July Army 2022

[lifechange]

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i also have to agree, Satz.. i can't imagine negative criticism could do much good/be helpful.. i totally get how frustrated you both must be! but most of the time negativity just adds fuel to the fire.. and probably doesn't make Mr. S feel any better either.. gosh, tough situation, to say the very least!

[satz123]

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Sorry for rolling out the same neverending story I'm annoying myself now :haha: But it helps me to get it written down.

Thanks ladies for your input :heart:
I thought the same ...... but then I'd think I was letting him off too lightly ...... and maybe that's how to treat an addict ....... keep letting him know how much upset he was causing. When we had family sessions in Aiseiri they'd get us to spill all the beans on his bad behaviour.
The more sordid the better I felt, and he had to sit there listen and squirm

So I dunno. Anyway he came home early when I contacted him and told him his Dad was gone racing.
MrS finds it impossible to express his worry & anxiety and is only happy when YS is safe within the 4 walls. Then hasn't a clue how to deal with him. I constantly have to tell him to stop just saying the same thing over & over. That we ALL KNOW he's in a bad way, we all KNOW he's ruining his life. Offer a constructive solution - don't pile on more shame & guilt.
YS from a toddler idolized his Dad so being told in words & by his demeanor that he is a disappointment to him goes deep I think.

Anyhoos work tomorrow & I get to leave this behind for a few hours. [MENTION=8529]mollyka[/MENTION] how is Joe's friend that was in bad shape?

[IamMary]

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Evening, sorry, missed a few days here and will have to read back in the morning.
Re YS, constant criticism won't help, but he also needs to know that this shit is not on. No point making threats your not going to keep either.
Do you a) keep working with him to do another quit or b) accept this status quo for now and put down some ground rules about his behaviour in the house.. room clean daily shower, blah blah blah..

Just back from Elvis. Great movie!!

[satz123]

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Morning all = awake fierce early this morning - must be the excitement of going to work :haha:

Yes IamMary I've heard great reports about the Elvis movie ( even if you are not that into him)

When are you off to Greece Mers ? Meeting up with Stirls in Athens - that'll be lovely.
Army is going all international inkele:

[lifechange]

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Morning Army,

wow, Satz, crazy early you are!! do Saturdays/weekends differ at your place? a bit more relaxed, a bit crazier? hope you have a good day!

i'm forcing myself to the gym this morning.. not really excited but i know i'll feel good afterwards..
Going to see Elvis this evening, Mary! yayyy!!

big hugs, happy Saturday and see you all a bit later..xx

[mollyka]

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Sorry for rolling out the same neverending story I'm annoying myself now :haha: But it helps me to get it written down.

Thanks ladies for your input :heart:
I thought the same ...... but then I'd think I was letting him off too lightly ...... and maybe that's how to treat an addict ....... keep letting him know how much upset he was causing. When we had family sessions in Aiseiri they'd get us to spill all the beans on his bad behaviour.
The more sordid the better I felt, and he had to sit there listen and squirm

So I dunno. Anyway he came home early when I contacted him and told him his Dad was gone racing.
MrS finds it impossible to express his worry & anxiety and is only happy when YS is safe within the 4 walls. Then hasn't a clue how to deal with him. I constantly have to tell him to stop just saying the same thing over & over. That we ALL KNOW he's in a bad way, we all KNOW he's ruining his life. Offer a constructive solution - don't pile on more shame & guilt.
YS from a toddler idolized his Dad so being told in words & by his demeanor that he is a disappointment to him goes deep I think.

Anyhoos work tomorrow & I get to leave this behind for a few hours. [MENTION=8529]mollyka[/MENTION] how is Joe's friend that was in bad shape?

He's in shocking shape...don't think he's ever going to come back...he's got wet brain I'm guessing.
When I said MrS should back off I didn't mean life should be normalised for him....definitely your house your rules and not try and make things 'ok'. And yes of course in Áiseiri they made him listen to how he affects others etc. that's their job and they do it professionally...I think from you...someone who has walked the walk he would and should definitely pay attention and be told precisely and clinically how he is...just not ranting and raving...works for nothing.
Joe's off on his travels today...thought I'd be thrilled having place to myself...woke up a bit 'meh'...think ill miss the old bugger!!! Another glorious morning here...think I'll wave him off and then do a guilt free trip to garden centre (my secret pleasure these days) an grab a swim on way home...there's a plan!

