Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

[mollyka]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

[MENTION=7008]JackieClaire[/MENTION]. We've driven with an exhaust actually tied up with string back in the day :haha:
They can weld it ?

Hah!!! So have we !!! Wonder is that an irish thing:welldone:

[RunningCourage]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

[MENTION=18049]RunningCourage[/MENTION] :hug:
What you want to do next ?
Did you fall catastrophically off the wagon ?
How did you feel ?

Get back here & post. You don't have to be sober to post here ya know?

Yo, yo Doc.

As to what to do next - in practical terms, it's simple: it's the hols - so i can "get away" with drinking. Come next term I have little doubt that i'll be back on the wagon, or most definitely not drinking during the week. Because I don;t want to be. Because I want my focus to be on what I can do as a teacher, as a person... not on a wee hit I can give myself at night.

Fall catastrophically - not as such. Em.. suppose it's kinda relative... it was a bit black and white...as in i went straight back to where I was in Dec/Jan... but tbh, i kinda expected that, as I was kinda 'wanting' that: i.e. I didn't want "a drink with dinner", I wanted to get pleasantly drunk (by myself?!?)... not to the point that I'd totally screw the next day, but certainly feeling the effects of having drunk the night before.

How did I feel? A bit odd - guilty? - weak? - not worthy? - YET, it also felt normal. A pint. In the pub.

The reason I said I didn't want to speak about it is essentially because what i was coming to feel was that ACTUALLY, I was living a more negative life... It's difficult to explain... basically other negative elements of how I live life became more acute. If AL is part of my life, yes it IS negative in how it can affect me emotionally/psychologically but it also muffles other negative aspects of my thinking/being. Which, ironically, perhaps benefits me.

SORRY - that was so fecking cryptic. Never a great fan if others do that, cos yer like "eh, wtf is she/he speaking about?!?!"

[Have had a few beers. Just being honest.]

Molls, JC, Stirly - mucho thanks for your thoughts and words - ALWAYS appreciated. :hug:

[satz123]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

The reason I said I didn't want to speak about it is essentially because what i was coming to feel was that ACTUALLY, I was living a more negative life... It's difficult to explain... basically other negative elements of how I live life became more acute. If AL is part of my life, yes it IS negative in how it can affect me emotionally/psychologically but it also muffles other negative aspects of my thinking/being. Which, ironically, perhaps benefits me.

Believe it or not - I think I get it RC.
This is debatable but I do believe it is SO much more difficult for a single man like you and young Satz to quit and stay quit than us older folks who are settled and content with life. We've had a long innings.
We are done striving to build careers & relationships etc and all that goes with that..... this is IMVHO !

So I applaud you in your trying :applause:

[mollyka]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

Up in Navan hospital - so here we go!!

[satz123]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

Good luck Joe !!

[JackieClaire]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

Stand back........I'm in sick bay.

Best of luck to Joe.

The car's 15 years old and we've had it 6.........yep we used string......but just had a call to say it can be fixed and will be back without the hideous rattling tonight.

When I'm feeling better we'll get to the bottom of this, Arsey (no pun intended).

[rustop59]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

Good luck Joe !!

Good luck Joe and Molly. Hanging around hospitals is no fun. Presume he is getting his foot seen to? Have not had a chance to read back yet. Been a busy weekend but weather was fab, apart from Monday. West got the best of it for a change. Fabulous hike on Sunday so all in all good weekend. Back at work yesterday so have not had a minute. Will have a read back now with my coffee. Made excuses to myself yesterday about not having time to post. Not a good plan to start distancing myself. Need to keep myself accountable and keep checking in. Glad I recognized it for what it was.

[satz123]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

When I'm feeling better we'll get to the bottom of this, Arsey (no pun intended).

:hahaha:

[satz123]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

[MENTION=18049]RunningCourage[/MENTION].
So you drank because you were on holiday? Now you are drinking every day ?
Is that REALLY what you want ?
Is a few pints in the pub enough ? or do you top up at home ?
This may be simplistic but in my world this is where we differ from 'normies' - we never seem to have enough. And realistically alcohol is a tiny part of life as a whole but we make it HUGE because of our addiction to it. Socially, it is unacceptable to drink every day to excess. Maybe if all of us were put on an island we'd be grand. Maybe one a day dying ?

