August Army Manoevres

[starty]

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Morning...........

[MENTION=18049]RunningCourage[/MENTION]...........mounds of info on the net about the 3am phenomenon ........get googling

Why You Wake Up Early After Drinking All Night



Now this worries me. Now, believe me, please believe me............I faffed about for donkey's years trying to control my drinking so I'm talking from experience........

We can manipulate ourselves into thinking...........its not that bad..........then along comes the ............yet.

Harsh or honest..........I'm not sure how this will come across.........but Arsey.............ach I'll say it out loud ..............time to give the drink up. It takes some getting used but used to it you get..........faffing about with the 'will I.......won't I ' will give you a muddled mind at the very least......there's a constant battle going on in your head.......... that's a damned sight more stressful than just giving it away.

That is EXACTLY what I went through with pills and booze and my mental health was fecked it was all I thought about each and every day. Then when I did get my fix it was guilt followed by more craving. It is the most destructive, painful and scary roundabout I have ever been on. And it took and is taking months to properly heal.

[starty]

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I think young Satz is at this point of drinking to relax "his spinning mind" & then sleep.
His life is hell at the moment with no-one talking to him, no friends, dodgy job and I see him get up with determination every day as I did to stop. But evening changes that.
He came in last night after work - stuck his head in door to me & said sorry about yesterday (?) ate his dinner and went to bed.
Same the night before.
Add to that guilt and shame of not visiting his grandmother .....
Sometimes I'm fearful he'll do something to end the vicious circle

That is such a sad and desperate way to live. I so hope he finds his way out of it soon.

[starty]

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And for my next trick, I want to give up sugar......which is more scary than anything :egad:

[starty]

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and wait till you hear this - when Joe broke his foot last June 12 months - because he went to A&E he was in the public system and everything has been free - literally everything - hardly ever delayed or waiting for appointments - all excellent - until today - the insurance company want a medical report from a private consultant on their behalf out in a mad posh private clinic on the southside - out he goes - insurance company probably paying your man a fortune to see Joe - he was left waiting in his private rooms for 3 HOURS...….

:haha:

[starty]

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|I remember my life seeming very sad and insular at the end of my drinking but I just needed something to push me to the final rock bottom feeling - and I got it.. how long would I have fiddled and fusthered around like young Satz is if there hadn't been a catalyst.. ? I truly don't know - and we're all different - I'm guessing tho he has fully accepted his alcoholism? that in itself is something.. the part denial is the hardest bit to get over imo

I was exactly the same - couldn't see the attraction of going out Sat night to have 3 or 4 drinks (which ironically we consider UTTERLY controlled drinking - but if we do it twice a week we are over the safe limits if they are large glasses of wine for instance) like you I loved the lunchtime on hols and the at home topping up... was never gonna work for me.



Dunno why you'd expect a backlash - you've every right to your opinion anyways the same as everyone else... never read the stop smoking one - I just decided the day to quit and I quit - much easier than the drinking - rarely if ever think of them now

What was your catalyst molls? Mine was just an ongoing depression and not wanting to live that way any more. Nothing specific I dont think. Oh the first time I got al poisoning but even after that I drank then found a forum for depression and shortly after found this place

[mollyka]

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What was your catalyst molls? Mine was just an ongoing depression and not wanting to live that way any more. Nothing specific I dont think. Oh the first time I got al poisoning but even after that I drank then found a forum for depression and shortly after found this place

I've bored them all to tears with mine Starts - but in a nutshell It was really the straw that broke the camels back - a few rows with the family - at the end of my drinking because it was intermittent (trying to quit) I didn't know my limits and probably for the first times ever really I drank out of control - inappropriate times places etc... and finally Jilly was going back to Canada on 28th Dec after Christmas and had made me promise that I wouldn't be drinking over that Christmas - which I didn't - and then I did - on the 27th - that was the last time I drank - and it was really just the look of desolation on their faces... they hadn't a clue what to do really -- so I agreed to go into treatment and the rest as they say - is history - at that stage I don't think even alcoholic poisoning would have stopped me... but it really was just culmulative -- the 'end' in itself was insignificant - it was the sequence of events...

