted about Jenny Jacks - such good news x
          Contentedly sober since 27/12/2011
          contentedly NF since 8/04/14

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            Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

            The only thing worse than a bad loser is a bad winner.
            It could be worse, I could be filing.
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              Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

              I should add I adore Scotland. I spend many holidays there, my brother lives there but when it comes to any England V Scotland sporting event..........I get mouthy.
              Last edited by JackieClaire; February 24, 2018, 04:14 PM.
              It could be worse, I could be filing.
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                Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                And so it is, mollyka, boring/humdrum/dull. After this last year, I believe I'll welcome it with open arms!!

                Thank you, Jackie. What a wonderful thing to say. As far as ice-tea, that is a Popsicle. HA! Forgive my spelling error as I've only known how to say and spell a 'Long Island' please. Wait, did I just hear a brain cell pop? I must finish up and go check. Maybe one woke up?

                Have a wonderful weekend!
                The Drunkards Progress. From the first glass to the grave...

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                  Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                  Originally posted by Crusader View Post

                  Thank you, Jackie. What a wonderful thing to say. As far as ice-tea, that is a Popsicle. HA! Forgive my spelling error as I've only known how to say and spell a 'Long Island' please. Wait, did I just hear a brain cell pop? I must finish up and go check. Maybe one woke up?

                  Have a wonderful weekend!
                  If you find any of my brain cells just pop them in a padded envelope.
                  It could be worse, I could be filing.
                  AF since 7/7/2009

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                    Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                    Originally posted by JackieClaire View Post
                    The only thing worse than a bad loser is a bad winner.
                    Originally posted by JackieClaire View Post
                    I should add I adore Scotland. I spend many holidays there, my brother lives there but when it comes to any England V Scotland sporting event..........I get mouthy.
                    HAHAHA!!! Well you can't have your cake and eat it too:welldone:
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                      Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                      Originally posted by Crusader View Post
                      And so it is, mollyka, boring/humdrum/dull. After this last year, I believe I'll welcome it with open arms!!
                      When in treatment - I got some great news about the family and got all excited about it - one of the counsellors almost gave out to me - thought she was being a right cow - but after a month down there and learning lots of stuff I realised that the 'ideal' state for us all in early recovery - is an even keel -- aka boring/humdrum/dull -- any roller coaster of emotions is dangerous for us -- so there you go --- boring is the new BLAST!!!!:congratulatory:
                      Heading to bed now - need some sleep! night folks xx
                      Contentedly sober since 27/12/2011
                      contentedly NF since 8/04/14

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                        Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                        Originally posted by JackieClaire View Post
                        [MENTION=23019]tonyniceday[/MENTION]



                        This made my ears prick up in alarm.......especially this bit................forgive me if I'm wrong but this sounds like you want to drink on holiday and get back to sober land when you get back.........and you know and I know and every beggar on these boards knows its not easy to snap back.

                        I wouldn't normally jump on something so quick, but there's time for planning, Tony and its only because we care.
                        Jacks that is probably why I said it now, I know it's wrong but it's what's going through my tiny little sweetcorn kernel of a brain and I've put it out here now because that is exactly how I want things to be and I need help if I am going to change my mind set.
                        It's not like I'm going next week... the plan is for going on 28th April (by the way, with an overnight on the 27th at a Newcastle Airport Hotel!)

                        So there is plenty of time for you all to help me see the error of my ways and for me to change my mind.

                        It would be plain stupid of me to come on here and not be honest about how I feel, I know it's wrong but it's the way my mind set is right now.

                        I'll be seeing the shrink between now and then too.


                        Another post will follow with this weekend's news!
                        Last edited by tonyniceday; February 24, 2018, 10:33 PM.

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                          Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                          Morning - good for you Tony - did similar once - on tablet now - will expand later when I get up - lovely sunny day here
                          Contentedly sober since 27/12/2011
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                            Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                            Good morning folks, sorry I forgot my manners yesterday, welcome to the army Crusader.
                            It is indeed a lovely sunny morning, I might try a gentle stroll around the garden in a while as I feel a lot better. Back to work on Tuesday anyway so hopefully I will be fine. I wasn't impressed to see that I was docked my two days pay this week given that I was hardly swinging the lead but when I questioned it I was told they had to pay my replacement instead. Hard to see how a company could survive if it's that hard up, anyway I though it poor form.
                            Ethanol is a toxic chemical, why would I drink it?

