Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

[mollyka]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

No - just nooooooo!!!

[JackieClaire]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

No - just nooooooo!!!

:hahaha:......knew that would get ya. The beef and tomato are especially tasty and do try the Bombay Blaster.

Anyway, a large piece of beef shoved in the oven. Few Yorkshire puds and roasties and we'll be set for the rest of the day.

[starty]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

Hello all. I hope you are having a great weekend?

Takeaways not my thing at all. I do eat a bit of convenience food though but add fresh veg, potatoes or pasta. Also rely on lots of fruit and veg juices. Loathe being in the kitchen as you know.

Going through a bit of a shite time meself at the mo, I think it may be PAWS. Anyone else suffer from it? I know its very common with opiates and alcohol. I think mine is more the former. Reading a lot about it yesterday and it is exactly fitting for my symptoms. One of the main things they suggest is to talk to people about it. That is the thing that paralyses me. I have an intense fear of opening up to anyone. Right now I am overwhelmed and stressed with work again. And again thinking I should leave or ask to reduce hours. I dont want to make a hasty decision when I am feeling ill though. Mr S is as always fully supportive of whatever I choose which I am eternally grateful for and count my blessings daily...along with feeling guilty for being such a loser.

Anyway, sorry to ramble on. I feel uncomfortable even putting that out there but guess discomfort is the start of healing maybe.

[stirly-girly]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

Hello all. I hope you are having a great weekend?

Takeaways not my thing at all. I do eat a bit of convenience food though but add fresh veg, potatoes or pasta. Also rely on lots of fruit and veg juices. Loathe being in the kitchen as you know.

Going through a bit of a shite time meself at the mo, I think it may be PAWS. Anyone else suffer from it? I know its very common with opiates and alcohol. I think mine is more the former. Reading a lot about it yesterday and it is exactly fitting for my symptoms. One of the main things they suggest is to talk to people about it. That is the thing that paralyses me. I have an intense fear of opening up to anyone. Right now I am overwhelmed and stressed with work again. And again thinking I should leave or ask to reduce hours. I dont want to make a hasty decision when I am feeling ill though. Mr S is as always fully supportive of whatever I choose which I am eternally grateful for and count my blessings daily...along with feeling guilty for being such a loser.

Anyway, sorry to ramble on. I feel uncomfortable even putting that out there but guess discomfort is the start of healing maybe.

Hello Army!!

Startypants - good to see you and congrats on your continued sobriety. Well, one of the best things about MWO is that you can open up here and chances are there are others who have gone through what you're going through. And most of us in the Army have been around for so long that at least here you should feel a wee bit more comfortable talking about how you're feeling and what your symptoms are. Sorry to hear that work is stressful again - that surely can't help. Maybe reducing hours at this point for a month or so would help and that would give you time to rest a bit and also to think through where you want to go from here. Great that Mr. S is supportive. And no need to feel like a loser. Dealing with addictions is not easy and you've got two you are successfully dealing with right now. And good job on that!! Not one of us asked to be an addict and we all know how difficult it can be especially with other factors thrown in - such as a demanding job. Maybe upping some vitamins or supplements or something would help. I don't know, really - just a thought. Anyway, stick close by - I'm sure the others will have some advice based on their personal experiences. Sending you hugs!!

Jackie - hope you're feeling better soon! My friend who I was supposed to go our for Easter dinner with has come down with the flu. It started yesterday and she called this morning to cancel dinner saying she has fever, pains in all her joints and a terrible headache. Hopefully you will be over it by the time you go on holidays.

Only thing we ever order in is pizza. And sometimes souvlaki. I prefer to go out to eat if I'm not going to cook. Never had Indian food. Well I did try curried something a very long time ago and didn't like the curry flavour.

A big Hello!! to all the Army brats out there. Hope you all enjoy your Sunday!!

[mollyka]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

Hello all. I hope you are having a great weekend?

Takeaways not my thing at all. I do eat a bit of convenience food though but add fresh veg, potatoes or pasta. Also rely on lots of fruit and veg juices. Loathe being in the kitchen as you know.

Going through a bit of a shite time meself at the mo, I think it may be PAWS. Anyone else suffer from it? I know its very common with opiates and alcohol. I think mine is more the former. Reading a lot about it yesterday and it is exactly fitting for my symptoms. One of the main things they suggest is to talk to people about it. That is the thing that paralyses me. I have an intense fear of opening up to anyone. Right now I am overwhelmed and stressed with work again. And again thinking I should leave or ask to reduce hours. I dont want to make a hasty decision when I am feeling ill though. Mr S is as always fully supportive of whatever I choose which I am eternally grateful for and count my blessings daily...along with feeling guilty for being such a loser.

