August Army Manoevres

[mollyka]

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Morning all��

Apologies if offended anyone with my thoughts last pm. Not intentional. When I refer to it as disease i could as easily call it a malfunction, and the genetic thing I know is only a factor. And yeah Mary, least I wasn't born with a tail!!
Suppose nomatter what it's called or why it happens the main thing is it's a problem affecting our lives.

Mary - good on ya girl on the 24K.

Starty- that is why I'm not on fakebook never come away from it feeling better bout myself. Such and a load of bollix.
Also constantly have a feeling of needing to do more, being lazy and a failure. Compare myself too much with others. In my head I'd love to have all these interests and hobbies but truth is when have some down time I just wanna sit and do nothing. Then feel guilty and more lazy!!

D'Arsey glad you will not be a stranger�� Have a good day x

Rustop you sound so happy in your own skin- admiration from here!

Molls did ya sleep any better last night?

Procrastination has begun- should I get dressed or lounge in pjs for another while?!

Nope - sleep is shite this week for some reason - but I ain't gonna let it worry me - may be just strange being back at work - not sure..
Why would anyone be offended little Pea? We all have different takes on this - bottom line is hopefully the end result is the same - unlike Benjy - I quite liked the disease model - I know I have something that the rest of my family haven't got - and whereas in NO way did I feel it let me off the hook - when I finally did get into a decent bit of recovery - feeling that I had/have a disease took a bit of the shame out of it for me - so there you see - two sensible people with completely alternate takes on one condition...

ONE lovely advantage of being a WEE bit older ;-) - as long as I work full-time - if I want to sit and do nothing in my free time - I will sit and do nothing....

Hey Rusters back there - with you on all 'cept the crochet -- sometimes we just have to accept our limitations:applouse:

[JackieClaire]

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Morning,

@ sweetpea29...........what you apologizing for? I've got such a massive family on my Dad's side that it would be hard to say whether it was genetics....the odds are that at least a few of us would end up addicts......Actually got me thinking about my Nana who never went anywhere without her gigantic handbag filled with 40 B&H, her onyx ash-tray and small bottle of brandy. I just saw it as a quirk.

[satz123]

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- I quite liked the disease model - I know I have something that the rest of my family haven't got - and whereas in NO way did I feel it let me off the hook - when I finally did get into a decent bit of recovery - feeling that I had/have a disease took a bit of the shame out of it for me - so there you see - two sensible people with completely alternate takes on one condition...

ONE lovely advantage of being a WEE bit older ;-) - as long as I work full-time - if I want to sit and do nothing in my free time - I will sit and do nothing....
:

Highlighted the 2 things I like here -
a)making ourselves feel as good as possible by calling this whatever makes most sense to us.
and
b) sitting and doing nothing

I do understand what you mean [MENTION=22456]starty[/MENTION] about seeing others doing 'stuff' and thinking I SHOULD do more - running , walking , learning - but I get over it and just sit and do nothing :haha:

[satz123]

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Morning,

@ sweetpea29...........what you apologizing for? I've got such a massive family on my Dad's side that it would be hard to say whether it was genetics....the odds are that at least a few of us would end up addicts......Actually got me thinking about my Nana who never went anywhere without her gigantic handbag filled with 40 B&H, her onyx ash-tray and small bottle of brandy. I just saw it as a quirk.

It probably was 'quirk' Jacks - small bottle of brandy would not do it for US :egad:
And you can be sure that she didn't have to go home and top up once she started ( or did she ?)

[mollyka]

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It probably was 'quirk' Jacks - small bottle of brandy would not do it for US :egad:
And you can be sure that she didn't have to go home and top up once she started ( or did she ?)

I wonder? 'twas strange tho - ?

Used to wonder too - if I had no one - like if I'd been single and lived alone and didn't have drop in visitors sort of thing... at what stage would I have gotten into trouble with the outside world as regards my drinking? As it became an issue at the end and it went into hiding - that's the only reason that my drinking ever left the house so to speak - like buying stashes to hide - and quaffing a few on the way home from work and then driving at the end... work never suffered - YET... it's irrelevant - but yeah - it made it much easier for me to see the problem I s'pose because it became insufferable with the family - just thinking of support networks really I think - if Joe hadn't ever seen a problem...? that sort of thing... (he since professed that he didn't have a clue - but he was drinking a lot too) - even when I ran away to a hotel for 3 days - he thought I was just really cross with him and drank because of that.... jeez..

[NoSugar]

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I always have this underlying feeling that I need to do more. Be it more exercise, more hobbies, more enthusiasm more interest in stuff and I really need to stop that. It is not doing me good. Anyone else have those kind of thoughts? Or is it just me :haha:

When I was drinking and knew I should quit, but before things fell apart and I'd given up all but my main, sick passion, I overcompensated by doing "more" of everything that could be seen: I volunteered at schools, worked out excessively, made "arty" quilts and jewelry, participated in "serious" book clubs, had an immaculate house, and on and on. I probably was trying to convince myself as well as everyone else that I was more than fine -- I was GREAT. And it was such a sham.

