ANYONE BEEN THROUGH DETOX HELP PLS

[sujul]

ANYONE BEEN THROUGH DETOX HELP PLS

:welcome: Magic--and congratulations on 2.5 years!

Okay, sleep, yes, wonderful idea.....

[sujul]

ANYONE BEEN THROUGH DETOX HELP PLS

Best of luck, beatle.... and I was wondering whose thoughts I was channeling!

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[cassy]

ANYONE BEEN THROUGH DETOX HELP PLS

Hi sujul...i,ve done lots of drinking patterns too.not had to to rehab (yet!
i,ve noticed in my friends with alcohol problems that they prefer to drink alone at home.now some live on their own so that is one factor,

One friend lives alone but will never drink when we go out for a meal or with others on a social occasion..when asked she says she can drink what she likes at home and nobody cares or observes her behaviours.she is a professional lady and image matters so she would never be seen drunk publicly!!!!

so i guess for many lone drinking/isolation becomes the norm as the dependency progresses.
I am deliberatley trying to ensure i only drink when out of the house for a meal/ with friends as have been aware this is how the pattern often ends up.......

home alone with only the bottle and negative thoughts equals the road to destruction for me!!


RACHAEL.....i,m really hoping you get support and feel you are on the way to some changes when you get to the doctors this am....hope he/she is able to understand and help you.keeping you in my prayers .

good luck

cassy

[magic]

ANYONE BEEN THROUGH DETOX HELP PLS

Thank you sujul.

I am glad to be here although I have no idea how on earth I found you good people.

My higher power perhaps.

magic xx

[nething4usp]

ANYONE BEEN THROUGH DETOX HELP PLS

How does one begin to put into words the appreciation and all the gratitude your words of support and encouragement that your posts and pm's have given me, especially over the last 18 - 24 hours. It is with the greatest respect and admiration I have been reading your posts over the past few weeks, and have been amazed and awed at the courage you have found at first in overcoming your addictions to alcohol, ( at the very least finding ways of controlling it and continuing to strive forward to your individual goals) but now with realization of the so many other personal and emotional conflicts you have gotten past and through.

I spent countless hours in complete frustration trying to find out as much as I could about alcoholism, because I knew not understanding any of it, I would never be able to be the friend I need to be to someone so special in my heart and life. And through the suggestions of so many of the MWO members either by direct posts or in the archives quickly found that I needed to first determine if it was patience or tough love to be the first approach (still working on that, and this next week will bring new options I'll have to consider again) but even through my uncertainty, at every what I hoped was an appropriate opportunity either mentioned something I had found within your words on MWO or re-sent link in hopes he will / would come here. As he is the only one that knows all the reasons he used for drinking, more importantly why he is taking the stops to control/stop it.

I know I'm hours behind in replying to the posts received over-night, each one of them has helped in so many different aspects and answered many of the questions and fears I needed answers to, and also gave me insight to things I never even imagined would be part of the challenges I am about to face.

So this is just a quick thank you again, for all you have given to me and for your time and best wishes and prayers.

At one point this morning I was thinking of all the dead ends I was reaching both searching sites on line, and through my calls yesterday and thought how many others both those seeking help, support and direction and those of us wanting to be there to help them and how until finding site, did not even know MWO existed. I thought how amazing it would be if everyone who visits here and has found something to help them, just sent an email to their medical facility, local help / distress centre, posted link on the grocery or laundromat bulletin boards and all the other places you first turned to looking for help before finding MWO. So many others would know the site existed and have the support given and I'm sure many long term friendships as that I have found, and most importantly I'm sure found something to reaching their goals seem so very possible. I know I will be sending this link to many different places.

Have a wonderful day....with hopes of it being another AF one....and endless ones to follow.

lol....now if I could only figure out how I ended up with the same 2 original postings....
another time

[nething4usp]

ANYONE BEEN THROUGH DETOX HELP PLS

Magic thank you

I keep looking at the clock, and with a 3 hour time difference between us, it makes my day seem so much longer on the best of days.

It did seem that he had already looked and probably most importantly realized that detox was his best option as the first needed step....and it is so good to hear that one the most frightening parts is getting yourself there. I tried my best to keep suggesting / telling him, that if detox can't be done immediately (for whatever the reasons are he didn't go sooner)
that at least get to his doctors, in hopes that many of the withdrawal symptoms perhaps would not be as painful and at risks as I've read they can be. Unfortunately, wasn't successful. It has taken us a long time to have him open up on many things, and knowing by only being up front and honest while talking with the staff at centre/hospital is the best way to be successful....it's another of the greatest hopes, that he will be able to do this...at the very least realizes it's something he will have to....and I know if I can get him to MWO, even if just a reader to start....he'll find so many answers to the so many questions.

thank you so much for sharing your experience at detox, and how much it is helping knowing what he is going through

so good to see it has been a help for the last 2.5 years....and by the sounds of things many more to follow

[nething4usp]

ANYONE BEEN THROUGH DETOX HELP PLS

He walked out

just as I was wondering if there would be an adjustments to consider that his usually working hours are 5.00 AM - !.00 PM....and how would the centres hours of probably being the basic brekki and 7-9 lunch noon - 1 and dinner around 5.00...saw email had come - "I walked out - basic tone of email - meds given made him feel like zombie
couldn't take it anymore" :upset:

and I was so encouraged by all read and shared...and so very very hopeful,
thank you all for the help in making the early part of my day seem so promising

[magic]

ANYONE BEEN THROUGH DETOX HELP PLS

Oh, I'm sorry to hear this nething4usp.

Yes, the meds can make one feel like a zombie but compared to withdrawl zombieism is a good thing. I suspect that is not really why he left. Judgement, I know. Just a very strong feeling. I've heard this reason so many times before.