[rustop59]

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Good morning everyone

That sounds lovely Molly. There is a garden center in the closest town/village to us and I keep meaning to go in. Not that I can buy anything yet but love looking. Same with furniture shops. Both of us going down west during week as he is on holiday. Might do some work but going to take time out too, enjoy the lake, visit the garden center, climb Nephin, the nearest mountain. Go out for dinner etc That’s the plan anyway.

Lovely morning here too, just been for a long walk with the dogs along the river. Big fella is wrecked, between running and swimming. Going to spend the rest of the day in the garden.

[JackieClaire]

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Morning,
[MENTION=9094]satz123[/MENTION]....................he can't handcuff him to his bed.

Molls it sounds like Werner- Korsakek syndrome....................poor beggar.

Enjoy the garden centre, Molls..

Wee Alfie now has a middle name.........Joseph.

[satz123]

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Wee Alfie now has a middle name.........Joseph.

Ah what a lovely old-fashioned name :heart:

[mollyka]

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Evening all...Joseph is a lovely name...both Joe and I have Daddy's and grandads and uncles going back to forever called Joseph....we carried it on with Joey (christened Joseph)
Lovely day had today..spent a fortune in garden centre and planted out most of the day. So much less work when there's only one of me and the house isn't messy!!!
Is YS heading to Limerick Benjy?

[IamMary]

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Hope you enjoyed Elvis [MENTION=15430]lifechange[/MENTION]. It's a bit long, but really good.

Was thinking about the 'man who got on the plane to Spain' too.. very sad.
Of course always wondering about YS and your sanity Satz..

Almost packed, off Monday at stupid o'clock. Stirls is a mind of information, really helpful. Hopefully we will manage a coffee!!

Alfie Joseph. Great name [MENTION=7008]JackieClaire[/MENTION].

[satz123]

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Evening all...Joseph is a lovely name...both Joe and I have Daddy's and grandads and uncles going back to forever called Joseph....we carried it on with Joey (christened Joseph)
Lovely day had today..spent a fortune in garden centre and planted out most of the day. So much less work when there's only one of me and the house isn't messy!!!
Is YS heading to Limerick Benjy?

Janey Molls you've changed - awake at 11PM ????? The country life is suiting you !
Forgot about the Joes in your family.
I too have a brother called Joseph (Joe).
He is the gobshite who's daughter stole from her grandmother with Dementia - and he has decided it was mine & my sister's fault. He will ignore us where possible.
We didn't even tell him at the time because she is a grown woman and should face the consequences herself but he found out.

It was very CAgney & Lacey stuff. My sister put a camera in the kitchen and there she was bold as brass taking my mother's last €10 that we had planted.
She had stolen thousands over the months. I still have the video.

Would you believe she had the gall to visit my mother in the Nursing Home with others ...... and the photo got posted on WhatsApp.
To keep the peace a little I objected to the photo on the grounds that there were 5 of them surrounding my mother with no masks on, in a pandemic, with a vulnerable person in a medical setting.
Of course he took offence at even that comment .... that is the type he is ..... just waiting to be offended .... ar*sehole.

As you may guess I'm off work today :yay:

[mollyka]

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I had an uncle Joe (joseph)...never knew of him till mum got old and her mind wandered a bit...so awfully sad...he was a GP down the country (round here actually) and he had a relationship with one of his patients (neither were married) and it was such a scandal he killed himself....so so sad..and that my dad was so ashamed he never told us of his existence.

[mollyka]

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Love the packing to go bit Mary...Will it be very hot or will it be okay? Only been to Greece once but that was in Sept.

[satz123]

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I had an uncle Joe (joseph)...never knew of him till mum got old and her mind wandered a bit...so awfully sad...he was a GP down the country (round here actually) and he had a relationship with one of his patients (neither were married) and it was such a scandal he killed himself....so so sad..and that my dad was so ashamed he never told us of his existence.

There are a lot of skeletons in our family closet too.
On my father's side. His mother was very harsh - I'm told.
Sisters of his who left the country ( or were told to leave) & never heard of since.
Babies 'out of wedlock' given up for adoption or raised by an older sister in a different town.

These are just snippets my mother told us over the years.
God knows what else there is :egad: