Your mission Beatle, should you...

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choose to accept it, is this: (and for anyone else who might be interested!)

Having seen how better living through chemicals is possible, I'm much more open to the idea of supplements than I used to be. I used to think that taking pills was unnecessary, and even somehow strangely weak, but now I realise that your quality of life can really be enhanced with a few well chosen tablets. That being said, however, I still don't want to take 50 tablets everyday. Not counting baclofen, I want to take about 5. So, which 5 supplements would you suggest, with an eye to mental, and overall wellbeing.

Just 5 please Beatle!

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Your mission Beatle, should you...

Sorry about the double posting of this thread, not sure what happened.

[Bruunhilde]

Your mission Beatle, should you...

Hi Bleep,

I'd say add 2-4 grams fish oil for heart health and cholesterol.
I also use a fiber supplement and endur-acin & pantethine for my cholesterol.
I don't know if All One has 1500 mg calcium but that's what all women should be taking daily - I don't know what men should take, maybe the same. And you need magnesium and D for it to be absorbed, you can find all three packaged in one pill sometimes, but mostly you'll find you need more D so I take D along with a cal-mag supplement.
I would add these all to the All-One and you should be good.
Sorry I've been out of touch - I can't post emails or posts on my other computer, so I'm using my work pc to touch base. beatle, I've sent you two emails asking a question because I have no other way to communicate with you (see PM for details).

Cheers,
B

[bleep]

Your mission Beatle, should you...

Thanks Sheri - I hadn't even thought of a powder, but it makes sense, and as you say, is better than handfuls of pills! I'll look into that.

Bruun! Long time no see, I hope you're keeping well? Isn't fish stuff good for your brain as well? That's what I'm really after - brain and general health. Isn't vit D synthesised by being in sunlight? If that's the case, I should be sorted on that front.

[Bruunhilde]

Your mission Beatle, should you...

Hey bleep,

I have a computer problem which is why I'm not posting anymore, right now I'm posting from work which is not good but I couldn't stand it anymore!

If you are dark skinned, you'll absorb less D from the sun. If you are light skinned, you could get skin cancer from too much sun - you can do a blood test to see what your D level is at the doctor.

I have some special info about brain - got a book on GPC, taking GPC with PS and AC is the latest and greatest info on mind/memory/brain fixing.

GPC = GlycerolPhosphoCholine
PS = PhosphatidylSerine
AC =AcetylCarnitine

And yes, your brain needs fish oil!

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Your mission Beatle, should you...

I'm Caucasian, but tan well. We live in a very sunny country, so I'm sure I pick up enough. I've never heard of anybody here ever having an issue with vit D.

I've tried PS, but didn't find it to do anything appreciable. I tried it for 2 months, then ran out and didn't bother getting more. Mine were powdered capsules though, and I'm sure Beatle said something about an oil or something? I'll look into those other 2, thanks for the tip!

[Determinator]

Your mission Beatle, should you...

if you eat a nutritionally dense diet such as paleo/primal and you get adequate sun, sleep and exercise there will be very little in supplementation you will need unless your trying to treat a specific ailment.
that being said, I do take fish oil daily (a LOT) like 6 times the amount it recommends you take on the bottle. I wouldn't need to take any but getting good salmon here in the desert is tough.
i also take 500mg magnesium in the evening and some C.
if I'm exercising really hard or have AL or sugar cravings I'll take 6 to 15 grams of L Glutamine in water.
in winter I take vit D

[Guest]

Your mission Beatle, should you...

Determinator;1138004 wrote: if you eat a nutritionally dense diet such as paleo/primal and you get adequate sun, sleep and exercise there will be very little in supplementation you will need unless your trying to treat a specific ailment.
that being said, I do take fish oil daily (a LOT) like 6 times the amount it recommends you take on the bottle. I wouldn't need to take any but getting good salmon here in the desert is tough.
i also take 500mg magnesium in the evening and some C.
if I'm exercising really hard or have AL or sugar cravings I'll take 6 to 15 grams of L Glutamine in water.
in winter I take vit D

Bob on here. I am advised by a top nutritionist and they recommend minimal supplements. I take high-dose calcium when I remember because I was once diagnosed with bone density loss after 5 years of training induced ammenorhea - but also eat yoghurt and cottage cheese on a daily basis. If I'm training hard or feel a cold coming on I use high dose vit c and l-glut.