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                              Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                              Originally posted by tonyniceday View Post
                              Jacks that is probably why I said it now, I know it's wrong but it's what's going through my tiny little sweetcorn kernel of a brain and I've put it out here now because that is exactly how I want things to be and I need help if I am going to change my mind set.
                              It's not like I'm going next week... the plan is for going on 28th April (by the way, with an overnight on the 27th at a Newcastle Airport Hotel!)

                              So there is plenty of time for you all to help me see the error of my ways and for me to change my mind.

                              It would be plain stupid of me to come on here and not be honest about how I feel, I know it's wrong but it's the way my mind set is right now.

                              I'll be seeing the shrink between now and then too.


                              Another post will follow with this weekend's news!
                              Right - MY 'story' -- I'll keep it short - if you notice my quit date is 27th Dec.. at the tail end of my 'stop-start' relationship with alcohol I found myself in trouble with the family cos they didn't know where they stood with me - think it was easier for them when it was just constant and below the radar - after all - back then there were no crises....really... anyway - had a blow out the previous Oct - confronted by daughter who was in Canada - she was coming home for Christmas and going back home on the 28th Dec.. she made me promise (never promise - we are addicts -- we CAN'T promise) not to drink over Christmas -- that was no biggie to me cos I rarely drank at Christmas for yonks - HOWEVER -- I remember seeing the 'out' long ahead of Christmas -- insert whiney alkie voice here (it was in my head obs!!!) 'my only daughter will be going back to Canada on the 28th - how will I not console myself?' yada yada yada -- so I came on here and mentioned it - and got great support - for Christmas.... did I mention the day AFTER Christmas? no - so I wasn't letting ANYONE down --- was I ? Kept my promise.... and - as they say -- the rest is history.....
                              The point I'm making is --- if you keep the TINIEST WEENIEST 'out' for that holiday - you're screwed -- you WILL drink - it's a no-brainer..

                              Now -- if you feel you can (like Jackie says) drink for the couple of weeks and just get back on where you left off? -- well -- you might -- I know Benjy did... and maybe others - but the overwhelming % of people here and in AA will relate that each and every relapse makes it harder and harder to get back on the wagon... cunning and baffling are just two of the words attached to alcohol - powerful is the other -- it worms it's way into our brains and there is NO common sense - my counsellor told me to leave my brains at the front door of the treatment centre - how right he was... I too drank on a holiday after a seamless easy quit -- planning on reverting to my new sober status -- took me two hard miserable years and a stint in rehab to do so.. now that's all MY story - we are NOT all the same - and at the end of the day it's your decision to make - it always is.. but look at what you've given up to get sober -- your relationship, your business, your home -- are those few glasses (which may very well be 'functional' glasses which will also make you feel you can carry on drinking 'functionally' -- ) worth having done all that for? said with love - truly

                              Originally posted by Tabbers (a.k.a. KTAB) View Post
                              Good morning folks, sorry I forgot my manners yesterday, welcome to the army Crusader.
                              It is indeed a lovely sunny morning, I might try a gentle stroll around the garden in a while as I feel a lot better. Back to work on Tuesday anyway so hopefully I will be fine. I wasn't impressed to see that I was docked my two days pay this week given that I was hardly swinging the lead but when I questioned it I was told they had to pay my replacement instead. Hard to see how a company could survive if it's that hard up, anyway I though it poor form.
                              That IS scabby - Joe had a very small little business with just a few employees - and he always paid them when they were out sick... scabby indeed - maybe it IS time to move on?? Glad you are feeling a bit better xxxx
                              Last edited by mollyka; February 25, 2018, 04:52 AM.
                              Contentedly sober since 27/12/2011
                              contentedly NF since 8/04/14

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                                Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                                Good morning everyone. Sorry to hear you were poorly Tabs and about the work situation. You are right Tony to put it out there, our alkie brains are devious. Afraid I don’t have much advice, the holiday I did af last summer was activity based, no pubs on the Inca trail so that made it much easier.

                                Beautiful sunny morning so going to get a nice walk in.

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