Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

[JackieClaire]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

I'm scared Molls - that he's never going to be able to stop - and end up in the gutter.

Here's the scenario in my head :
He's the drunk son and I'm that cliched mother I've hated who puts up with it - 'cos I don't want to see him on the street.
And then I will die from the stress of it - no-one will want him and he'll die like this poor 41 year old alcoholic the other day.
His brother said : (and it scares me it's so close to home ......)


Brother of man found dead at Tallaght Hospital questions how his brother wasn't noticed for hours

Ahh sweetheart, have you told him this in the time he's sober. I wish I could take this away for you even just for half an hour and when you feel you do then repeat.........it is not my fault..........because it is not your fault. He's still of an age when he thinks death through drinking happens to some one else. Like Molls says get him to a meeting everyday..........there may be one or more occasions when something will resonate with him. The more he goes he'll get info on free counsellors, doctors with a good reputation with alkies. He may prefer NA........as alcohol is his drug of choice and they're slightly younger crowd.

[JackieClaire]

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And Molly, :hug:,so sorry you're going through this anxiety. I tend to try and make jokes about just about everything in my life even when its going badly..........but anxiety is shit.
The doctor the other week recommended an app for your phone with a 10 minute relaxation exercise on it, she uses it, but can't remember for the life of me what its called.

Found it......called Head Space.

[RunningCourage]

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Morning troops.

Thanks for the good lucks for Whizzy and me (well done [MENTION=5052]anon[/MENTION] !!). It was brutal. I.e. brutally hot... not used to it, being a scotsman, who's more akin to running in sub-zero temps :haha:

Molls - so good to see you back. And hope that whatever anxieties area tasking you are soon kicked into the long grass. JC's recommendation of Head Space is good - i've got it on my phone as someone recommended using it in class with kids.
[MENTION=9094]satz123[/MENTION] - :hug: Really sorry to hear the young 'un is drinking again. I agree with JC that the long term affects of AL he may not fully really realise - in his head he may get it, but not deep down. I only say that cos I play with that idea too. Being of a similar age, one of the reasons I tried to cut down/give up initially was the long term consequences, BUT when I have drunk - one drink, or a bit more of a session - the long term consequences are put to the back of my mind. Or the mind plays games such as thinking, "well any damage i can rectify later... but not right now" ... which i presume is the addicts mind talking.

Splitting headache here - NOT AL... simply dehydrated and in need of a day off... but alas, better get prepping for skool.

Big waves to all

Laters -

[starty]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

Satz i had the same fear about my dad and carried it for years. My mum got a cout injunction so he could not come near us and he had to sort himself out. Its a hugely long story but in essence he did not end up on the streets as I feared for many years. When you are in dire straits or as we addicts like to call it rock bottom, survival mode kicks in and we save ourselves. As you know that is the only way we get better. It is the hardest thing in the world for both addict and families and guilt is so tough to bear

[starty]

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Huge congratulations RC much admiration for doing that

[mollyka]

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And Molly, :hug:,so sorry you're going through this anxiety. I tend to try and make jokes about just about everything in my life even when its going badly..........but anxiety is shit.
The doctor the other week recommended an app for your phone with a 10 minute relaxation exercise on it, she uses it, but can't remember for the life of me what its called.

Found it......called Head Space.

The main reason I had to take a break is precisely the 'making joke's ' - I can't do that - its not me and I can't pretend - I have to be me all the time - can't put on an act so was going to drag you down

Well done arsey - and I agree how we can keep extending the day of reckoning in our head re. our health - that's why that woman - the ambassadors wife who had never been drunk - resonated with me BIG time - she was only in her 40's when she developed cirrhosis -

[starty]

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The main reason I had to take a break is precisely the 'making joke's ' - I can't do that - its not me and I can't pretend - I have to be me all the time - can't put on an act so was going to drag you down

Well done arsey - and I agree how we can keep extending the day of reckoning in our head re. our health - that's why that woman - the ambassadors wife who had never been drunk - resonated with me BIG time - she was only in her 40's when she developed cirrhosis -

Hey molls its me who has the monopoly of dragging everyone down :haha:

[mollyka]

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Hey molls its me who has the monopoly of dragging everyone down :haha:

Haha!! DEFFO not! We missed the squirrel:welldone:

[JackieClaire]

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[MENTION=5052]anon[/MENTION] .......big round of applause :welldone:........Mr JC saw you cross the line, he'll be asking for your autograph next.

[MENTION=18049]RunningCourage[/MENTION].......and another round of applause to you. :welldone:

Blooming stars the pair of yis.

[Jude58]

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Haha!! DEFFO not! We missed the squirrel:welldone:

See Molls, your sense of humor is coming back......good to see!

[anon]

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Just back from that London.I had a ball as it was so hot I just ran/ walked with my friends took me one and a half hours longer than my usual time. Did not want to pass out like hundreds of others around the course.
Well done RC--Twas a brutally hot day for us Northerners, I managed to drink 4 litres of water--always was a heavy drinker!
Sorry to hear about young Satz I should imagine you do not know where to turn. Bloody kids !!
Hope all is well Molly--Anxiety came be so all consuming and when it stops we sometimes do not appreciate the stress free life (especially me)
Enjoy your break Starty hope everything is falling into place.
Lots of love to JC (including Mr JC) Jude , Mary, Rustop and Rusty!

[satz123]

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The main reason I had to take a break is precisely the 'making joke's ' - I can't do that - its not me and I can't pretend - I have to be me all the time - can't put on an act so was going to drag you down
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Mollers, Mollers, Mollers ........ you won't ever pull us down...... we all have good & bad in our lives. I'd be lost without MWO for some yapping.
There's room for jokers and 'puller-downers' here. I like to think I give you lot a fair spattering of each
Sometimes I have to find the humour in something bad or pivot on to something less bad or go mad ......... I like to help people smile sometimes. It's not pretense - just trying under difficult circumstances to find something to be lighthearted about ...

[satz123]

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I understand - but for all the people who end up in dire straits there are so many who get themselves sorted - the key is for him to truly realise it can't go on - at the moment unfortunately - it can - he's manipulated you and Mr S exactly how he needs you - worried enough that you will let him drink and he still has a roof over his head - however I see why you are doing it - and I don't know that I would be able to do otherwise either - but time might tell - its not that long since he had a salary and there was drink in the house ( or shed!) - and now that's all gone - so presumably life isn't as convenient as it was? Don't despair - but maybe Insist that he at least attends meetings every day if he's to be allowed stay at home? Something or somebody there might make sense to him? Xxx

Thanks Molls :hug:- I have taken that & run with it. He seems to have taken it seriously & has agreed.

[satz123]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

Ahh sweetheart, have you told him this in the time he's sober. I wish I could take this away for you even just for half an hour and when you feel you do then repeat.........it is not my fault..........because it is not your fault. He's still of an age when he thinks death through drinking happens to some one else. Like Molls says get him to a meeting everyday..........there may be one or more occasions when something will resonate with him. The more he goes he'll get info on free counsellors, doctors with a good reputation with alkies. He may prefer NA........as alcohol is his drug of choice and they're slightly younger crowd.

AND this [MENTION=7008]JackieClaire[/MENTION] - thank you for the advice :hug:

[Rusty]

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Good Afternoon, Army!

Molly-anxiety is such a drag and I can empathize with you...you've probably been feeling like you want to crawl out of your skin. It is so awful..I've suffered from severe anxiety since I was 4 years old. I don't blame you for taking a break from here to focus on what was important at home. Thanks for coming back. I missed you.