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[Doggygirl]

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My friend who I trust for a whole long list of reasons - way more than most MD's when it comes to knowledge of thyroid issues - says that she would rather jump off a bridge than ingest supplements containing soy isoflavones. (this is for people with thyroid issues who are female) Actually, that's not exactly how she said it but I toned it down a bit.

The only soy I have ingested knowingly since finding out it's a problem is occassional soy sauce as fermented soy is typically an exception. I just don't want to take any chances - you saw the before and after pictures and the weight issues were only part of the problem. I wouldn't trade away the changes on the inside either. So I take NO chances knowingly with soy.

The Kudzu bottles really should be labeled as containing soy isoflavones and I hope RJ will consider that.

DG

[Lila]

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Thanks for telling me, DG. I am disappointed, but good to know.
Thank you for finding out about this.
Lila

[vlad]

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beatle;489606 wrote: I am convinced there is a connection between thyroid functioning and alcohol problems. I don't know what it is, but my drinking got out of control right around the time my thyroid slowed down.

Ditto, this happened to me when on carbimazole to slow my thyroid down. Whenever they lowered my dose, I struggled, it was like I was craving the carbimazole - I drank to suppress that feeling.

I've looked on the web many times for evidence of a connection but can never find one.

[Leelou]

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I read all your posts, and ....

Research Iodine! Especially for thyroid issues, but as well - general health. You WILL be amazed about the help this gives you. I can not encourage you all enough. Lugol solution is in USA, look in to it, it is something that will help so many. If you are not sure, or need some links, PM me...this is a HUGE boost for many.

[Lila]

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hi LeeLou
I pm'd you, but don't we get enough from table salt, which is added to so much food...?
Lila

[Doggygirl]

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What I have read suggests that most Americans get enough in iodized salt. I'm no expert myself - that's just what I've read.

DG

[beatle]

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I'm not sure if the iodine in table salt is enough, or of the right construction. I have been told to take kelp tablets. This is supposed to be better.

[Lila]

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does anyone know about NSI Kudzu? NSI is the Vitacost brand and I have some of that, too. I think I will call Vitacost and ask them if there is any soy in their product.

[Lila]

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ok I just called Vitacost and they say there is no soy in it, should I trust them?

[beatle]

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As a rule, I never trust anyone, and always ask for verification. That said, I think Vitacost is a reputable company, no? (I was recommended to it by Jason products, which I trust very much). On the other hand, you could just get an unknowledgeable person giving you the wrong information.

I'm still confused about why kudzu has soy products. Are those soy isoflavones ADDED?

And does it really matter in such a small amount? (I was led to believe that people with thyroid problems should limit soy products, not cut them out)

[Doggygirl]

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beatle;493377 wrote:
And does it really matter in such a small amount? (I was led to believe that people with thyroid problems should limit soy products, not cut them out)

The folks I interact with directly are people who have battled thyroid problems for many years, and they take NO risks AT ALL with unfermented soy. Fermented soy is a different matter. It's really an individual choice at the end of the day. But given the issues I've dealt with over the last several many years where low thyroid was a contributing factor to problems, I'm not going to knowingly eat any unfermented soy. (my problems were small compared to many, especially those with Hashimotots .....) I'm sure some has slipped through the cracks though - no matter how hard I try to read every label...

2 more cents..
DG

[nancy]

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I seem to remember hearing that alcohol problems cause thyroid problems, among other metabolic disturbances. So thyroid probs are the result not necessarily the cause.

Anyone know about this?

[beatle]

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Nancy, I'd be very interested to find out about that. As I have mentioned, I am convinced that there is some kind of connection between thyroid and alcohol problems. However, my experience was that my alcohol abuse started around the same time my thyroid problems were detected. So my assumption has been that there is a commonality-- some link, but not necessarily cause and effect.

In fact, in my case, I would have guessed the thyroid disorder to have precursed the alcohol disorder, but this is not necessarily the case. It depends on when and how you diagnose a problem, doesn't it?

DG, I am going to look into this soy thing more. Darnit. But whoever said it would be easy being an alcoholic vegetarian with hypothyroidism?

[Lila]

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yes...all very interesting. And Beatle, why would soy be added to kudzu? I am trusting the people at Vitacost; they said there was no soy in the NSI kudzu, so I do hope they are right.
I had thyroid problems before um, you know...
What about the kelp/iodine thing? Let me know if you learn more! And do you eat cheese at least? I can't imagine!

[C&C Mom]

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Do not believe what they told you. I started the thread on Kudzu & thyroid. I have zero thyroid - mine got radiated - and I was popping Kudzu and not drinking at all. This is great - right? My face started to look really puffy and I had not a drink in 7-9 days. Each day was worse than the previous.

I had a little ER situation with my heart - erratic heartbeats, fast pulse, slow pulse, pressure high then low. VERY WEIRD. I fessed up & told the doc I had started Kudzu 7-9 days before. The doc told me to get off the Kudzu - he wasn't overly familar with it but said the coincidence of my thyroid dropping and the immediate side effcts pointed to the kudzu. Got a nice lecture on people with my condition taking weird supplements without clinical proof they won't kill someone like me.

I researched when I got home on the internet. Right on the little bottle of all Nature's Way & My Way Out kudzu says the ingredient daidzen - a soy isoflavone. I researched all kinds of thyroid and soy isoflavone issues and they say it will negatively impact thyroid - making you more hypothyroid. Well if you have zero thyroid - it ain't a good thing. It should be on the labels.

I could have died if I kept taking it - really. Surprised I didn't have heart failure. MY FAULT for not checking with MY DOCTORS before taking it as RJ mentions. I will not take it - and it did work for the cravings but can't have no thyroid function either.

Side bar - I have been off the kudzu 2 weeks now - hate to say I crave the drink and have had some - don't know what to do - haven't gone to get thyroid re-checked but I look fantastic!! Even 3 moms at pick up said how great I looked compared to a few weeks ago - so???? I feel like my thyroid is getting back to normal. Really.