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    Re: Join up! Army against the grog!!! March 2018

    Good Morning Army.

    I haven't read the thread, but I did see your reply Molly and JC. I've been posting in the nest daily. I post in the cafe as well as a commitment to another 24 hours instead of the roll call.

    I'm sharing today's post here for various reasons...a more serious post as that's where I'm at presently.


    It's an up and down journey when we set out to change our lives. We often ponder about how alcohol affects our emotions at certain time periods in our quit, but I am not thinking about it in those terms this time around. I see my ups and downs in a more self reflective way. I'll have moments of clarity and joy followed by moments of a depressed state. The depressed states appear to be triggered from the past, present or worry toward the future and most importantly, not being who I should be, who I was born to be. So many things come into play in those low moments. These are often trigger moments to get a drink, but my tool box and gained knowledge are helping to have victory over those moments and feelings. I know that the alcohol will only prolong the existing struggles and inhibit intelligent, informed thought toward solving them. After my recent high to a low, I will humble myself to those periods and realize my feelings where 'I don't want to drink' can change to the opposite rapidly. I'll acknowledge this is not a stable journey, but one worth taking. The positive in these changing moods is that I am learning something in each of them. So, I can view them as a positive instead of a negative in the rear view mirror. It's where the growth is for me...those changes on a deeper level and sometimes not so deep, I need to work on each day. When you see these changes in my thoughts here, it will make more sense. It probably already does to those who have already taken the journey and climbed through some of this jungle.

    Emerson is speaking to me today.

    “I appeal from your customs. I must be myself. I cannot break myself any longer for you, or you. If you can love me for what I am, we shall be happier. If you cannot, I will still seek to deserve that you should. I must be myself. I will not hide my tastes or aversions. I will so trust that what is deep is holy, that I will do strongly before the sun and moon whatever inly rejoices me and the heart appoints. If you are noble, I will love you; if you are not, I will not hurt you and myself by hypocritical attentions. If you are true, but not in the same truth with me, cleave to your companions; I will seek my own. I do this not selfishly but humbly and truly. It is alike your interest, and mine, and all men’s, however long we have dwelt in lies, to live in truth. Does this sound harsh to-day? You will soon love what is dictated by your nature as well as mine, and if we follow the truth it will bring us out safe at last.—But so may you give these friends pain. Yes, but I cannot sell my liberty and my power, to save their sensibility. Besides, all persons have their moments of reason, when they look out into the region of absolute truth; then will they justify me and do the same thing.
    The populace think that your rejection of popular standards is a rejection of all standard, and mere antinomianism; and the bold sensualist will use the name of philosophy to gild his crimes. But the law of consciousness abides.”
    ― Ralph Waldo Emerson, Self-Reliance and Other Essays

    Day 24...Byrd, I would like a camouflage hat if you have one in your closet when my 30 day mark is achieved.

    Have a great day, all! Life is short and a precious gift we are given to grow into who we are born to be.
    The Drunkards Progress. From the first glass to the grave...

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      Re: Join up! Army against the grog!!! March 2018

      This above all: to thine own self be true,
      And it must follow, as the night the day,
      Thou canst not then be false to any man.


      I agree with Emerson Tom --- or a wise aul English lad said similar in the above quote from Hamlet

      It IS essential to me to be myself - and to speak as myself - I get myself into the odd pickle both here in the past - and in real life - I say it as it is - but only since I got sober -- I lived a lie for a long time - nowadays - if I'm tempted to speak an untruth or to mislead someone by omission... I need to examine why I would want to do that - cos that is the dishonesty that will ultimately take away my sobriety - the two are dependant on each other.

      And as regards how you feel you are doing - in honesty - my first 6 months at least were turbulent... one day happy strong confident - next day - seriously blue - anxious - but I'd been forewarned that that was 'normal' and that it would level out - and that made it much much easier - it's like if you're taking medication and you know a side effect - for instance maybe heartburn or sleeplessness... it just makes it easier to cope with .. imo!

      Evening all - again - quiet around here these days... probably heading to bed very soon - talking of side effects -- the antibiotic is knocking the stuffing out of me!!!
      Contentedly sober since 27/12/2011
      contentedly NF since 8/04/14

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        Re: Join up! Army against the grog!!! March 2018

        Late checkin, havnt read back, but I will tomorrow. Looks like some good posts earlier.