I simply do not feel the need for all these pills and potions, especially since I've had biochemists and pharmacists confirm a lot of supplements simply aren't absorbed by the body anyway.

Real food, no smoking, reduce alcohol intake and exercise are recommended - and I don't agree with supplimentation in lieu of reducing smoking/drinking. Yes a bit harsh but it feels to me like a form of justification, or even a losing battle. Pointless!

[RingingCedars]

Your mission Beatle, should you...

bleep;1137627 wrote: choose to accept it, is this: (and for anyone else who might be interested!)

Having seen how better living through chemicals is possible, I'm much more open to the idea of supplements than I used to be. I used to think that taking pills was unnecessary, and even somehow strangely weak, but now I realise that your quality of life can really be enhanced with a few well chosen tablets. That being said, however, I still don't want to take 50 tablets everyday. Not counting baclofen, I want to take about 5. So, which 5 supplements would you suggest, with an eye to mental, and overall wellbeing.

Just 5 please Beatle!

I'm up early and feel inclined to post to some of you. While there are some good suggestions there are also some things that concern me. I will offer my level of expertise and experience. Take what you will. From what I've read The All One sounds like a good supplement but I have not read the dosages that are consumed in one serving. The body can only absorb so much of different nutrients in one digestion and therefore just like eating is recommended more than once per day so are highly absorbed supplements(bioenergetically formulated). Quality fish oils that have been conscientiously harvested and rigourously tested really only need be taken in 1000mg doses a couple of times per day but all in one is not really harmful. If you have a specific health condition then more is necessary. Never underestimate the need for 6-8 glasses of pure naturally balanced mineralized water. No chlorine and flouridation. I am a big believer in CoEnzyme Q 10(ubiquinone) for every cell with particular influence on heart, nerve and brain function. Dosage would be reasonable at 200mg per day divided doses. I will say again, it is not just the supplements name but it's quality and dosage that is critical for helping and not doing harm. Hippocratic Oath. I really believe in taking whey protein isolate (no artificial anything added)-again the amount depends on a number of factors like current health and goals. Of course eat lots of veggies and fruits(focus is on veggies). Keep in mind that our foods growing conditions are such that about 50% of the nutrients that used to be present in abundance are sorely depleted. Hence a good absorbed multi with each meal. I think that would be my top five and is pretty much mine. I tend to take a few others for specific health prevention and maintenance due to my age and history. I used to do a lot of what I call pot shotting with supplements but over the years have learned a thing or two.. Good luck!

[RingingCedars]

Your mission Beatle, should you...

Bruunhilde;1137763 wrote: Hi Bleep,

I'd say add 2-4 grams fish oil for heart health and cholesterol.
I also use a fiber supplement and endur-acin & pantethine for my cholesterol.
I don't know if All One has 1500 mg calcium but that's what all women should be taking daily - I don't know what men should take, maybe the same. And you need magnesium and D for it to be absorbed, you can find all three packaged in one pill sometimes, but mostly you'll find you need more D so I take D along with a cal-mag supplement.
I would add these all to the All-One and you should be good.
Sorry I've been out of touch - I can't post emails or posts on my other computer, so I'm using my work pc to touch base. beatle, I've sent you two emails asking a question because I have no other way to communicate with you (see PM for details).

Cheers,
B

Women need different calcium levels at different ages. And vegetarians tend to need more believe it or not. Due to high grain intake they tend to be acidic and that's when the body leaches calcium from the bones to neutralize the blood. We tend to be more acidic with age also and that combined with hormonal changes requires a higher calcium intake. Still only about 1000mg is needed with co factors for absorption(much more than just Magnesium and D) and MUST be taken in divided doses. Calcium is the most poorly absorbed mineral and you risk calcium deposits (ie bone spurs/stones) building up as the body can only absorb 300-350 mg in one serving. Calcium should be taken with food for the proper pH to enhance absorption.

