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    Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

    Originally posted by rustop59 View Post
    Good morning everyone. Sorry to hear you were poorly Tabs and about the work situation. You are right Tony to put it out there, our alkie brains are devious. Afraid I don’t have much advice, the holiday I did af last summer was activity based, no pubs on the Inca trail so that made it much easier.

    Beautiful sunny morning so going to get a nice walk in.
    Morning Rusters! - funny - you put a thought in my mind there - NEVER thought I could do a sober holiday - seemed unconquerable - until I did it... the ones I did BEFORE learning shit in treatment were a little bit sort of self conscious and meh.... but ok.... BUT -- the change up came when I did the balance sheet - examine the drinking EXACTLY as it is/was on holiday - not just the great craic of the first couple of scoops -- think the dry mouth hangover - the dragging out of bed - the missed things to do because - well frankly - I couldn't be arsed - the waiting - omg that WAITING for lunchtime - because on holidays we can ALL drink at lunchtime -- right?? (since getting sober I RARELY see anyone drinking at lunchtime on holidays) having that one glass with Joe - and then..... shit - that's ALL he wants.... no good to me.... what to do -- risk his cranky look when I want the second -- mm ---- then - then waiting for the next legit drink - OR - secreting that bottle in my suitcase and having a few surreptitious slurps during the afternoon -- night time arrives - he's all gung-ho to go start a good night out -- I'm frankly bollixed -- not drunk -- not in anyway under the weather -- except I'm so shagging tired... would love to throw my feet up on the bed and drink lots of wine and watch tele.... now THAT was never going to happen -- pissed by 10pm and he's only revving up......................................... why would I want to do that? My drinking was NOT normal

    no --- never again - just couldn't imagine going back to that.. for anything -- insert yer own HONEST drinking pattern on hols... see how it pans out..??
    Contentedly sober since 27/12/2011
    contentedly NF since 8/04/14

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      Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

      Originally posted by mollyka View Post
      That IS scabby - Joe had a very small little business with just a few employees - and he always paid them when they were out sick... scabby indeed - maybe it IS time to move on?? Glad you are feeling a bit better xxxx
      Thanks I am grand now, on the mend.
      I know its allaboutme.com but I would appreciate your collective options on my working situation. Bearing in mind it is the first time I have been out in over 5 years and have to stay on till the job is done irrelevant of how long that may be it seems a little unfair. Did I mention I don't get paid overtime, just offered time off in lieu if I bring it up, obviously if I take that then I just end up having to get the same amount done in a shorter time so never bother. Two weeks ago I get a call at 6pm on a sat night and have to drive in, open up sort a problem which took about half an hour and the lock up again, bear in mind though that I am the only one who would know how to sort the problem so can hardly say no. I was surprised I even got a 'thank you' however.
      Ethanol is a toxic chemical, why would I drink it?

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        Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

        Morning,
        Enjoy the walk [MENTION=15758]rustop59[/MENTION], just back from a run - bit of a nip but its a beautiful fresh sunny day. icy cold weather on the way.. apparently.
        Feels a bit spring like now - new plans and beginnings. Delighted to hear that young Satz is doing so well and Jenny too! [MENTION=7008]JackieClaire[/MENTION]... she's really done a complete turnaround..
        Xpost Molly..
        I was 30 sober for my first holiday, I was only a lurker at the time and didnt ask for support. Suffice to say, I had to start again. 2nd time around, the guilt of letting everyone here down, who had invested so much of their time to support me, probably carried me over the worst of it!!! [MENTION=23019]tonyniceday[/MENTION], start preparing for that holiday now, you know you can do this. You can be Tony waking up every morning to ready to embrace the day Vs sad Tony, waiting for the bar to open to feel normal again on his holliers..

        Scabby bastards [MENTION=21798]Tabbers (a.k.a. KTAB)[/MENTION]. Glad your back to normal again. Are you dusting off that CV?