        Happy mammys day, the last 3 minutes of it
        AF - July 19th 2015 :happy2:

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          Re: Join up! Army against the grog!!! March 2018

          Morning, got an emergency appointment at the dentist this afternoon.........haven't felt quite this miserable in a long time. Another day of painkillers and having to bring the heavy duty co-codamol in.

          This above all: to thine own self be true,
          And it must follow, as the night the day,
          Thou canst not then be false to any man.
          Didn't know yer man from Stratford wrote that.

          Don't think I've got any lies left, Molls........apart from the one where some one asks if you're okay and you say........fine, just, fine because its too complicated to tell or you know they won't be interested one jot.
          It could be worse, I could be filing.
          AF since 7/7/2009

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            Re: Join up! Army against the grog!!! March 2018

            Originally posted by JackieClaire View Post
            Morning, got an emergency appointment at the dentist this afternoon.........haven't felt quite this miserable in a long time. Another day of painkillers and having to bring the heavy duty co-codamol in.



            Didn't know yer man from Stratford wrote that.

            Don't think I've got any lies left, Molls........apart from the one where some one asks if you're okay and you say........fine, just, fine because its too complicated to tell or you know they won't be interested one jot.
            Ah yeah I do THAT one alright - 'cept to Joe - moan incessantly to him apparently:happy2:
            Contentedly sober since 27/12/2011
            contentedly NF since 8/04/14

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              Re: Join up! Army against the grog!!! March 2018

              Sorry bout the toof:sad:
              Contentedly sober since 27/12/2011
              contentedly NF since 8/04/14

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                Re: Join up! Army against the grog!!! March 2018

                Originally posted by mollyka View Post
                Ah yeah I do THAT one alright - 'cept to Joe - moan incessantly to him apparently:happy2:
                Yep we make these things up, just for attention......as if

                Originally posted by mollyka View Post
                Sorry bout the toof:sad:
                Beginning to think I may as well make a regular appointment once a week........or get all the buggers pulled out, get falsies and just send them by courier to get properly cleaned once every 3 months.
                It could be worse, I could be filing.
                AF since 7/7/2009

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                  Re: Join up! Army against the grog!!! March 2018

                  I'm going to eat last night's left over Chinese.........starving.
                  It could be worse, I could be filing.
                  AF since 7/7/2009

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                    Re: Join up! Army against the grog!!! March 2018

                    Good Morning Army...an early one for me.

                    I always appreciate hearing your wise words, molls. First and foremost, we have to get honest with ourselves. Who can do that when you keep an attachment to alcohol or whatever other vises one may have to not deal with the raw truths of living a human experience. I still abide by the belief we are spiritual beings living a human experience. Every so often, I step back into the wisdom from some of histories writers. I look at the world today, and see so regularly that we are bent on repeating history versus learning from it. There is nothing new inside of us that can't be answered by a wise old soul. I felt a pull toward Emerson yesterday. I think I'll head to the library this week and pick up a couple gems if they are in. So much is on the internet, but I still get pleasure holding a book in my hands. When I moved several years back, I let go of all my books. I've been minimizing my possessions, but sometimes, I yearn for some of those books that once sat on my shelves. While, I'm there, maybe some survival books...how about a trip to 'On Golden Pond' for myself? Or a walkabout as the Aussies say; albeit, I'm past the age, why not?

                    Jackie, sorry to read about your tooth. I know all about mouth issues. Mine were caused by an accident years ago. It's been an ongoing situation for years. Be extra nice in self care, nice lady.

                    Day 25 and a nice day to all.
                    Last edited by Crusader; March 12, 2018, 06:55 AM.
                    The Drunkards Progress. From the first glass to the grave...

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                      Re: Join up! Army against the grog!!! March 2018

                      Originally posted by Crusader View Post
                      Good Morning Army...an early one for me.