[RingingCedars]

Your mission Beatle, should you...

Bruunhilde;1137774 wrote: Hey bleep,

I have a computer problem which is why I'm not posting anymore, right now I'm posting from work which is not good but I couldn't stand it anymore!

If you are dark skinned, you'll absorb less D from the sun. If you are light skinned, you could get skin cancer from too much sun - you can do a blood test to see what your D level is at the doctor.

I have some special info about brain - got a book on GPC, taking GPC with PS and AC is the latest and greatest info on mind/memory/brain fixing.

GPC = GlycerolPhosphoCholine
PS = PhosphatidylSerine
AC =AcetylCarnitine

And yes, your brain needs fish oil!

Exposing a fair bit of skin for 20 minutes per day can net you up to 20,000 IU. Of course, without sunblock which I never use. I wish I lived where you do!

[RingingCedars]

Your mission Beatle, should you...

bleep;1137791 wrote: I'm Caucasian, but tan well. We live in a very sunny country, so I'm sure I pick up enough. I've never heard of anybody here ever having an issue with vit D.

I've tried PS, but didn't find it to do anything appreciable. I tried it for 2 months, then ran out and didn't bother getting more. Mine were powdered capsules though, and I'm sure Beatle said something about an oil or something? I'll look into those other 2, thanks for the tip!

PS, Choline, Ginkgo, coconut oil and CoQ10 are some of the best brain nutrients--proven. Bacopa seems to be a new kid on the block with promise. I suspect the quality and quantity you took of PS wasn't enough. Please don't equate price with quality always. Lots of shiksters on the market.

[RingingCedars]

Your mission Beatle, should you...

Determinator;1138004 wrote: if you eat a nutritionally dense diet such as paleo/primal and you get adequate sun, sleep and exercise there will be very little in supplementation you will need unless your trying to treat a specific ailment.
that being said, I do take fish oil daily (a LOT) like 6 times the amount it recommends you take on the bottle. I wouldn't need to take any but getting good salmon here in the desert is tough.
i also take 500mg magnesium in the evening and some C.
if I'm exercising really hard or have AL or sugar cravings I'll take 6 to 15 grams of L Glutamine in water.
in winter I take vit D

Det that's a pile of fish oil you are taking. I suspect if you had a more rounded out program you wouldn't need that much. I guess that you are not getting adequate amounts of other nutrients that will become evident with time. I'm sure you have done your homework on good sources.

[RingingCedars]

Your mission Beatle, should you...

Ukblonde;1138064 wrote: Bob on here. I am advised by a top nutritionist and they recommend minimal supplements. I take high-dose calcium when I remember because I was once diagnosed with bone density loss after 5 years of training induced ammenorhea - but also eat yoghurt and cottage cheese on a daily basis. If I'm training hard or feel a cold coming on I use high dose vit c and l-glut.

I simply do not feel the need for all these pills and potions, especially since I've had biochemists and pharmacists confirm a lot of supplements simply aren't absorbed by the body anyway.

Real food, no smoking, reduce alcohol intake and exercise are recommended - and I don't agree with supplimentation in lieu of reducing smoking/drinking. Yes a bit harsh but it feels to me like a form of justification, or even a losing battle. Pointless!

You are young my dear and missing these nutrients will catch up to you. You can have biochemist, pharmacist tag your name but they are medically trained. Just saying. You can have MD, ND, RNCP, CH, DH or whatever attached to your name but does not guarantee they know all the facts and I ain't saying I know them all. You would be wise to divide that calcium up into smaller doses my dear.

[RingingCedars]

Your mission Beatle, should you...

Got yer PM Zenners! Thanks! I am up too early and you is up too late! lol We have to talk about this sometime. xo