[JackieClaire]

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and wait till you hear this - when Joe broke his foot last June 12 months - because he went to A&E he was in the public system and everything has been free - literally everything - hardly ever delayed or waiting for appointments - all excellent - until today - the insurance company want a medical report from a private consultant on their behalf out in a mad posh private clinic on the southside - out he goes - insurance company probably paying your man a fortune to see Joe - he was left waiting in his private rooms for 3 HOURS...….

Will you send over your head of the public system over here...........the waiting in the NHS would try the patience of a saint. Sometimes think they forget who pays their wages.

That three hours will add up nicely to the private consultant's fund for the tyres of his Rolls Royce. Just as well he didn't need a handbrake.

Right, I'm going into the world of frustration and shouting.............and that's just putting the cartridge in the printer. There'll be tears before bedtime.

[satz123]

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And for my next trick, I want to give up sugar......which is more scary than anything :egad:

:egad: tried it failed miserably. It's everywhere and your body really craves it...... L-Glutamine works to a point. Powder under the tongue.

[mollyka]

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:egad: tried it failed miserably. It's everywhere and your body really craves it...... L-Glutamine works to a point. Powder under the tongue.

Nightmare! Like benjy I really did try but it IS everywhere - didn't feel any colossal benefits when I almost eliminated so I left it to fight another day

[satz123]

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Will you send over your head of the public system over here...........the waiting in the NHS would try the patience of a saint. Sometimes think they forget who pays their wages.

That three hours will add up nicely to the private consultant's fund for the tyres of his Rolls Royce. Just as well he didn't need a handbrake.

Right, I'm going into the world of frustration and shouting.............and that's just putting the cartridge in the printer. There'll be tears before bedtime.

I HATE & DETEST printers & photocopiers :rant: (& they hate me)

[satz123]

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Got home from the hospital today. YS was there said he got off early from work ...........
He had been drinking again and I told him to leave me alone - I wasn't talking until he was sober.
He sat & tried to strike up a bullshit conversation about why he drinks - FFS!!!

I told him I didn't know WHY he drank and go see a therapist who can get to the root of it and f*** off and leave me alone - I'm done talking.
I also told him his grandmother may not last to Christmas and I'm dealing with that and he can go drink himself to death for all I care.

He'll remember in the morning and be absolutely mortified and what will he do - drink to ease the shame.
I've realised it's the coward's way out - the easy way out - rather than face up to life.

[JackieClaire]

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I hate printers...........I am going to get a scribe with a quill who will now copy all my documents.

[JackieClaire]

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[MENTION=9094]satz123[/MENTION], sorry x-post.

Oh he'll use that as a new pity pot, no doubt about it.

I sometimes think we baby our kids for too long. I know I've done it with mine.

[satz123]

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Yep I totally agree Jacks - they need to grow the feck up.
At his age I was happily married 15 years, survived some hairy moments in that 15 years, had hefty mortgage, dodgy jobs , reared 2 kids and was heading back full-time into the workforce ......

[IamMary]

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Xposts today! sorrys this is just a fly-by.

Yep I totally agree Jacks - they need to grow the feck up.
At his age I was happily married 15 years, survived some hairy moments in that 15 years, had hefty mortgage, dodgy jobs , reared 2 kids and was heading back full-time into the workforce ......

At his age I was drinking from my hidden stash, but was 'controlling' it because I had kids, job, bills etc. I think without those things I would have felt very sorry myself (I did still manage that), a bit bitter, maybe thats where young Satz is - he's so far down the hole, has no reason to get out. Doesnt help though, he still needs to grow a pair.

JC - good luck at the app tomorrow,

Good reading today, thanks all. X