Army August 2022

[mollyka]

Re: Army August 2022

Morning all -- cooler here today so heading off to the beach -- yeah -- Joe really makes sense sometimes. He's driving me mad since we came home -- he knows EVERYTHING -- and listens to nothing.... I'm just keeping my mouth shut as far as possible -- the mood he's in will just end up in a row... Mrknowitall!!!!

Anyway -- yes Elsie -- I remember on one of my MANY relapses while on MWO being more nervous coming back here to the Army than I was telling the family!!! Not like anyone here would say boo -- it's only ever support and only ever should be -- we aren't the alcohol police - we are people who have really REALLY walked the walk - my disappointment would be if you disappeared or pretended you weren't drinking -- no point in that at all -- Benjy was perfectly honest at the beginning that she was still having a few.... and was going to drink on that holiday -- and some of my relapses taught me more than periods of sobriety did tbh -- they taught me that yes -- I'm an alcoholic -- NO doubt -- no wondering -- (not recommending relapses as a learning curve of course -- but we can use them!)
Right off to the poxy beach.... yay!!

[starty]

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Morning all

I hate your floater too Satz :haha:

LC like everyone has said, being involved with sober non judgemental people, is a great way to get where you want to be. You can see that life is possible without alcohol in the mix and everyone still has life problems which are kinda worked through. Ya know, like ordinary people do. I have come and gone from here countless times partly because I wanted to forget that I wanted to be sober but deep down, like you, knowing its not a way to live. In the little codeine group I am in, many of them are still using and just cannot stop. One of the clean ones messaged me and said she needed to stay away from the group because it was getting her down. I get that totally, but I will stay because hopefully one day, my encouragement and totally non judgemental attitude will support one of them to quit. It also has the effect of reinforcing where I dont want to be. So a win win really.

I am like you with slacking to keep a record of what's happening. I keep a notebook by my bed and I notice when everything is going OK I never wright in it. When things are a complete clusterfuck I do. Well thats no good because I forget the things that help and the good things that happen and just focus on the stuff that is difficult. I think the psych and talking to your ex are massive first steps with dealing with your issues.

Ive been out for a couple of lovely walks too Rusters, its gorgeous today.

Molls, have fun at the beach :haha:

Its my neighbours 40th today. She said pop round later, I said lovely absolutely knowing I will not be going. Love her, but not a house full of family. Dont think I will ever be sociable.

[mollyka]

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At the beach....loads of surfers...fabulous...glad I came now...omg a neighbours 40th...that'd be enough to drive me to drink!!!

[mollyka]

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Ah here...are yiz all out partying in your ripped jeans and miniskirts?:allgood:
Just popping in to say hi!!

[rustop59]

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Night Mols and everyone else

Only back a little while. Grass was so wet yesterday he could not cut so got it done today and went for run. I got loads of small fiddly painting jobs done so productive weekend after all.

[satz123]

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I'm here too !
Takes this long to decompress with Rosie & shite tv.
The ladies were all 'up to 90' today - is there a full moon ?

One lady, tiny but strong & no nonsense, "I'm NEVER coming to shop here again. You won't let me OUT ???""that is against the law"
She and her friend were adamant they were going home I had to physically stand in the doorway !
I told her she had no handbag with her - so they went back to get it. phew !!

[JackieClaire]

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[MENTION=15430]lifechange[/MENTION].............you're part of the Army now and we're not letting you go so you're stuck with us now.

Sorry I keep disappearing as you must be as bored as I am about the 'wedding'. The dress is now in the back bedroom. Mr JC went and collected it from Jenny's in York today. I stayed at home to look after the dog. In reality I plonked my arse on the settee and watched umpteen episodes of Columbo.

I never had ripped jeans.......:sad:..........is it too late for me to get them now.

[starty]

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I have a hole in me shorts, is that any good? :haha:

Satz that is so funny and tragic. You have to think on your feet in there! It must be very rewarding in some ways and totally get needing to decompress. Must be even tougher for the full timers in that environment. I would love to be the type of person that could work somewhere like that but I really dont think I can.

Good to see you JC. Hopefully the wedding will be a roaring success and despite all the stress, many happy memories.

Work today boo. Last week until some time off starting Thursday yay! Its my birthday next week and we are going to spend a couple of days with Mr S mum and dad which will be lovely. The doggers love it there and we might take a trip to the seaside.

[IamMary]

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Sorry i keep disappearing too. So much going on here, nothing concerning, just v busy (plus self inflicted marathon training).
Also have not done my homework.. will,post up in a bit.

There was a piece about codeine addiction on our afternoon talk show last friday [MENTION=22456]starty[/MENTION]. Im sure its nothing new for you, but here you go anyway. https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/clips/22135620/. So different and so similar to Al in many ways.

