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**Guest** · June 21, 2006, 07:36 AM

Hi- hello-now Vivitrex Info & topa probs share

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Hey there
Have you tried looking into Vivitrex? I have been doing some research on this and it looks promising. I am also afraid of the dopa associated with topa (I am a lawyer and cannot afford to be "dopey" even for one second, though at this point, I am still open to the topa idea). I have not tried it because its been hard for me to get it here in Canada.
Do some research into Vivitrex - maybe this site could be a starting point -
www.drugs.com/nda/vivitrex_050401.html

Maybe it would work better for you? (I am no expert, just a concerned soul like the rest of us here...)
Cheers to you
Jen

**Guest** · June 21, 2006, 10:52 AM

Hi- hello-now Vivitrex Info & topa probs share

Thank you Jen -Re: hello - a little report

Thank you Jen! I will look into it. The topa was very very hard on me (a systems consultant)-- & I agree as a lawyer probably not a good idea for you. Although it does affect each one differently as you know. Peace.

**Guest** · June 21, 2006, 11:48 AM

Hi- hello-now Vivitrex Info & topa probs share

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Hi,

I tried the vivatrex link but they said, "did you mean valtrex?" Heck no! That's for herpes. I have enough problems.

I haven't tried the topa for the reasons you describe. I have found a couple of things that are workiing for me. I am going to describe them in a separate post. They are simple things, not drugs.

All lthe best,

Ned

**Guest** · June 21, 2006, 12:35 PM

Hi- hello-now Vivitrex Info & topa probs share

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Ned - hahahahah! I'm sorry that was really funny about the herpes thing.
Actually the spelling is vivitrex - so try searching under that.
You made my day! :rollin

**Guest** · June 21, 2006, 01:49 PM

Hi- hello-now Vivitrex Info & topa probs share

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Vivitrex is just the new long acting injectable Naltrexone.
This drug has been around a long time and is discussed in MW O book. The idea behind the injectable form is to get patients to be more compliant and to not have to take pills all the time.

**Guest** · June 21, 2006, 05:56 PM

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Piper -- thank you.I saw one article. Has it been approved in US yet for alcohol dependence. I want to research its side effects...do you know...

**Guest** · June 21, 2006, 06:09 PM

Hi- hello-now Vivitrex Info & topa probs share

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I am happy to be free from Topa Dopa but very unhappy to be wanting my Chardonnay on a regular basis again. There is no way I can do the Topa. I have tried THREE times and my brain just doesn't cooperate with it. I feel so SAD about that.

I am feeling hopeless again. It's like "OK Maggie...just drink your one bottle of chard, at least it's not two, and you're functioning just fine."

So that's where I'm at. I remember posting "Topa rocks" and it DID until the side effects kicked in for me. So anyway...maybe something else will come along. I am just feeling bummed about this drinking thing tonight. Thanks for listeining.

**Guest** · June 21, 2006, 07:05 PM

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Maggie ...I so relate to you & experience. I am sad & worried also. But I just cannot tolerate the topa. Yes -- hoping something else comes along -- I am sure it will -- seems we are in the beginning ....Please let me know if you have other tips for me that might be helpful ...supps..I am thinking of trying 12.5 mg of topa ...I am sad -- because I was so excited about the miracle...Keep in touch ..gotta go ..more later...Thx...Chrysa

**Guest** · June 21, 2006, 08:12 PM

Hi- hello-now Vivitrex Info & topa probs share

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If I may join the Topa conversation,

Yes, I have been Topa-free for about a month and I feel absolutely great. I have my sharpness back now and have recovered my grasp of the English language... yeah! I hate to discourage anyone from taking it though, as it does work for a great many. It did work in the beginning for me, but something compelled me to mentally crave alcohol even while the Topa took care of the physical craving.

Don't feel too badly if you're not able to obtain or tolerate this drug. There are plenty of us here who have not found it to be the magic pill we thought it was going to be. Not that anyone ever sold it to us that way. There are many alternative approaches that will also work for you.

I'm actually glad it didn't stop me from drinking, I did cut down considerably though. Drinking to excess while on Topa taught me quite a bit about the nature of my addiction, something I wouldn't otherwise have known. I realized alot of my overdrinking was to fill an emotional void and probably was not a physical dependance.

So aside from feeling like a loser because this drug wasn't working for me, I'm grateful for the learning experience.

Many wishes for success whatever you decide,
Lori

**Guest** · June 21, 2006, 08:20 PM

Hi- hello-now Vivitrex Info & topa probs share

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When I took 100 mg of Topa I had no craving for Chardonnay. I still liked the thought of coming home to a glass of it but the key is "a GLASS of it." I would drink a single glass. So...there is something to the brain GABA thing. I still loved the thought of my chardonnay but drinking a single glass was just fine. That is what I miss about the Topa.

**Guest** · June 21, 2006, 08:44 PM

Hi- hello-now Vivitrex Info & topa probs share

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Lorik,
Thank you for saying "don't feel badly" & for sharing. I feel too that I learned a great deal about my patterns & getting into new behavior which was eased with the topa . I want to ask you more if that is OK & will write again tommorrow. Too tired at moment. Mixed feelings -- relieved I am not alone esp with such good bright company...disappointed/worried on other hand ..but I have to go with what my body & mind are telling me
Live Strong! (Do you like that?) Think I do. Thx..Chrysa

**Guest** · June 22, 2006, 08:23 AM

Hi- hello-now Vivitrex Info & topa probs share

Info on Vivitrex

Here is some random info I have found on vivitrex:

alkermes2005.ifactory.com...tsheet.pdf

www.centerforaddiction.org/Vivitrex

www.forbes.com/2005/08/08...itrex.html

See what you think!
jen

**Guest** · June 22, 2006, 10:14 AM

Hi- hello-now Vivitrex Info & topa probs share

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I am not sure if the injectable Vivitrex has been FDA approved in US yet. See article here below. But you could certainly request your Dr. put you on Naltrexone in the meantime which is the pill form of the drug. Its done wonders for some people as it not only helps the craving but blocks the opiate effects of alcohol and drugs. Best to you.

www.pharmabiz.com/article...ctionid=14

**Guest** · June 22, 2006, 08:08 PM

Hi- hello-now Vivitrex Info & topa probs share

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Thanks piper, lorik, jen, maggie for tips. I don't know what to do. I feel myself slipping already -- littl e more wine each night. Leftover vodka from party in garage has my full attention. On the other hand I hate going in circles as I have done that so many times before in lmy life. I hated the topa problems & gave it a good 8 wks. But maybe I will experiment with 12.5 or 25. Is naltrexone as effective in reducing cravings??

They need to come up with a combo drug -- topa with counteractives all in one for our particular problem. You know like how they did with pain killers -- codeine + caffeine + tylenol or barbit+caffeine+tylenol..

NOTE: But it does work for so many -- so any newbies reading this -- it is definitely worth the try to see how it affects you.!!

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