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    #16
    lithium orotate again.

    Hey All,

    I have received my orotate and have been taking 2 tablets a day for 5 days now. No major noticeable effect. One note is a really dry mouth occuring--not a big deal (maybe evidence its getting where it's supposed to?). I'm in the US and ordered the Doctors Best from here (no particular reason choosing this site) :

    Doctor's Best Lithium Orotate -- 200 Tablets - Vitacost

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      #17
      lithium orotate again.

      Hi maslow. Thats interesting about the dry mouth bit. I didnt have that at all and I am on double your dose.It just shows how our individual chemistry can change the way the exact same supplement works in each person. We are even on the same brand. Hmmm weird! It will be interesting to see how the others get on. I have spent some time flicking through the archives on lithium orotate. The same pattern seems to occur. There are those who swear by it and those who say it did nothing for them. One of the mysteries of life! Are you taking the choline and folic acid with it?
      I am a sobriety tart. AA/Smart/RR philosophy, meds/diet/exercise/prayer,rabbbits feet/four leaf clovers/horseshoes. Yes please.I will have them all thank you very much.Bring them on


      There is no way the bottle is going to be stronger than I am.

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        #18
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        Hey Coal,
        Seems the dry mouth is gone (for now), never really was a bother. Continuing with 2 a day for now and may move to 3 at some point. I take a multivitamin which has the folic acid, but do not take the choline. I'll look into that. Things going well for you?

        Maslow

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          #19
          lithium orotate again.

          Things are going fine thanks. Its just weird adjusting to sobriety. I always heard the AA crew saying that putting down the drink was the easy bit-it was working out how to live afterwards that was the tricky bit. I never really believed that-putting down the drink was always the holy grail for me. However I am starting to see what they are on about.At the moment I am just watching a lot of tv combined with a few family visits. In my heart I know I havent really started to deal with this whole sober thing yet. It took me by suprise! Aw well Im sure I will adjust and work it out. Good luck.
          I am a sobriety tart. AA/Smart/RR philosophy, meds/diet/exercise/prayer,rabbbits feet/four leaf clovers/horseshoes. Yes please.I will have them all thank you very much.Bring them on


          There is no way the bottle is going to be stronger than I am.

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            #20
            lithium orotate again.

            I LOVE the l.o. I have such a feeling of contentment and hardly any cravings. Have been taking it with folic acid, but not choline. How does the choline enhance it. I am taking the Advanced Research Brand. I logged into the link for l.o. someone provided and theirs is the cheapest and according to them the original developers, so my next order will be from them. Also am having fewer anxiety/helpless dreams.
            Enlightened by MWO

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              #21
              lithium orotate again.

              It helps to transport the lithium into the cells where its needed to work. It also helps with fatty liver by removing fat which is good news for people like us. I read somewhere that taking it with coffee was good as it helped to keep the vital ingredient intact. Couldnt find a study for that last bit but I do it anyway!Bulk Choline Bitartrate Powder
              I am a sobriety tart. AA/Smart/RR philosophy, meds/diet/exercise/prayer,rabbbits feet/four leaf clovers/horseshoes. Yes please.I will have them all thank you very much.Bring them on


              There is no way the bottle is going to be stronger than I am.

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                #22
                lithium orotate again.

                Thanks Coalfire, Mas and everyone who contributed to this helpful thread. CF, I didn't realize there was another kind of lithium, I will def try this. I had to back off the bac, so this is my next step. This, plus renewing my supplements efforts. I like the idea of reducing my meds since I'm already on so many for hypertension.

                Was talking to my cousin last night about what to do when you're isolated and lonely (for me this is due to trying to find something to keep me occupied during the evenings/witching hours). Hard to do, unless you take on a boyfriend or something, which I don't feel like doing. I feel like it's time to relocate again and start over yet again.

                Would like to think LO will help. Thanks again.

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                  #23
                  lithium orotate again.

                  Yes the whole isolation thing is a HUGE part of our problem I think. Someone said on MWO that they drank to be social and ended up more isolated than they ever were in their lives before. Boy could I ever relate to that! I isolated myself terribly over the years. My behaviour could be so unpredictable with alcohol in me I preferred to drink alone. I thought it was safer.Madness. I never realised the hole I was digging for myself and the years pass before you know it. So I too am trying to dig myself out of this self imposed prisoner lifestyle. I would love to move away and start again but I cant. The joys of a mortgage Im afraid. If you could give yourself a fresh start then I dont see why not. I know AA talk about the pitfalls of trying"a geographical cure" but at the same time there is such a rut element to addiction and sometimes taking one life changing positive step can lead to another and another.Anything beats sitting there drinking and drinking thats for sure.Im trying to make my home a more social place. I have 2 young people staying here this weekend and the atmosphere in the house is transformed. IIm sorry the Baclofen didnt work out for you. Its good that you are willing so quickly to try something else. Every time something failed I went into a slump for months(at least) but we will say months for now. Let us know how you get on with the lithium. I check in on this thread every few days and I love to see how people are doing.
                  I am a sobriety tart. AA/Smart/RR philosophy, meds/diet/exercise/prayer,rabbbits feet/four leaf clovers/horseshoes. Yes please.I will have them all thank you very much.Bring them on


                  There is no way the bottle is going to be stronger than I am.

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                    #24
                    lithium orotate again.

                    Note from customer product review on Amazon...

