Join up!! Army against the grog !!! May 2018

[starty]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! May 2018

And wtf is a succulent :haha:

[mollyka]

Re: Join up!! Army against the grog !!! May 2018

Do you mind me asking your age? I am just coming up to 55 and really feel confused. I feel bored sometimes but also dont really know what I like to do to relax or hobbies. I cant run any more and other exercise hurts a bit and I am not keen on gardening (just tried to do some or cooking and the like. I feel like the most boring person alive at times

I'm 61 Starts - and I guess it's really in the last 5 years that I've been allowed to accept my loner tendencies - what helped really was that Joe quit the booze as well as me and whereas I WOULD go to the pub if necessary and quite enjoy it for an hour or so - he hates going now - so it's never an issue... and it took me YEARS of sobriety before I refound interest in what I used to love -- reading, cooking, gardening, swimming -- and DOING NOTHING................. love that ;-) Don't push yourself too much Starty - just being sober and clean at the beginning is enough

Never saw that plant before Jacks

[starty]

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I'm 61 Starts - and I guess it's really in the last 5 years that I've been allowed to accept my loner tendencies - what helped really was that Joe quit the booze as well as me and whereas I WOULD go to the pub if necessary and quite enjoy it for an hour or so - he hates going now - so it's never an issue... and it took me YEARS of sobriety before I refound interest in what I used to love -- reading, cooking, gardening, swimming -- and DOING NOTHING................. love that ;-) Don't push yourself too much Starty - just being sober and clean at the beginning is enough

Never saw that plant before Jacks

More wise words! Thank you. I must stop panicking. Its always something isnt it. Feeling so ill and worrying about that, then feeling better and then worrying about what to do next! Do you or Joe see friends etc?

[mollyka]

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Not much - my friends are also my work colleagues - separated ruthlessly from drinking mates - most of whom I reckon had drink issues too tbh - Joe was never much a 'friend' person - my friends were his friends really - but as a couple we've always been each other's best friend so sort of self sufficient I spose - and I don't say that's the right way - it's just how we've always been

[starty]

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Not much - my friends are also my work colleagues - separated ruthlessly from drinking mates - most of whom I reckon had drink issues too tbh - Joe was never much a 'friend' person - my friends were his friends really - but as a couple we've always been each other's best friend so sort of self sufficient I spose - and I don't say that's the right way - it's just how we've always been

EXACTLY the same as me and Rich. Although we have had our problems we have been together for about 35 years and have done everything together and he is the same as Joe re the friend stuff.

[mollyka]

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EXACTLY the same as me and Rich. Although we have had our problems we have been together for about 35 years and have done everything together and he is the same as Joe re the friend stuff.

I think it probably leaves the likes of us more vulnerable in years to come - if one of us dies... crikey it'll be lonely then I s'pose - but I dunno - I've always been content in my own company - sort of like an only child growing up (my sisters were so much older than me - I hardly knew them really) - don't want mates just for the sake of having them... and god forbid I'd ever be someone who needs to have 595 million 'friends' on FB or something!!!! And yes we've had our problems in the past for sure - but reckon we're better with than without them huh??? ;-)

[starty]

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I think it probably leaves the likes of us more vulnerable in years to come - if one of us dies... crikey it'll be lonely then I s'pose - but I dunno - I've always been content in my own company - sort of like an only child growing up (my sisters were so much older than me - I hardly knew them really) - don't want mates just for the sake of having them... and god forbid I'd ever be someone who needs to have 595 million 'friends' on FB or something!!!! And yes we've had our problems in the past for sure - but reckon we're better with than without them huh??? ;-)

Yes I worry about that alot. My brother is a social person. If he hasnt seen at least 2 sets of friends at the weekend it has been a crap weekend. At his 50th he had tables for folk from each fucking decade!! FFS we could not be more different :haha:
Defo better with than without.

Energy has crashed now and I am exhausted. Got my blood tests back yest no diabetes insipidus thankfully so it must be menopause or PAWS or both. Either way it is a pain in the hole

[JackieClaire]

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And wtf is a succulent :haha:

Posh word for a cactus without spiky bits. Take very little looking after.......I love cactuses (or is it cacti)as well .....They can do heat or cold so ideal for a conservatory.

Get a Mother of 1000s.......they are amazing.

Ach, Molls, you're a bairn.

[mollyka]

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Energy has crashed now and I am exhausted. Got my blood tests back yest no diabetes insipidus thankfully so it must be menopause or PAWS or both. Either way it is a pain in the hole

Starty - I was the best part of a year (on this quit -- ) living on adrenaline - my life had fallen apart really and having to go (or just going - I didn't HAVE to go) to treatment really seemed like the lowest ebb possible - so I was probably about 9-10 months sober before I began to notice my body and how I was feeling - I had concentrated on my mind up to that -- but once I started paying attention I realised how shagging tired I was... constantly exhausted -- drained... and also disorientated a bit --sort of muzzy -- now the muzziness and disorientation were down to a lack of B12 - which righted itself very quickly --but the exhaustion didn't so I don't think that was down to the B12 - tbh I went on feeling that tiredness on and off for a good 18 months - and even longer before any enthusiasm re. 'doing' things returned - hard to explain really -- dunno if it's the same for you - but it did lift - that tiredness - and now - well now I reckon I have more energy than any time in the last 20 years ... but jeez it did take a while... as I say - probably nothing like what you have - but just relating my experience... xx

[starty]

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Posh word for a cactus without spiky bits. Take very little looking after.......I love cactuses (or is it cacti)as well .....They can do heat or cold so ideal for a conservatory.

