Ibogaine: amazing addiction stopper, plant medicine

[Bruunhilde]

Ibogaine: amazing addiction stopper, plant medicine

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[Doggygirl]

Ibogaine: amazing addiction stopper, plant medicine

Bruun, that is another great example. Some really crazy stuff goes on. One has to follow the money.

See? I guess I AM a conspiracy theorist!! :H

DG

[Bruunhilde]

Ibogaine: amazing addiction stopper, plant medicine

Anyone want to meet in Mexico instead of Chicago for an ibogaine?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bl8a7rUZek&feature=related[/video]]YouTube - 2 days after Ibogaine

[Greg]

Ibogaine: amazing addiction stopper, plant medicine

I'm interested although skeptical too. I do know how little it really means for something to be "officially approved" or otherwise for medical treatment of any condition so I won't knock ibogaine on that basis. Just as Ne said, look at baclofen's official status as an alcoholism treatment!!

As a side note, the normally hazardous drug ketamine has been suggested as a depression treatment, not as an ongoing treatment but as a single or limited number of treatments. Scopolamine, also called hyoscine, was also found useful for depression in lowish doses. I'm not recommending anyone take either but these are two more possible examples of unapproved effective treatments which are both unpatentable by pharmaceutical corporations.

[Bruunhilde]

Ibogaine: amazing addiction stopper, plant medicine

Greg, agreed, the FDA in the US is corrupt, and under resourced. They approve things under pressure by lobbyists prematurely, and pull things off the shelf for political reasons (threats/bribes?) so products that are patentable can be substituted. Primary example is tryptophan, taken off the shelves in the US for 20 years because of a contaminated product. This is when SSRI's for depression were sold the doctors and patients for the seratonin uptake/depression cure. Tryptophan could have done the job much cheaper and now the world is trained on anti-depressants, so they allowed tryptophan back in under pressure (everyone educating themselves on the internet and screaming WTF is this AMINO ACID not legal??).

Gaba, tryptophan, high dose fish oil, all these things help depression too. And from what I've read, gaba helps the body produce more seratonin which they're now finding the SSRI's are severely depleting making them useless and damaging long term.

Tracy, just read a conspiracy novel called The Nearest Exit, you'd probably enjoy. It wasn't hard to follow unless you're drunk or exhausted, but it wasn't as easy to predict as most, and I didn't have alot of criticism (which I usually do have) about the plot and how it was laid out although I thought the end fizzled a tad and some of the stuff was beyond believability. It was all about the CIA & operatives doing crazy ass things around the globe to fund the agency and to politically fix things for the US, etc. I'm not selling it very well but I did like it, it was fast paced and exotic in many ways.

[anne1232]

Ibogaine: amazing addiction stopper, plant medicine

If anyone is serious about Ibogaine teatment

write me a private message. I know quite a bit about how to get treatment in western Mexico.
Interesting to see this topic (finally!) getting some interest here.

[RedThread12]

Ibogaine: amazing addiction stopper, plant medicine

Anyone want to meet in Mexico instead of Chicago for an ibogaine? :H:H:H:H a woman after my own :h !!!

Which doesn't discount my interest in and support of this investigation. I've got a little to report about it when I have time later.

[RedThread12]

Ibogaine: amazing addiction stopper, plant medicine

My ex-husband (just talked to him last night, we're still great friends) has used Ibogaine fairly extensively under ultra-controlled circumstances. Not for addiction therapy, but as part of his way of continuing to follow his deep spiritual path. I know from my direct experience with him what a heavy duty deal it is. What I observed is this: a couple of trips he took were very valuable and very deepening. I believe the final one, which he described and I can only say was REALLY a bad trip, did some damage somewhere in his brain or nervous system or DNA. Can't go into detail, but just imagine the opposite of PbarbE's trip and the paranoia and fear that might come up. It's decades later and it's still there. I don't blame the Ibogaine, but a lot got triggered there.

On the other hand - the son of a friend of mine was deep into opiate addiction for years. They have plenty of money, so he went to 2-3 of the big name treatment centers, to no avail. He was living in her home (against her husband's wishes) and she told me there were days when she left the house that she doubted he would be alive when she returned. I put her in touch with my husband, they decided on a place in Mexico that did the Ibogaine treatment thing and . . . voila! No more opiates, no more addictions of any kind, following in his father's footsteps in the family business!! He says he did a lifetime's worth of personal growth work during his stay at the Ibogaine clinic, and it's holding, 5 years later.

SO . . . amazing potential. Makes taking baclofen seem kinda' low-key and normal :H:H Once again, I gotta' say, MWO ROCKS that there are these kinds researches, discussions and investigations into what ever the hell might work!!

Thanks, Anne.

[beatle]

Ibogaine: amazing addiction stopper, plant medicine

Shouldn't this thread also be on the meds forum?

Anyone know how?

[beatle]

Ibogaine: amazing addiction stopper, plant medicine

Bruunhilde;1115247 wrote: Greg, agreed, the FDA in the US is corrupt, and under resourced. They approve things under pressure by lobbyists prematurely, and pull things off the shelf for political reasons (threats/bribes?) so products that are patentable can be substituted. Primary example is tryptophan, taken off the shelves in the US for 20 years because of a contaminated product. This is when SSRI's for depression were sold the doctors and patients for the seratonin uptake/depression cure. Tryptophan could have done the job much cheaper and now the world is trained on anti-depressants, so they allowed tryptophan back in under pressure (everyone educating themselves on the internet and screaming WTF is this AMINO ACID not legal??).

Gaba, tryptophan, high dose fish oil, all these things help depression too. And from what I've read, gaba helps the body produce more seratonin which they're now finding the SSRI's are severely depleting making them useless and damaging long term.

Tracy, just read a conspiracy novel called The Nearest Exit, you'd probably enjoy. It wasn't hard to follow unless you're drunk or exhausted, but it wasn't as easy to predict as most, and I didn't have alot of criticism (which I usually do have) about the plot and how it was laid out although I thought the end fizzled a tad and some of the stuff was beyond believability. It was all about the CIA & operatives doing crazy ass things around the globe to fund the agency and to politically fix things for the US, etc. I'm not selling it very well but I did like it, it was fast paced and exotic in many ways.

1) What she said (and wendilee... "wake up people!" -- indeed, thank you!)
2) Tracy?

[beatle]

Ibogaine: amazing addiction stopper, plant medicine

Also want to thank RT for sharing her experience. I'm beginning to get sold on this.

[anne1232]

Ibogaine: amazing addiction stopper, plant medicine

Beatle... can't find who "rt" is...

curious about his/her experience

[scot98]

Ibogaine: amazing addiction stopper, plant medicine

Anne, Rt is red thread12.
This does sound really interesting, I wonder if dosage has any effect on the outcome ? I know very little about the stuff but RT's x husbands experience does not sound great, albeit a long time ago.

[anne1232]

Ibogaine: amazing addiction stopper, plant medicine

Ibogaine is nearly impossible to explain

It is not a 'trip.' Some people with serious neurological issues should probably avoid it. In Thailand, they making diffinitve claims that it greatly improves or 'cures' schizophrenia and bi-polarity. I know one bi-polar that was absolutely cured, 100% of it. Ibog gives the experience you need, not what you think you want. Hard to explain.

[c0ffee]

Ibogaine: amazing addiction stopper, plant medicine

no way to somehow get this stuff into the US by ordering it online or something? there's gotta be a way. no??