Anyway, sorry to ramble on. I feel uncomfortable even putting that out there but guess discomfort is the start of healing maybe.

Hello darling!!!
C'mere - I think you said you are 90 days off the grog recently? Is it the same period for the pills? Was just looking up re. the aftershock of opiates and it sounds like it could well be - tho would expect to be clearing up by the 3 month mark - but as regards the grog - well I had a huge slump around that period - NOT on this quit - I had the advantage of the period in treatment so I was prepared really well for the feelings/thoughts/emotions and yes - depression really -- - but on previous quits it was extremely low.... but it passed - dunno how long it took but it did - and I felt super from then on - with a short period around the 9 month mark where I was vitamin deficient and got that sorted then......

but yes yes yes - talk it out - what harm can it do? - and we are always around to listen xxxx

[starty]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

Thank you both for your replies. Very much appreciated and welcomed.
Vits and supps taken already regularly Stirly. I dont think I would be able to reduce just for the month. The business has just expanded again and as ever it is all hands to the pump. It is more a long term thing that I need to consider but must do it while trying to recover.

Molls, 98 off the grog and 14 off the pills (fell yet again). I think you are right with the 3, 6, 9 periods I have also read something about it. I do think it is the opiates that is the hardest just now. I also realise it will pass. I need a plan. I think up till now I have just figured dont use and all will be well. Very naive (sp) and I should really know that. My short term plan is not to do alot other than the necessary. I am afraid of the depression but know I must accept it if I want to get through it.

Lovely ladies, you have made me feel better so thank you xxxxxxx

[starty]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

An example of how I physically feel just now is I cannot even wash my hair. No energy whatsoever. So will have to go into work smelling like an old sheep

[mollyka]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

Thank you both for your replies. Very much appreciated and welcomed.
Vits and supps taken already regularly Stirly. I dont think I would be able to reduce just for the month. The business has just expanded again and as ever it is all hands to the pump. It is more a long term thing that I need to consider but must do it while trying to recover.

Molls, 98 off the grog and 14 off the pills (fell yet again). I think you are right with the 3, 6, 9 periods I have also read something about it. I do think it is the opiates that is the hardest just now. I also realise it will pass. I need a plan. I think up till now I have just figured dont use and all will be well. Very naive (sp) and I should really know that. My short term plan is not to do alot other than the necessary. I am afraid of the depression but know I must accept it if I want to get through it.

Lovely ladies, you have made me feel better so thank you xxxxxxx

ahhh - 14 days - I'd put money on it that it's the pills then - that's the time period that they say is the worst... the reason I seem a bit knowledgeable is that Joe was given a HUGE pack of Tylex -- 200 pills and the codeine content is very high - 30mg(?) or whatever the measure is - and out of curiousity I googled to see how long he'd be taking 200 of them would he be addicted.... too bloody right he would - crazy amount - anyway - they are disposed of and he's quit them altogether - so only 8 were taken in total! no wonder people get addicted to prescription and over the counter drugs... mind you - he was given two separate scripts by two different docs so I think he was only s'posed to get 100 -- still far too many methinks!! anyway - yes - prime withdrawal period would be the 2 week period.... muddle through another few days and I'm guessing you'll feel a lot better -- hope so!!!

[mollyka]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

An example of how I physically feel just now is I cannot even wash my hair. No energy whatsoever. So will have to go into work smelling like an old sheep

ah I've worked with worse than old sheep in my day:welldone:

[starty]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

Oh god that is so much codeine! They say that more than 3 days usage can cause addiction. Terrifying and so glad he did not take them. It is a terrible addiction.

I missed what he did to his leg? What happened?

[mollyka]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

Oh god that is so much codeine! They say that more than 3 days usage can cause addiction. Terrifying and so glad he did not take them. It is a terrible addiction.

I missed what he did to his leg? What happened?

He broke it (his foot) in 3 places last June on a bike trip to Scotland - and it just didn't heal - so they re-broke it on Wed and put in a bone implant and some screws and a plate or something - so now he's back in a cast for 6 weeks - it could be me needing the codeine at the end of the 6 weeks:egad:

[starty]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

Shite, I hope it heals OK. When I broke my leg on a horse I was lucky not to lose it. Fingers crossed he heals well. Yes you will be needing summat if he is home bound

[mollyka]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

I think it'll work this time - the xrays look good apparently!!

[starty]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

If he looks after himself sure he will be fine!

Was anyone scared of themselves in early recovery? eg scared of what you might do?

[mollyka]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

Like what? Relapse sort of thing?