Rehab

[TribalRose]

Perhaps I'm out of my realm here - did any of you all resort to rehab to help with your recovery?

Rose

[TribalRose]

Re: Rehab

I definitely had a wake up call via Rehab - Over & Over. It was more than being confined to a facility. They taught me things to Help when I get into the *Just Take A Drink* mode*. Pull out my daily books quite often. Nobody is holding my hand...It's a Choice.

Rose

[Mr Vervill]

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No rehab for me, this place is my rehab, lol. For whatever reason, I knew what I had to do, and did it. Took a while, but I'm getting there. Still a work in progress.

[satz123]

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Same here Mr V - this is my rehab.........
- having read & read here I knew what I had to do to get the 'normal' life I craved.
Took from January to July to gather all the tools I needed to have that Day 1.
There were some planned forays back to drinking - these only reinforced why I came to MWO in the first place. So were useful in their own way.
So I chose the sober life over the drunken one. No contest :thumbsup:

[TribalRose]

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Agreed. Ones rehab is pretty much a mental choice. Mine was not court appointed. I chose to seek additional help. Was raised in facilities so I kind of fit in. Lots of good info that I didn't know about. But in the long run..It's my choice.

Rose

[YouKayBee]

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I had several stints in rehab, whilst I did pick up tools which I used later - they were mostly an expensive holiday.

Works for some people, not others.

In the end I had to really want with with every ounce of my being and soul, even then it took me 12 months to find the right way for me - and I'd already spent 8 years trying everything else you can think of.

If you've any questions don't hesitate to ask me TR.

[TribalRose]

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YKB I don't consider rehab a holiday. I was Miserable ! It was helpful because I love reading. Lots of leaflets etc...the rest was pretty much dull. So happy that a Lot of folks get better though.

Rose

[YouKayBee]

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YKB I don't consider rehab a holiday. I was Miserable ! It was helpful because I love reading. Lots of leaflets etc...the rest was pretty much dull. So happy that a Lot of folks get better though.

Rose

Sorry I didn't mean holiday in the usual sense, I meant it was a break from usual routine - then I'd come back and at some point relapse.

[Guitarista]

Re: Rehab

I definitely had a wake up call via Rehab - Over & Over. It was more than being confined to a facility. They taught me things to Help when I get into the *Just Take A Drink* mode*. Pull out my daily books quite often. Nobody is holding my hand...It's a Choice.

Rose

Hi Rose,

I did 3 weeks of a 6 week rehab program in 2014. I left early because i was starting some study. It was a good program and i learnt some useful stuff. It was a 'dayhab' style program M-F 9-4 p.m. so you'd go home at night and hopefully practice new strategies learned out in the community. So a little different to residential rehab, but similar program. The difference with the program i did, was there was no AA or NA 12 step sessions. Rather, they were exposing us to other recovery methods, notably CBT (Cognitive behavioural therapy). e.g. Managing our thoughts and cravings. Pause! Think! before acting on my usual auto response impulse to drink. Nutrition, financial, legal, relationship issues were covered too.

I went back to drinking soon after, but it was still a useful experience. But the bottom line was the question - what do i want? The buck stops with me. Rehab or not, i already have everything i need within me. The trick for me is to choose my direction, and if that is a sober life 24/7, then i must grab hold of it with both hands and go for it with all of my heart and mind. Managing my thoughts and understanding that i tell myself a lot of rubbish based on heresay every day, and seperating myself from such thoughts knowing i dont need to believe or act on them, and that they do not define me, is helping me keep a handle on my reality (and sanity!).

I also have a lot of respect for the 12 step model, even though it often gets a bagging. It's basically a guide to learn how to live again. If i was really lost and struggling i'd give it a shot. I attend AA, NA meetings now and then, mainly for a 'recharge' and to feel a connection with my local clean and sober community. But regular meetings are not for me. I know what i have to do. The enemy is within. We all have different ways out of this mess. A combo can be useful. Online here suits me fine. Regular healthy connection and a ton of good info.

Mollyka on the Army thread is another who has done residential rehab. Like YKB, she might be good for a yap.

Keep it going!

[Booze Sucks]

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I did Ibogaine in 2015. Worked like a charm. I looked into one other rehab facilities and was disappointed that most of them didn't really have a way to treat the chemical imbalance caused by the addiction. Ibogaine was the only "re-hab" that actually seemed like it could break the addiction cycle and end the cravings (baclofen has the ability to end the cravings too, but it's more out -patient treatment rather than "re-hab"). I had No cravings, no jonesing for Al. It broke the cycle and gave me a chance to re-stucture my life and was able to stick to the plan. Its been 3 years and I am now completely indifferent to alcohol. The journey is different for everyone, but if you are considering re-hab then you might want to consider Ibogaine.

[Booze Sucks]

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There was an expose' on recovery centers recently on one of the current event comedy shows I watch (the daily show or maybe John Oliver's) It was really shocking. Many of these rehab centers are charging 50k or even 75k and there is little or no actual treatment of the underlying chemical addiction. Ibogaine cost me $6500 and it actually worked because I took an extremely powerful substance that literally changed my brain chemistry - I don't know if it was a permanent change or just a really long term effect that faded gradually allowing time for my brain to adjust and become acclimated to a non-addictive state, but bottom line is it worked. Baclofen treats the underlining chemical imbalance, Ibogaine treats the underlining condition, Passages Malibu will cost you $75,000 and they have you pet horses or something.

I mean no disrespect to anyone that may have gotten results from a 12 step program or any support group that has helped people. This forum is an excellent support group and it extremely important to have support during your recovery. If you find a support group or a recovery program that works for you awesome! I am just concerned that a lot of these so called recovery centers or de-tox centers are nothing more than a scam. They are ridiculously overpriced and are just treating and releasing the same people over and over until they OD on heroine or die from liver failure... If I went through a detox program in the US, my insurance would most likely have covered at least a portion of it, but I chose to seek help from outside the established system and paid for it myself because I wanted something with real was science behind it. Ibogaine a very powerful medicine that made real lasting changes that re-set the chemical imbalances in my brain. Baclofen has helped many because it also addresses the chemical imbalance with medicine. This seems logical to me... petting horses just didn't seem like it would ;}

-Disclaimer- Ibogaine is a very powerful substance that can cause death in certain situations. One should only detox with Ibogaine in a medically supervised setting. I started a thread on Ibogaine elsewhere on this forum. Baclophen also has dangers including seizures if the medication is suddenly stopped (and I assume death from said seizures is also possible- but not sure on that one) . There is a lot of information on the internet and this forum about baclofen. Going "cold turkey" without medical supervision is also dangerous and potentially life threatening...You can go into seizures and die. If you are dancing with Alcohol, you playing a dangerous game no matter what, but please try and be safe with your recovery. The established medical community does not know how to treat Alcohol addiction properly, but there are real medical dangers when attempting detox. Be safe and find out as much information as you can.