July Army Manoeuvres

[starty]

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Good for you!!! And you stayed so long! I always hated staying over at other people's houses - like my SIL's or cousins'. I had to pack my booze in water bottles in my luggage and hope Mr. S wouldn't go rummaging through it for something and have a sip of "water" while he was there. Oh lord, being an active alkie is so fecking tiring, it really is. Sooooo glad that is no longer the life I lead!!

I am absolutely not spending the night. I used to do that in my drinking days and hated it then but did it so we could both drink. One time we stayed at my boss' house, she let us stay in her spare room and we both sat on the bed must have been heavily as we were pissed and the whole thing shattered. Bits of wood and splinters everywhere, Mortified doesnt describe it. Another time our bed broke, I laid in it all collapsed until the following lunchtime when Mr S came home and brought me last nights cold curry in bed :haha:

[stirly-girly]

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I am absolutely not spending the night. I used to do that in my drinking days and hated it then but did it so we could both drink. One time we stayed at my boss' house, she let us stay in her spare room and we both sat on the bed must have been heavily as we were pissed and the whole thing shattered. Bits of wood and splinters everywhere, Mortified doesnt describe it. Another time our bed broke, I laid in it all collapsed until the following lunchtime when Mr S came home and brought me last nights cold curry in bed :haha:

I'm sitting here by myself laughing out loud!! Oh god, that is so funny. Your boss's house and you broke the bed. Did you just sit on it or was it drunken shenanigans that broke it? Hahaha, that is so funny!!

[starty]

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I'm sitting here by myself laughing out loud!! Oh god, that is so funny. Your boss's house and you broke the bed. Did you just sit on it or was it drunken shenanigans that broke it? Hahaha, that is so funny!!

Hehe, I I think we just both sat on it at the same time As soon as we had sobered up we scarpered at about 5 in the morning and just left a note. God, I did not want to go into work the following monday

[mollyka]

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Hiya Army!

Frankly Satz, I'd be fed up with both of them. Seriously, how can Mr. Satz expect young Satz to give up the booze when his father continues to drink. Even if it's just moderately. Can he not set an example by showing that you can watch footie or go out with friends or whatever the activity may be and NOT consume AL? Jaysus. I'd probably knock him upside the head, knowing what you've been going through with your son AND the fact that you, yourself are sober and for so long. I admire your patience with the two of them!!

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Jayzus christo, I would be tempted to divorce one and disinherit the other. That is so crap for you and I am sorry you have to live that way.

The way I would see it is that in family life we can regularly be between a rock and a hard place - because we love them (even tho we could happily KILL them sometimes) their behaviours can and will encroach on our peace of mind - but truly what can you do? The 'right' thing to do might be to read the riot act to Mr S to give up the grog --- well he ain't going to do that unless HE wants to - and yes it made my life much easier that Joe quit drinking - but if he hadn't - would I have left him or thrown him out? No of course not... and young Satz - throw him out? and worry yourself into the grave where he is and what he's doing? I don't know what I would do but I guess it might be something along the lines of ignoring and making their lives quite unpleasant - but anymore - I just dunno - I really don't:hug:

[starty]

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I agree with you molls and if it was me I dont know what I would do either. Ignoring them is good but making their lives unpleasant will also make whoever is doing the ignoring life even more unpleasant. I just feel that the total lack of support would be so hard to cope with.

[stirly-girly]

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I agree with you molls and if it was me I dont know what I would do either. Ignoring them is good but making their lives unpleasant will also make whoever is doing the ignoring life even more unpleasant. I just feel that the total lack of support would be so hard to cope with.

Again - what Starty said - and I agree with Molls. I said some time ago, Satzy, that I don't know what I'd do in your position. I think what's really necessary here is that you sit Mr. Satz down - maybe with a counselor of some sort - family, alcohol, whatever and get him to understand that you need his support 100%. I am astounded actually, that he hasn't given up the drink so as to set an example for young Satz. I mean, if he's not an alkie or a problem drinker, then how difficult can it be for him to not drink AL for a period of time as an example to young Satz and as support for you. Damn, it's like you have an obese kid in your family and his dad gobbles down an extra large pizza with extra toppings while telling the kid he needs to go on a diet. FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[stirly-girly]

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Ladies - I am off to bed. It's just after 11 here and I need to be up before 6 to start my day - have two orders to deliver to customers before I open the store at 8 a.m.