        Great posts [MENTION=24140]Crusader[/MENTION] - your are doing brilliantly!
        AF - July 19th 2015 :happy2:

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          Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

          Sorry, crossed posts with Molly and Tabbers! morning..

          Molly, your description is exactly bang on. Holiday or home, I wasnt too interested in public sessions. At home, wine in hand, loads in the fridge and not have to talk to anyone. very sad.
          AF - July 19th 2015 :happy2:

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            Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

            Originally posted by IamMary View Post
            Scabby bastards [MENTION=21798]Tabbers (a.k.a. KTAB)[/MENTION]. Glad your back to normal again. Are you dusting off that CV?
            Haha SB that made me laugh. Regarding the C.V. I am over 50 so have this idea in my head that its going to be very difficult to find anything decent, maybe I will be proven wrong.
            Ethanol is a toxic chemical, why would I drink it?

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              Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

              Originally posted by Tabbers (a.k.a. KTAB) View Post
              Thanks I am grand now, on the mend.
              I know its allaboutme.com but I would appreciate your collective options on my working situation. Bearing in mind it is the first time I have been out in over 5 years and have to stay on till the job is done irrelevant of how long that may be it seems a little unfair. Did I mention I don't get paid overtime, just offered time off in lieu if I bring it up, obviously if I take that then I just end up having to get the same amount done in a shorter time so never bother. Two weeks ago I get a call at 6pm on a sat night and have to drive in, open up sort a problem which took about half an hour and the lock up again, bear in mind though that I am the only one who would know how to sort the problem so can hardly say no. I was surprised I even got a 'thank you' however.
              all depends on your relationship and work situation. On occasion, I pull in the hours, have to turn up at the weekend, depending on the project. However, It does not go unnoticed. Its down to respect I suppose and that goes both ways. If Im not getting it, I wont give it. Is your phone a work phone? are you obliged to take the call, obliged to go into work (what if it had happened when you were drinking)?
              I have no idea what size your company is, but I imagine, if its a smaller company, you only have a handful of people to speak to about this, rather thank a large HR dept with policies and procedures etc.
              Also, have you spoken to your line manager about all of this? the pay and expectations?
              AF - July 19th 2015 :happy2:

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                Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                Originally posted by Tabbers (a.k.a. KTAB) View Post
                Haha SB that made me laugh. Regarding the C.V. I am over 50 so have this idea in my head that its going to be very difficult to find anything decent, maybe I will be proven wrong.
                Completely and utterly wrong there Tabbers. Im sick telling MrM the same thing. We just took on 2 guys in their mid 50s. Its a pleasure dealing with them - calm and they know so much..
                AF - July 19th 2015 :happy2:

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                  Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                  Originally posted by Tabbers (a.k.a. KTAB) View Post
                  Haha SB that made me laugh. Regarding the C.V. I am over 50 so have this idea in my head that its going to be very difficult to find anything decent, maybe I will be proven wrong.
                  One last word on this, update or start a Linkedin account. Seems to be where its all happening now and the way companies are moving towards - it takes a while to get into it, but let that be your spring project.
                  AF - July 19th 2015 :happy2:

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                    Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                    I did my first (short) holiday with 3 friends to a wine region last year, I was 5 months sober (daft in hindsight) but I knew there was absolutely NO WAY I would drink or even consider it and it was grand. I couldn't believe how much more I enjoyed the holiday sober, maybe looking at my buddies, one of whom has a drink problem imo, through sober eyes was a revelation. Now if I had allowed even .0001% of maybe I will have just a glass of wine thinking before I left then the advice I would have been looking to hear would have been 'don't go' for it would have only ended one way. Although I didn't see it that way, at the time, I would given myself 'permission'.
                    Ethanol is a toxic chemical, why would I drink it?