                      I always appreciate hearing your wise words, molls. First and foremost, we have to get honest with ourselves. Who can do that when you keep an attachment to alcohol or whatever other vises one may have to not deal with the raw truths of living a human experience. I still abide by the belief we are spiritual beings living a human experience. Every so often, I step back into the wisdom from some of histories writers. I look at the world today, and see so regularly that we are bent on repeating history versus learning from it. There is nothing new inside of us that can't be answered by a wise old soul. I felt a pull toward Emerson yesterday. I think I'll head to the library this week and pick up a couple gems if they are in. So much is on the internet, but I still get pleasure holding a book in my hands. When I moved several years back, I let go of all my books. I've been minimizing my possessions, but sometimes, I yearn for some of those books that once sat on my shelves. While, I'm there, maybe some survival books...how about a trip to 'On Golden Pond' for myself? Or a walkabout as the Aussies say; albeit, I'm past the age, why not?

                      Jackie, sorry to read about your tooth. I know all about mouth issues. Mine were caused by an accident years ago. It's been an ongoing situation for years. Be extra nice in self care, nice lady.

                      Day 25 and a nice day to all.
                      Day 25 -- fantastic! Be sure you treasure those days - it isn't always easy to get those 25 days again - just really treasure them...:hug:

                      Books -- mmm -- well when I was a child and a young(er) adult - I was a complete bookworm - once I had a book I was happy - which was extremely liberating - there are very few places or times you can't have a book -- then -- then I found the instantaneous hit of booze - which eventually made me lose my concentration... at that stage my drinking wasn't even problematic - except to my reading... small babies didn't help either - and then -- then - I may as well have quit reading altogether - and the saddest part of that was that I didn't even realise what I had lost....
                      Then I got sober - and one day - a couple of months in maybe - I picked up a book - and guess what???!!! Haven't stopped reading since!!! It's like refinding a long lost love.
                      When I was a child btw my ideal job was to work in a library - LOVED the library on a Sat morning with my mum - and when I got a bit older - on my own
                      Then I grew up and worked in a bank - cos I needed the money - but I didn't like it much - so now -- I work in a library --- happy days!!!!
                      Contentedly sober since 27/12/2011
                      contentedly NF since 8/04/14

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                        Re: Join up! Army against the grog!!! March 2018

                        I still abide by the belief we are spiritual beings living a human experience.
                        Me too Crusader :thumbsup:
                        Have you read any of Abraham / Hicks books ?

                        The thought the this life cannot be 'It' has saved my sanity more than once. Seems futile especially when I see the old dears just waiting to die in the home.
                        They say they want to go a lot - I tell them you are still here for some reason - something left to do ....... it's comforting to me & them
                        Last edited by satz123; March 12, 2018, 07:12 AM.

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                          Re: Join up! Army against the grog!!! March 2018

                          Originally posted by mollyka View Post

                          Then I got sober - and one day - a couple of months in maybe - I picked up a book - and guess what???!!! Haven't stopped reading since!!! It's like refinding a long lost love.
                          When I was a child btw my ideal job was to work in a library - LOVED the library on a Sat morning with my mum - and when I got a bit older - on my own
                          Then I grew up and worked in a bank - cos I needed the money - but I didn't like it much - so now -- I work in a library --- happy days!!!!
                          LOVELY :hug:

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                            Re: Join up! Army against the grog!!! March 2018

                            Originally posted by satz123 View Post
                            Me too Crusader :thumbsup:
                            Have you read any of Abraham / Hicks books ?

                            The thought the this life cannot be 'It' has saved my sanity more than once. Seems futile especially when I see the old dears just waiting to die in the home.
                            They say they want to go a lot - I tell them you are still here for some reason - something left to do ....... it's comforting to me & them
                            I struggle with that one tbh - sort of feel I'm here and then I'm gone........
                            Contentedly sober since 27/12/2011
                            contentedly NF since 8/04/14

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                              Re: Join up! Army against the grog!!! March 2018

                              Mr S is off to Cheltenham Races tomorrow.
                              Bliss - no nagging to 'do' things for 4 days :haha:
                              just me and the young Alko - who is still drinking on the sly - I know where to look for the bottles - because I did EXACTLY the same myself..

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                                Re: Join up! Army against the grog!!! March 2018

                                Originally posted by mollyka View Post
                                I struggle with that one tbh - sort of feel I'm here and then I'm gone........
                                Nope Molls - YOU can't ever be gone - all that life experience can't just be gone ...... NOPE I won't allow it :rant:

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