Wishing you all sweet dreams - see youz on the flip side!!!

[byebyebridgetjones]

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Thanks, [MENTION=8529]mollyka[/MENTION] and [MENTION=22456]starty[/MENTION] I worked so hard, am so sore an complaining so much that a colleague just offered me his prescription Tramadol. PMSL.

Satzy, you must get so sick of being the only grown up in that situation. I'd be so frigging cranky. It's not like your family can't be aware of the risks and issues. You must be close to losing your temper completely with both.
[MENTION=22456]starty[/MENTION] some of us just aren't party people. Actually it's amazing how many boozehounds just aren't into social stuff at all. I think a lot of us were using the grog for other reasons, even social anxiety. I wish I'd just gone to the cinema instead in my youth and bypassed this whole horrible thing.

[byebyebridgetjones]

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Ladies - I am off to bed. It's just after 11 here and I need to be up before 6 to start my day - have two orders to deliver to customers before I open the store at 8 a.m.

Wishing you all sweet dreams - see youz on the flip side!!!

Sweet dreams to you XXX

[techie]

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So lovely to see your post, Bridge xo

[starty]

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Morning Techs and Bridge

Bridge yep you are right, I think that is likely where my interest in chemical shitstorms started. Trying to fit in. It didnt work as we all know. I still dread the Christmas party. One year to avoid I threw a sicky and said I had slipped on an icy puddle and hit my head. Stupid elaborate story when a case of the shits would have done just as well :haha:

[RunningCourage]

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Morning troops.

Muggy as .. what's really muggy... uhh... dunno, but was out running at silly 0'clock this morning up a nearby hill and my phone said it was 17 degrees BEFORE 6am :egad: Nae sun, mind. Just humid.

Slowly chiselling away at this dissertation... i feel i see an end in sight ...
[MENTION=9094]satz123[/MENTION] - just thinking about your situ re Mr Satz's approach to the young 'un. Personally, being not a lot older than young satz, if it were my dad continuing to enjoy his drink, be able to have one, or a few, then leave it, not get drunk every night... then I'd see this - even unconsciously - as almost being allowed to drink: if he can do it why can't i? Also, he's my dad, he's not got a problem, so why should I? So I do think mr Satz is making it harder for all concerned, but especially young satz, to see how debilitating the young 'un's drinking is, and for young satz to really work at it.

Heck, is that the time?! Better get back to the desk... laters

[stirly-girly]

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Good morning Army and a happy Monday to all.

Arsey - 30C already as I got to the store at 9 a.m.!!

Satz - what Arsey said!

Bridget - your garden looks great. We would love to have pics later on if and when you plant it. Flowers? Veggies? There is a garden in the back of my building. Plum trees literally loaded down with plums right now. We had apricots earlier and pears. There are citrus trees as well - orange for sure, not sure about lemons. Love having a garden. All of my windows look out on the greenery. :heart:

Jackie - hope you've recovered from the Barbie!

Mary must be off on holliers - have a great time!!

Starty - I love your stories!!

Molls - hope your dry, hot spell ends. I would hate straw instead of grass in my garden.

I got to work an hour late today so that gives you some idea of how my day started!! No problem - at least I have work to go to!!

Have a great day, Troopers!!!!!!

[byebyebridgetjones]

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So lovely to see your post, Bridge xo

Oh me Gawd!!!
How are you lovely?:happy2:

[byebyebridgetjones]

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Morning Techs and Bridge

Bridge yep you are right, I think that is likely where my interest in chemical shitstorms started. Trying to fit in. It didnt work as we all know. I still dread the Christmas party. One year to avoid I threw a sicky and said I had slipped on an icy puddle and hit my head. Stupid elaborate story when a case of the shits would have done just as well :haha:

Some of my stupid stories have been so elaborate. People must have been thinking I was a mentaler.