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                      Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                      Thanks Mary for taking the time to reply. Small company and recently let a couple go so things aren't good I know. HR dept no such thing. Respect, nope I am a means to an end I feel and the place is full of negativity from others who probably feel similar so not a healthy environment atm. I will check out Linkedin ta.
                      P.S. my personal phone, could visualise him turning up at my door if I didn't answer....
                      Last edited by Tabbers (a.k.a. KTAB); February 25, 2018, 05:45 AM.
                      Ethanol is a toxic chemical, why would I drink it?

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                        Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                        Originally posted by Tabbers (a.k.a. KTAB) View Post
                        Haha SB that made me laugh. Regarding the C.V. I am over 50 so have this idea in my head that its going to be very difficult to find anything decent, maybe I will be proven wrong.
                        NO - Tabbers - you ARE wrong - it would appear since the virtual disappearance of 'jobs for life' and so many more people working on contract - age is irrelevant - and even in my job which actually IS still a 'job for life' - there were 400 applicants for 5 jobs and my boss was the interviewer -- 2 of the 5 that were picked were in their 50's -- NOT an obstacle -- truly - and - well my opinion - they are taking the piss. They really are - anyone doing anything in their own time is just not on - and if it is done - like Mary says - the gratitude should be effusive AND rewarded.. the time in lieu is a joke - we are the same - no overtime pay - so I refuse - point blank - have a look out there and see if you HAVE alternatives - then you can make a decision - at the moment there is no decision to make because you see no alternative -- you are being taken for granted.. and that's NOT nice

                        Originally posted by IamMary View Post
                        Completely and utterly wrong there Tabbers. Im sick telling MrM the same thing. We just took on 2 guys in their mid 50s. Its a pleasure dealing with them - calm and they know so much..
                        yes yes yes
                        Contentedly sober since 27/12/2011
                        contentedly NF since 8/04/14

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                          Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                          Tabbers......Listen to Molls and Mers, I've been out of the work place politics so long that I can't comment and when I was I was in such a small company nobody got paid that much.

                          [MENTION=23019]tonyniceday[/MENTION]........let me know what time you're arriving in the toon and me and the old man will take you out for a curry/chinese/Maccyd and I'll come and buy you a coffee and see you off at the airport.

                          Well my Winter Olympics is over and I'm going to miss it. Its been fascinating.
                          It could be worse, I could be filing.
                          AF since 7/7/2009

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                            Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                            jaysus - was settling in for the day to watch all the Winter Olympics - the men are doing blue jobs...;-) feckin Olympics are OVER???? Morning Jacks
                            Contentedly sober since 27/12/2011
                            contentedly NF since 8/04/14

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                              Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                              Originally posted by mollyka View Post
                              jaysus - was settling in for the day to watch all the Winter Olympics - the men are doing blue jobs...;-) feckin Olympics are OVER???? Morning Jacks
                              Closing ceremony.......its not bad. Next one's 2022 if you can wait that long.
                              It could be worse, I could be filing.
                              AF since 7/7/2009

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                                Re: Join the Army Against Alcohol-February 2018

                                Originally posted by JackieClaire View Post
                                Closing ceremony.......its not bad. Next one's 2022 if you can wait that long.
                                crikey I'll be 94 by then ;-) -- nah - reading my book.... chaos reigning all around me... but it ain't me!!! I don't do the chaos bit anymore haha -- beds moving - cots moving - Joey claiming the biggest bedroom - and he's like a pig in shit - he's so happy - bless him - he was evicted from the garage - and then insult to injury had to half build the wee apt. for free - and this is making him happy... easy peesy

                                edit.... AND -- poor Adam is coming for a nice quiet visit with his folks... he thinks.. bless him. he's gonna be mugged - the biggest bedroom is/was HIS - and we still have his STUFF --- college stuff -- he's nearly 36 - shoe boxes.... and just BOXES of shite -- he's being evicted !!!
                                Last edited by mollyka; February 25, 2018, 07:43 AM.
                                Contentedly sober since 27/12/2011
                                contentedly NF since 8/04/14

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