Get a Mother of 1000s.......they are amazing.

Ach, Molls, you're a bairn.

I have 2 plants in my house. One I have no idea what it is but we have had it for 20 years and just prune it or it would take over the hall. We call it Herman and the other is a Christmas cactus I think. The next door neighbour gave it to us when he was moving out and didnt want to take it. I water them every couple of weeks and I think i have changed herman's earth once. God knows how they are still alive but they are

[starty]

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Starty - I was the best part of a year (on this quit -- ) living on adrenaline - my life had fallen apart really and having to go (or just going - I didn't HAVE to go) to treatment really seemed like the lowest ebb possible - so I was probably about 9-10 months sober before I began to notice my body and how I was feeling - I had concentrated on my mind up to that -- but once I started paying attention I realised how shagging tired I was... constantly exhausted -- drained... and also disorientated a bit --sort of muzzy -- now the muzziness and disorientation were down to a lack of B12 - which righted itself very quickly --but the exhaustion didn't so I don't think that was down to the B12 - tbh I went on feeling that tiredness on and off for a good 18 months - and even longer before any enthusiasm re. 'doing' things returned - hard to explain really -- dunno if it's the same for you - but it did lift - that tiredness - and now - well now I reckon I have more energy than any time in the last 20 years ... but jeez it did take a while... as I say - probably nothing like what you have - but just relating my experience... xx

Interesting Molls. My b12 is fine so it is back to the old chestnut call patience I suppose. Still, I am noticing improvements throughout the day and I am working on acceptance and going with the flow. Have heard that WD symptoms can last up to 2 years. Really hope that is not the case but if it is, I have to accept it. Done the crime now do the time sort of thing

[mollyka]

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I have 2 plants in my house. One I have no idea what it is but we have had it for 20 years and just prune it or it would take over the hall. We call it Herman and the other is a Christmas cactus I think. The next door neighbour gave it to us when he was moving out and didnt want to take it. I water them every couple of weeks and I think i have changed herman's earth once. God knows how they are still alive but they are

Well now -- here's a true story (I'll make it brief!!!) bout a house plant -- don't like them tbh BUT - my mum always had this pretty damn ugly thing - called an aspidistra I think - and she used to tell me all the generations of the plant going back and how the family have kept it going since like forever - when mum was alive she gave me a son or daughter of her one and I fecked it out in the garden - couldn't stand the sight of it - but after she died I felt mad guilty and brought it in and now I mind it and it's fairly healthy looking - but part of the story that I remember is that it was a great great great (loads of greats) aunt who seemed to start off the plant - and her name was a Miss Stevenson - and she was close relation (sister or aunt) of Robert Louis Stevenson.... so there...... that's my plant story haha!!!

yes I would believe that there are very long term effects of alcohol withdrawal - and so as not to frighten anyone who hasn't been through this - you were sober longer than I am now so you've really walked the walk - the effects are milder and less noticeable - and in the end you only notice they are there when they are gone so to speak - it's now in hindsight with lots of energy I realise how long I didn't have any...
Don't overthink Starts - you're doing all you can do at this stage - and looking at the job as a potential trigger.... that is good too - you may find with longer sobriety that you will be more able for the stresses of the job and it won't be such an issue - or that you should tell them to stuff it -- you will be strong enough in your head to make that choice xxx

[satz123]

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Fierce yappin' going on here ...........
Saw the Ma after work and she's lepping around :hyper: - loving the attention ......... just needed some hydration & the right antibiotic to bring her back.
Still demented but happily demented :haha:

I LOVE plants - they are everywhere in the house...... even half-dead ones I can't bear to throw out .... I nurse them back to health.

[mollyka]

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So glad she's happy benj i think old people sad is just the worst - delighted!!!!

House plants to me are like animals in zoo's!!
In the bed now - busy day tomorrow bbq promised to the masses!! Jaysus

[JackieClaire]

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[MENTION=9094]satz123[/MENTION]....glad your mum's feeling better. Bet she's tucking into the hospital grub as well.

I have absolutely no success with houseplants that's why I get cactuses........it just wouldn't be fair as they'd only last about a fortnight if they were lucky..........I do have a large fake spider plant in a big pedestal planter.....once caught my Gran watering it. She also liked to wash the cups and saucers when she was here despite having a dishwasher......because according to her dishwashers don't get crockery properly clean. We just gave her a tea towel and left her to get on with it.

Oooh, Molls, so Robert Louis Stephenson might have touched your apspidistra

[MENTION=22456]starty[/MENTION]....Think of yourself as if you've had a long illness (well you have if you think about it)........don't hurry. Be kind to yourself...each day sober is a one step further to a peaceful mind and the further we get from the last binge it gets better.......but never forget what alcohol brought you to. I'm going to start coming out with cliches in a minute if I'm that tired so I'll stop.