                    Note: take lithium apart from any source of magnesium (I usually take it in the morning before I eat). Magnesium competes with lithium for absorption.
                    Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

                    Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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                      #25
                      lithium orotate again.

                      Hi beatle I had just copied your post from the meds section and was about to paste it here!:goodjob: ps if anyone is following this I still havent touched a drink since starting LO.There is a thread in the meds section called Baclofen prn? which deals with the stage I am at now.
                      I am a sobriety tart. AA/Smart/RR philosophy, meds/diet/exercise/prayer,rabbbits feet/four leaf clovers/horseshoes. Yes please.I will have them all thank you very much.Bring them on


                      There is no way the bottle is going to be stronger than I am.

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                        #26
                        lithium orotate again.

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                          #27
                          lithium orotate again.

                          Hi everyone, forgive me in advance for asking questions perhaps already answered, but I'm weak in the head and fingers today and could use some direct help with the lithium and choline and stuff.

                          Thanks to you Coalfire,SK and I think Beatle, I bought and started taking LO. I've also purchased piracetam for mental focus, and thought I bought the choline to take with that to enhance it's effects, but see here that it is supposed to be taken with LO too. Or do I have it all mixed up?

                          I also took the opportunity to order FLEX and more Gaba.

                          I'm taking 240 mg LO and one pill of Choline/Inositol (250 ea). I'm also starting a diet Monday and doing my best yesterday and today and tomorrow to go AF. Restarted tryptophan and fish oil this week also. And liquid multi B and other stuff. So easy to fall off the supplements wagon when there are so many of them; like the All-One powder I forgot to mention.

                          More experiences on Lithium Orotate would be welcomed, if anyone lurking out there has some good/bad/useful info. Thanks again for this thread.

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                            #28
                            lithium orotate again.

                            Question for you LO experts, is it supposed to make you really tired? I took Friday off, partly due to knowing I'd be hung over, but also because I was just tired on the LO. I doubled my dose this AM, Saturday, and slept from 2-5, and now it's 10pm and I'm ready to go to sleep again!

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                              #29
                              lithium orotate again.

                              Hi Brunn yes it made me tired for a few days. I described it in my first few posts like a mild benzo effect. This wears off gradually over the course of the first week and by the end of the week I was just left with just a calmed evened out feeling. The benefits peaked around day 14-20 in a way that I could actually feel. I noticed another gradual uplift around day 30 and another slight one this week ie day 47. You asked about choline. It helps to transport the lithium into the cells where it actually works as does folic acid. Geranium is supposed to help with this too but I havent tried it yet. I now take anything from between 3 and 6 a day depending on the day. It appears to be dose specific for me anyway. If I miss a few doses I can feel it. I would love to hear other peoples experiences of it too.If you go way back through the archives there is one or 2 people who swear by it but nobody has been raving about it recently or not in the way I have been anyway.One thing about MWO though is that it is only a matter of time...PS Espoir,ToughinTexas and Stellar are 3 previous members who said LO helped them to stop drinking. None of them have been around for a while though. I like to read about them .At least I know Im not alone. PS Brunn what about those hormones in your new diet? They wouldnt interfere with your moods would they? I am just concerned in case the effects of LO and hcg get "mixed up in your mind-"if you know what I mean.
                              I am a sobriety tart. AA/Smart/RR philosophy, meds/diet/exercise/prayer,rabbbits feet/four leaf clovers/horseshoes. Yes please.I will have them all thank you very much.Bring them on


                              There is no way the bottle is going to be stronger than I am.

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                                #30
                                lithium orotate again.

                                Thanks Coal,

                                I missed that because I don't know what a benzo is and just took the "tiredness/calmness" description you provided; but didn't expect to be knocked out for 15 hours over a 24 hour period. :H Almost bac-like somnolesence.

                                Plus, I took it Thurs/Friday, not yesterday (Saturday), so not sure if it would still be the LO doing this - I slept alot of Friday (took the day off) AND Saturday. Just took a smaller dose today (120) with choline, so I'll see how it impacts me. It's about to be Sunday night and that's not always a calm night for me, is usually a difficult night to avoid the AL. The fact that I can even THINK of a 50/50 chance of having an AF night is a whole new experience to me. It happened due to hitting bottom physically before the LO, but maybe it will last BECAUSE of the LO.

                                You have a great memory, damn - (don't get pissed at me because mine sucks, I DO work at it, it's not just laziness). To address your concern about the diet, I'm not on HCG yet, so can't attribute anything to that yet. Except for the carb loading which started Saturday, and of course that will make anyone want a nap, right? My usual carb is AL, so maybe the non-AL carb loading plus the tiny bit of LO (I had two pills Fri, one pill Thurs) are working together.

                                Since I can't take bac or topa without significant SEs (HBP or big hair loss), I'm def needing something. I appreciate you posting this VERY much.

                                I'll keep up on this with you. I don't start the HCG til Tuesday or later, depending on when it FINALLY arrives here. The doctor said they have good HCG success with AL's (so long as the AL is AF = low carb), so I shouldn't be in any direct danger from that nor interactions with any drugs I'm on, however, I will keep in mind the LO and the HCG idea. Maybe I'll stop the LO the day I start the HCG and just see if I can maintain AF - if not, I'll add the LO back in and report the results.

                                As an afterthought, I'm on three hypertensives, and they tend to have the impact of making me tired, although I've adjusted to it over the years. It could be more THAT than HCG that I need to watch for when it comes to the fatigue. Hmmm.

                                Have a great Sunday!

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