Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

[mollyka]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

We all do Satz. My heart goes out to you. He is your child and of course you don’t want to see him on the streets. However he is also an adult and sometimes we have to detach. Not easy, I know but just remember you have an army in your corner . As Molly said yesterday they are like boomerangs they keep coming back. Lots more peace when they are out of the nest imo

Off for a bit of retail therapy.

Oh Rusters how true - I have 4 'kids' - but two of them have lived away since forever - and I'm sure they have their ups and downs - in fact I know they do - but generally because it's not in my face I let most of it drift past me - but the other two who are here - it's constant -- and even when there isn't a worry - I worry that there might be a worry - it's ridiculous - but it's true!!

Morning,
I like the idea of making a video when he's in full flow, Molls. Show him when he's sober though. Let him move out and tell him to leave his keys.

I had no idea the terror that Mr JC had every night he came home thinking he would find me dead on the floor until after I got sober. How could I do that to a man who loves me whole heartedly.

I was the one who was going to leave if I didn't get the support at home.........I told the kids and Mr JC that sobriety was my first and foremost priority........it still is.

Sorry, just a few ramblings there.

I couldn't imagine managing all this recovery lark without support - well maybe NOW - cos it's just the way I live - there's no if's or but's about it - but certainly for the first few years - not that I would have gone back drinking - I knew this time that was not going to happen - but it just would have seemed like an obstacle course I think...
anyway - I'm rambling now

Started on the filling of the freezer - it's quite good fun - the key for me will be keeping it organised - I'm not good at that - I'm inclined to just peg things in 'oh I'll remember what that is' -- yeah --- right!!!??

[mollyka]

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Molls - :hug: thank you.
Y'ya know - I was just thinking as I got up the morning that very thing. I need to protect my sobriety - does anyone, except here, give a shit about it.
Mr S really had it easy with me - I had decided to stop before he really realised the extent of it. I was VERY good at hiding from him. That is why he's reeling now at the deviousness, lies, destruction & shite talk that he is seeing.
I keep finding bottles etc - 'cos I know where to look ..... been there done that ......

Xpost Benjy - yes he did have it easy - and funny enough - so did Joe - he's told me numerous times now that he really hadn't a clue - I was THE best hider and sneaker - very accomplished!!! The kids recognised far more than he did - he just thought that I sometimes drank a few more than I should - no clue of the hidden bottles - early evening drinking before he came home from work -- none of it really - so it's no harm for Mr S to have some understanding now of addiction - but not to the extent that it should be under your roof -- I really would like to think I would have to draw the line at that... pray god he gets a job Benj - it'd solve a lot for you

[starty]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

I have never asked for support from anyone and totally accepted it is all down to me. I wonder if that makes me less sympathetic to those who continue to slip up ( that includes me in my numorous failings) i think the video is a great idea. Seeing yourself in all your glory in the cold light of day would certainly be a wake up call

Anyone tried hrt ? I am really struggling with what i think must be menopause if it is not diabetes or something else. Thought i would sleep better being away from work but still up every 2 hours and cant nap like i used to and it is messing with my mental health so need to do something

[JackieClaire]

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Evening ramblers,
[MENTION=22456]starty[/MENTION].........wish I could help but I was warned off HRT by one of my older cousins......it affects bone density and eventually you have to stop taking it and the menopause symptoms come back. The Black Kohosh worked like a dream for me.

[starty]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

Thanks jax i will put it on my list to try along with ladycare magnets. Did you get low mood ?

How is your back and anxiety?

[mollyka]

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Sorry Starty - no help here either - sailed through menopause in 24 hours - less actually -- whereas my sister lost about 10 years of her life - we couldn't have taken HRT even if we'd wanted to tho cos my mum had had breast cancer - Evening all! Came home and Joe's sick again - for a man who was hardly ever sick in his life I'm really quite worried about him - 3 times in 3 weeks - vomiting - shivering - freezing cold -- I dunno - weird -- Joey came up with an idea - that cos Joe has no idea what pain is - he doesn't 'know' how to describe lots of pain for instance - maybe he's in more pain from his foot than he's letting on and his system is fighting it -- nonsense? I dunno#
Anyway - got to go and do my Florence so talk later xx

[JackieClaire]

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Crikey, Molls, the poor love. Go and do the soothing thing and perhaps time for the doctor.

Thanks jax i will put it on my list to try along with ladycare magnets. Did you get low mood ?