[MENTION=15430]lifechange[/MENTION], i didnt realise your daughter was pregnant :happy2: dont be so hard on yourself, you are lining up all your ducks and posting here every day and thats commitment. I used to plan my evenings down to the minute and id feel like i came first in a race when i made it to bed without a drink! The mornings were the best, still are.
Its lashing rain here but ive a clear head and i dont have to obsess about alcohol today. Day by day LC.

Hows the young fella [MENTION=9094]satz123[/MENTION]?

Doing up the sitting room. Sold a sofa online, horray! Himself has done all the painting and now doing alcove bookshelves and panelling. Next job is getting the carpet cleaned, totally manky.

[starty]

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https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/clips/22135620/. So different and so similar to Al in many ways.

OMG this is just like me!!!! At my worst I was taking about 40 per day this poor lady had multiple organ failure. Thank god I didn't. I had a spreadsheet to monitor which chemists Id been to so I didn't go to the same one too often.Had my lies prepared and any questions I could answer with a big fat lie. Thanks for sharing Mary. In our little group there is quite a few ladies from Ireland I think its a big problem everywhere.

[rustop59]

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Afternoon everyone

Good to see you back Mary. Trouble with doing up one part of the house it shows everything else up. It is lovely to have it all freshly done though. Heard that interview, truly scary what addiction drives us to. Not long now JC, can’t remember, did you get a hat?

Cloudy but still very warm. Got my walk in before work.

Just on lunch so will check in later.

[JackieClaire]

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Here comes the wedding bore.
Got my hat no bother and can't for the life of me remember where.
Mr JC went down to York yesterday to collect the 'dress' and other bits and bobs. I just had a peep into the back bedroom (can't see the dress as its covered) but the amount of boxes makes it look like the back of an Amazon van. Gawd knows whats in them.
Mr JC's so laid back he's going to fall over.

Other than that [MENTION=15430]lifechange[/MENTION]..............thank you for your honesty and of course we're going to support you in anyway we can....................except I'm on a sort of leave at the moment.

[NoSugar]

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Hi, Army

I logged in to MWO for the first time in ages after several family episodes ranging from my mom's death to my grandson's completely unsuccessful week of potty-training-with-grandma experience. Wanting to drink has not been an issue other than a moment several weeks ago when a friend suggested I have a drink and I replied that I would want at least 4 so I'd better pass.

Anyway, reading your stories of how you got to the place that you knew you had to quit was very reassuring and a good reminder of where I've been (Frankly, it now is hard to believe I actually went through all that!). I didn't drink much at all until sometime in my 30s when I got into the habit because of the wine-snob friends I was hanging with and the mistaken idea that red wine is "healthy". It seems like the routine exposure and what it must have seemed to "fix" in me (being more social, less bored at events, less achievement-oriented, more relaxed, etc.) led to a habit that over time became a full out addiction. I know things worsened when 2 friends died and my kids left (like Satz, witnesses were gone). Menopause began somewhere in there but because I'd had a hysterectomy (still had the ovaries), it wasn't obvious where I was in the process. I know I blamed the alcohol-induced night sweats and 2 am wake ups on my hormones, though. When I quit eating much sugar and carbs due to the onset of diabetes, my drinking worsened (kind of the opposite of what many here have experienced). Again like Satz, I subconsciously figured out that drinking on an empty stomach was much more rewarding so developed an unhealthy eating pattern of starving myself from mid-morning until I allowed myself that first glass of wine (which initially was at a 'normal' time but over time got earlier and earlier until I gave up accomplishing anything after 4 pm when I would finally give in). It seems so shocking now how much I limited my life. But-- going through all of this has forced me to do some work on myself and figure out why I was psychologically susceptible to addiction. I came to understand the biology and chemistry of the whole business and all of that made sense. It took awhile to realize that my personality traits of perfectionism, need to please, and unwillingness to show any weakness or vulnerabilty provided a perfect environment for those biochemical actions to take hold. So while I still have regrets and shame about having become addicted, I'm grateful that escaping it has led me to be a person I like better and enjoy being. Who knows if I ever would have been inspired to address my lifelong issues if not for addiction?

LC, I'm happy you are learning to let go of shame. That's one of my goals. I think it is HUGE that you aren't hiding from your MWO friends even though you're occasionally struggling. I believe that will make the difference for you.

Satz, how is your son? I think of both of you often and hope so much he gets to the point of wanting to quit more than he wants to drink.

I love reading about the normal lives of all of you in the Army. If you can make it through the highs and lows, it gives me confidence that I can, too. xx, NS

[rustop59]

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[MENTION=18725]NoSugar[/MENTION], Deepest sympathy on the loss of your mother. Thanks for dropping by, always enjoy your insightful posts. Waves to everyone else. Feet up and watching mindless tv. Playing catch up all evening with laundry etc after being away.

[mollyka]

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So sorry to hear about your mum NS...such a hard time.
Great post and great to hear from you...even attempting to potty train a grandchild fills me with awe!
Hey Rusters...did nothing today and still exhausted..my eldest is coming down tomorrow for couple of days so saving my energy ;-) night all