One is asked to face some hard truths in detox and deal with even harder restrictions on movement and freedom. He was not ready. BUT that was a huge step in the right direction for him and for this you should be proud. He has admitted there is a problem and wants to do something about it.

Your friend has to be committed to doing this for himself, all you can do is encourage with love and honesty. Perhaps the next time he will stay.

It's a good start. We beat this disease with baby steps. One day at a time.

I hope he'll try again. Don't YOU beat yourself up over it, don't let yourself obsess. You have your life to live. Live it.

Blessings to you.

magic xx

I am in AB

[nething4usp]

ANYONE BEEN THROUGH DETOX HELP PLS

Magic - your feelings were absolutely right, as the email did also include "everything taken from you"....but I guess I had hoped he was ready and comitted as any suggestions for using the supplements and books from MWO and get medical advice to ease the withdrawal when he did go to detox (over the past 3 weeks) his concern was he wouldn't be able to deal with them on his own...that detox was his only option...I guess there's a lot more I need to find out, my guess is he was in no shape to work when he showed up Mon & Tues...either too exhausted or still impaired.

The typing in his email tells me either the drugs or a combination of them and some alcohol is I'm not going to find out anymore tonight. I realize they can't hold you at the centre, especially when it's a volunteer entry...but am surprised they will let you leave if the drugs have affected you....and that chances are old habits will be immediately be reinstated upon return home.

and from those that have shared their experiences with detox....seems there have been
2nd and 3rd attempts....and although someone said the most frightening part was getting there....I am worried that as he now has some knowledge and has deemed it to be a bad experience, I'm sure it's not likely a quick return will be made.

Guess I'm going to have to re-do my welcome home email...and figure out what should be said tonight....right now all I want to do is listen....but don't think that is even going to be an option.

and I was so looking forward to a more restful sleep tonight

[sujul]

ANYONE BEEN THROUGH DETOX HELP PLS

I am so sorry net...trying to deal with this is so very difficult...perhaps because so many of our habits and ways of thinking are challenged when we attempt to address our drinking and so it feels more comfortable to go back to the old, familiar pain rather than risk the new and unknown pain of learning to live AF.

I heartily agree with magic that he was clearly not ready to do what he needed to do--not ready now, perhaps in the future.

In the meantime, though. it is important that YOU not be trapped by HIS alcoholism...it can be almost seductive to want to help someone--and it IS a blessing that you care so much--but you do deserve to have your own life to live....

Gently, gently, I say this--try not to get so entangled in his problems that you lose your self. HE will have to work this out--support is very important but no one can do the work for him. When I was a rehab counselor one of the things I would sometimes have to say when someone was clearly not willing/ready to do what it took to deal with their drug/alcohol problems was: "I am not going to put more work into your recovery than you are!" Because I too often found that I was spending all my time, energy and effort trying to help them and their effort was minimal...they simply weren't ready to do what they needed to do for themselves--in a way, they were waiting for me to do it for them....

I also remember how trapped family and friends were by "their" alcoholic...their lives literally revolved around that person's behavior. That's why they sometimes say that addiction is a "family disease"--everyone involved needs to get help...

I don't know whether any of this is useful at all--and I may be way out of line...but please know I just wish you the best. You are incredibly caring and thoughtful...do take care of your own needs as well as you take care of everyone else....

[sujul]

ANYONE BEEN THROUGH DETOX HELP PLS

I was posting at the same time as you, net, so what I said has not taken into account your new information...I think what I said still applies though...

[SKendall]

ANYONE BEEN THROUGH DETOX HELP PLS

Nething4, what a remarkable person you are.

As you can tell if you've been reading this site, we are all very compassionate, caring and intelligent human beings. So what makes us drink and removes quality of life.

This is still a question that most professionals still can't answer.

There is a doctor in my town whose specialty is alcoholism. He believes the only thing that helps is accupuncture in the ear. That being said, he also believes that the only thing that will help is a brain switch, i.e. an absolute mental determination to cease. Therein lies the rub, while we believe we have that mental determination, at some point, our mind is telling us "just for now", and "then we'll get better".

So yes, it is brain chemistry. Our determinations gets tripped by something else. Call it many names, willfullness, stubborness, etc. We just don't know. And if any of us here had the perfect answer we would give it up. What I do know about the wonderful and beautiful people on the site is that alcoholism or problem drinking was never their goal in life.

RJ, the author of the MWO book has been the absolute most comprehensive treatment program any of us have ever read. We don't get total success, but we certainly have had many successes and most people curb their drinking habits once they find a safe place to vent and realize on a conscious level there is hope.

I'm sorry that your partner decided not to stay the detox course, but it is a difficult and puzzling predicament. I only wish your partner the best.

Please take care of yourself.

:l

[rottrod]

ANYONE BEEN THROUGH DETOX HELP PLS

Hil, have you done the accupuncture in the ear?

[Determinator]

ANYONE BEEN THROUGH DETOX HELP PLS

my goodness, this is such an intruiging thread especially since I've been though detox and of course all the various issues. I felt like a zombie also but it was better than the way I was feeling. take care everyone. sorry I don't really have much to add as I'm dreadfully sick right now.

[SKendall]

ANYONE BEEN THROUGH DETOX HELP PLS

Rotrod, yes I did, but at the time I wasn't even having alcohol cravings, but heard from the other patients that it was a blessing. I had accupuncture for carpal tunnel and he decided to administer it to me, I didn't drink but was A.F. at the time. Who knows, but this doc has done so much work in this area, I really believe it's true. Also, there was a patient in the doc's office who was unable to sleep at all due to meth, or whatever and after her treatment she fell asleep in a recliner.