This is why we have to stop - before we do damage. My doctor the other day told me he is dealing with a 41 year old who is still holding down a Government job - but "drinking himself to death" every day alone in his apartment. If he didn't have the Government job he'd have hit the bottom sooner & be dead by now.
He has developed cirrhosis of the liver - all that's left is a transplant.
The doc suggested a psychologist for young Satz to get to the bottom of WHY he drinks - because of the continuous relapses and living as a 'dry drunk'.

Sorry for rambling - just putting down what's in my head ............ :egad:

[Mick]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

good luck Molls at the hozzy ,Jacs you get better too.Satzy hows you doing ..hiya Rc and Rustop

[satz123]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

good luck Molls at the hozzy ,Jacs you get better too.Satzy hows you doing ..hiya Rc and Rustop

Yo young Michael ..... all good in your world ?

[mollyka]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

Afternoon - and hiya Mick... good to see you round here!!! - Just back from the hospital - he was going down to get the job done when I left and I still haven't heard from him - but guessing if he'd died or anything they'd have contacted me haha!!! only joking of course - they decided not to give him a general anaesthetic cos they can administer better pain relief afterwards with an epidural apparently - so guessing he's floating on a morphine cloud as we speak!!!
Two things - #1 - they told him that they had never encountered a 65 year old who had no medical history whatsoever - had no GP for the same reason - had never taken medication for anything - ever - and if I hadn't been there corroborating the info. they'd have 'dug deeper' (their words for lying haha!!!)
#2 - place full of English people - apparently our health care is far superior to theirs and they get it free - the man in Joe's room said the waiting list for his procedure on the NHS was 4 years and in Ireland it was a few months... and he said lots of folks are horrified by Brexit cos they won't be able to access the same treatment --- WHO'DA THUNK????

[satz123]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

Afternoon - and hiya Mick... good to see you round here!!! - Just back from the hospital - he was going down to get the job done when I left and I still haven't heard from him - but guessing if he'd died or anything they'd have contacted me haha!!! only joking of course - they decided not to give him a general anaesthetic cos they can administer better pain relief afterwards with an epidural apparently - so guessing he's floating on a morphine cloud as we speak!!!

Laughed out loud at that :hahaha:

[satz123]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

#1 - they told him that they had never encountered a 65 year old who had no medical history whatsoever - had no GP for the same reason - had never taken medication for anything - ever - and if I hadn't been there corroborating the info. they'd have 'dug deeper' (their words for lying haha!!!)

I have one of them specimens here too Molls. Didn't have a doctor till last week - his knee giving him gip.
Maybe there is something to learn from them ?
Or is it us treating them too well ?

[mollyka]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! April 2018

[MENTION=18049]RunningCourage[/MENTION].
So you drank because you were on holiday? Now you are drinking every day ?
Is that REALLY what you want ?
Is a few pints in the pub enough ? or do you top up at home ?
This may be simplistic but in my world this is where we differ from 'normies' - we never seem to have enough. And realistically alcohol is a tiny part of life as a whole but we make it HUGE because of our addiction to it. Socially, it is unacceptable to drink every day to excess. Maybe if all of us were put on an island we'd be grand. Maybe one a day dying ?

This is why we have to stop - before we do damage. My doctor the other day told me he is dealing with a 41 year old who is still holding down a Government job - but "drinking himself to death" every day alone in his apartment. If he didn't have the Government job he'd have hit the bottom sooner & be dead by now.
He has developed cirrhosis of the liver - all that's left is a transplant.
The doc suggested a psychologist for young Satz to get to the bottom of WHY he drinks - because of the continuous relapses and living as a 'dry drunk'.

Sorry for rambling - just putting down what's in my head ............ :egad:

Like I said recently - that woman I saw on tele all those years ago who had cirrhosis - she had never been drunk - the quantities 'necessary' to cause irreversible liver damage are (in our terms -- addicts terms) positively small - two pints of beer a day or 3 teenchy glasses of wine a day over a period of time is enough.... add a binge or two in there occasionally and apparently there is an epidemic of young people just in waiting to join the liver damage brigade... scary stuff
Is Young S going to see someone? Does he want to?