After some time AF, I lost the need to prove myself. I don't exercise much other than hopefully enough to maintain my health. No one thinks I'm younger than I am anymore and it's such a relief to be ok with that. I don't try to show off how artistic I am with the things I make and really enjoy knitting (which, like you and crochet, @rustop59, was a new craft for me) and making cozy quilted things for my grand kids. I read books I want to read. If I'm not enjoying a book or project, I stop, no longer feeling I have to accomplish everything I begin. In my 'absence', my husband has taken a belated interest in laundry and hoovering (your word :wink, which is nice. Part of the change might be just age and realizing what is important but I think a lot of it comes from finally accepting myself, warts and all, and no longer trying to compensate for what a horrible person I thought I was.

I'm with you rustop, If I'm not enjoying whatever I'm doing in the moment I'm doing it (apart from normal responsibilities of life), I don't do it.

[starty]

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I love youse lot Always make me feel better about myself.

Pea why would anyone be offended. I havent worked out what to call myself other than an addict. But whatever works for individuals is all fine to me. More important is what we do with that info.

Maybe its because I am in my first year that these feelings are more acute. Hopefully they will pass. No energy to do much other than work anyway.

Molls I am not sleeping well either. Slept brilliantly on retreat in a room full of strangers mind :haha:

[RunningCourage]

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Evening peeps. Away to stick summat in the oven -

[RunningCourage]

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Ovened and eaten.

Just seen this in the BBC website: Adrian Chiles 'horrified' at drinking 1 alcohol units a week - BBC News re Adrian Chiles and his drinking. Food for thought. Or drink for thought. He's made a programme - out next Monday in the UK - He;s interested in "finding out people's ideas of what type of drinking counts as alcoholism" ... realise some here are the world's best expert's on this subject (no shit, really?!). Probably a programme aimed at the middle-agers who don't think they have any issue with AL but are drinking such excessive amounts that are in fact abusing - and dependent on - AL.

Off to procrastinate. Ought to do prep for the show... but i'm not feeling much mojo for doing anything that requires attention. Lazy feck that I am :haha:

[sweetpea29]

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Ovened and eaten.

Just seen this in the BBC website: Adrian Chiles 'horrified' at drinking 1 alcohol units a week - BBC News re Adrian Chiles and his drinking. Food for thought. Or drink for thought. He's made a programme - out next Monday in the UK - He;s interested in "finding out people's ideas of what type of drinking counts as alcoholism" ... realise some here are the world's best expert's on this subject (no shit, really?!). Probably a programme aimed at the middle-agers who don't think they have any issue with AL but are drinking such excessive amounts that are in fact abusing - and dependent on - AL.

Off to procrastinate. Ought to do prep for the show... but i'm not feeling much mojo for doing anything that requires attention. Lazy feck that I am :haha:

Evening all

Yer a step ahead of me tonight D'Arsey- I'm just ovening some grub now! Going all out on potato waffles n chicken nuggets!

This explains why radio station I've been listening to today had a couple of segments Talking about alcohol and addiction. Wasn't paying much heed as I got outa the pjs this morn and got stuck into some serious cleaning/decluttering! Can't very well complain about Papa when my own house is near as bad! A trip to council recycling and hospice shop is on cards for tomorrow!
Have you rehearsal tonight?

Starty and all -have no idea but my default position is near always to apologise in case I've offended- terrible paranoid freak I am too!

[JackieClaire]

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Ovened and eaten.

Just seen this in the BBC website: Adrian Chiles 'horrified' at drinking 1 alcohol units a week - BBC News re Adrian Chiles and his drinking. Food for thought. Or drink for thought. He's made a programme - out next Monday in the UK - He;s interested in "finding out people's ideas of what type of drinking counts as alcoholism" ... realise some here are the world's best expert's on this subject (no shit, really?!). Probably a programme aimed at the middle-agers who don't think they have any issue with AL but are drinking such excessive amounts that are in fact abusing - and dependent on - AL.

Off to procrastinate. Ought to do prep for the show... but i'm not feeling much mojo for doing anything that requires attention. Lazy feck that I am :haha:

You're never going to believe this but I had that bookmarked to share this evening. Of course had to work out how many pints that was 100 units its over 50 pints a week...........I know that we don't say its not how much but the whys but thats a shed load and a half. Interestingly enough he says he's doesn't think he'll be able to cut down to the suggested units.

Edit that should read 100 units in the quote.

[sweetpea29]

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Good evening Jacks😊

How are you?

Would imagine many if not most 'normal' drinkers are over the recommend weekly unit limits..
Didn't know Chiles had anxiety and depression. Interesting.

Away to make up a fresh bed and have a soak. Deserve it today I reckon! Plus this buckin iPad is on the go-slow and melting my head

[mollyka]

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Evening -

[satz123]

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Where you been ??

[sweetpea29]

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Yes evening Molls😀
Yer prob well away to leaba by now!

Anyhows, going that direction myself

Oiche Mhaith/good night to all