How is your back and anxiety?

Anxiety seems to have passed ........touch wood. The back is still awful. Today I've written down when when the pain's at its worst, where its located, what drugs I'm using........co-codamel every 6 hours and inbetween ibuprofen in between. I'm terrible for getting into the surgery and slapping a smile on my face and saying I'm fine, really fine hoping he can read my mind........so I'm just giving him my list.

I remember being full of anger at the most trivial things not the low moods.

Oh and try Holland and Barret.......they're doing a sleep clinic type thing at the moment.

[RunningCourage]

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hello peeps - quick squizz in - [MENTION=9094]satz123[/MENTION], sorry to hear about the young un'... and glad that there is such sound advice offered here in the army. Interesting reading about so many of you saying how you hid it - early evening drinks, hiding bottles etc. Interesting cos I know that's what I did a wee bit. I mind when i shared a flat - back about 5+yrs ago, and would put empty cans in the wardrobe (i'd be in me room drinking)...ashamed as i was that i was drinking on my todd and perhaps the amount too... similar with being at my folks and if i've been allowing myself to fall off the wagon... the sly cans by the bedside. Maybe only 2 or 3, but still done in secrecy.
[MENTION=7008]JackieClaire[/MENTION] - thinking of you and hoping the back is sorted asap and that your mind is read.

Molls - how's Joe? He seen a doc about not feeling so great? Reckon it's a virus? Hope it fecks off pronto for him.

Hello everyone else. Off to leaba -

[starty]

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Good move with the list easier and more reliable than memory. Hope it helps tomorrow

Is joe taking any painkillers? They can have those effects.

Hi rc hope all is well

[starty]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

I was in h&b yest got some magnesium ��

[mollyka]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

Good move with the list easier and more reliable than memory. Hope it helps tomorrow

Is joe taking any painkillers? They can have those effects.

Hi rc hope all is well

Nope wouldn't touch them - never takes anything - hey Rsey - I reckon the first time we aim to deceive anyone about any drink we are in problem drinking territory - didn't do that till latter years

[IamMary]

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Evening,

ITs funny when someone says something here, and you've never actually thought about it that way:

Molls - :hug: thank you.
Y'ya know - I was just thinking as I got up the morning that very thing. I need to protect my sobriety - does anyone, except here, give a shit about it.
Mr S really had it easy with me - I had decided to stop before he really realised the extent of it. I was VERY good at hiding from him.

I did admit to Mr M that the empty expensive gin and vodka bottles were actually me, by way of explaining that I really did think I had some kind of a problem - but I left it there. I never told him on how many times I refilled them. Or all the other bottles.
I often wonder what would happen if I announced that I wanted to have a drink, would he run out and get a few bottles without question..probably.

Interesting reading about so many of you saying how you hid it - early evening drinks, hiding bottles etc. Interesting cos I know that's what I did a wee bit. I mind when i shared a flat - back about 5+yrs ago, and would put empty cans in the wardrobe (i'd be in me room drinking)...ashamed as i was that i was drinking on my todd and perhaps the amount too..

I was doing this in the early days too RC. In a shared flat with mates. Couldnt wait to go to bed for my medicine!

Cant help you on the HRT yet [MENTION=22456]starty[/MENTION]. When are you back at the docs??

Half is in Donabate Molly. Getting a bit nervey now..

Good luck tomorrow in the docs [MENTION=7008]JackieClaire[/MENTION].. sounds nasty.

[mollyka]

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Morning - was just thinking - you Mary and Arsey and any other young'uns hanging round here - you deffo are in the right place - first time I ever had a sneaky or inappropriate drink was the day of the millennium - I was 44 and quite a good few years after i was still shocked at myself having a drink then - AND hiding it - so I reckon I was near 50 before I was downing an extra glass of wine before going out or in the kit hen on the sly - you younger folk do need to grab a hold of this - so glad you are - saving yourselves a lot of grief down the road xxx

[rustop59]

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Amen to that Molly. Wish I had started 20/30 years earlier. You younger ones are right to deal with it earlier rather than later. Good luck today JC. Summer wardrobe all sorted. Got few pairs of three quarter length trousers, sandals and two tops, happ6 days!

[mollyka]

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Oh and in case that sounds like my drinking was within safe health limits all those years - no - not at all - always drank a lot when I was out with friends or entertaining - but I do pinpoint the problematic drinking crossing a bad line the first time I hid a drink