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[RingingCedars]

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So then, the solutions are idealistic and possible in the future. However, we don't have that long, was my thoughts. I googled "thrive the movie" and came up with the link below. I have to say it raises some suspicions of alignment here. Is it simply a ploy to slow down a resistance. Befriend the troubled masses by offering some concessions and proof of the atrocities that have been committed so far. I wonder why it doesn't talk more about the involuntary tax system we've been duped into believing we are bound to? I wonder at David Icke being interviewed. I will keep investigating and STUDYING the freemanitoba (Dean Clifford) site for immediate answers.
Here's the review.
News headlines: "THRIVE" MOVIE: DON'T FALL FOR IT!

[RedThread12]

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RC: Wow. I could never have anticipated your response.

I, and so many of my friends and community, are already doing a lot of what is suggested. Find the people in your community who are, too. They'll be there, somewhere. So many of the "solutions" are NOT idealistic and possible in the future. They are now. What do you eat? Where do you buy your food? What businesses do you support? If you have a hard time figuring out how to make simple changes that, done on mass scales, would make a huge difference, PM me, call me, talk to me!

I've been banking at a "local" bank whose owner is now in the national spotlight around the solar panel company debacle. I haven't had time to understand it very much, but I will be shifting my banking to a smaller, still local, bank whose head is not involved in what appears to be multi-billion dollar scheme which includes the presidency that I had so much "hope" for.

Of course, there will be opposition and "proof" that the premise is wrong. But actually, who gives a flying f**k whether it's absolutely true, partly true, or pure bunk? I certainly don't. If it helps anyone stop and consider that there may be things happening in our "systems" that are not apparent, and are not in the best interest of ALL of us; and that creates the impetus to consider things more deeply, then good enough.

Personally, I'm not much influenced by who says yea and who says nay. There will always be people to say both. It's about what resonates as truth and reality for me, and how my life is enlivened or . . . not, by the world-view I choose.

I actually have no belief about what is "true" or not about the topics "Thrive" addresses. But I do love how it expands my universe of possibilities about how things are in the world. I didn't post the link in order to trigger belief and dis-belief. More like, wow . . . if this is possible, and I didn't know it, what else is possible? In all directions.

[Supercrew]

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Free Markets vs Socialism -- The First American Lesson | Tea Party Tribune - Tea Party & Political News

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrPGoPFRUdc&feature=related[/video]]Occupy Wall Street Protester Wants College Paid For Because That's What He Wants - YouTube

I'm not sure what this has to do with sobriety and holistic healing, make sure you see both sides.

[RingingCedars]

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Red, as I said, I love how Thrive exposes how our world is being manipulated and controlled on so many levels. I live in a very small economically depressed town. If you haven't noticed, small towns are drying up. I've operated a health food store here since 1995. I've seen products and therapies denied or cut that do no harm. I've carried organic foods and supported local farmers. The fact is that people are taxed, slapped with licenses and fees and litigated to bankruptcy and death. Those are the facts I see. And it is my responsibility to practice due diligence to know who, when, where and why this is happening to humanity. The remedies the movie proposes are great, however, I believe we need remedies that are going to affect changes more immediately than the long term solutions proposed in the movie. I am all for voting with our dollars. The problem is our dollars have been robbed from us and many don't have the means to even vote with their dollars anymore if they wanted to. The whole educational, governmental, monetary and health care(sick care) system is designed to weaken and control us. I have to go deeper than just saying vote with your dollars. I commend you for making the changes you are implementing and please keep doing that. I would encourage you to dig deeper and "lift the veil". Peace All.

[RingingCedars]

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Supercrew;1216350 wrote: Free Markets vs Socialism -- The First American Lesson | Tea Party Tribune - Tea Party & Political News

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrPGoPFRUdc&feature=related[/video]]Occupy Wall Street Protester Wants College Paid For Because That's What He Wants - YouTube

I'm not sure what this has to do with sobriety and holistic healing, make sure you see both sides.

Did you even read my post by Naomi Wolfe?? I personally do not think we would have so much addiction if government was actually for the people and not the corporations.

[Supercrew]

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I read the Naomi Wolfe propaganda piece. She is pushing the OWS message. There are no facts stated that support her theory regarding the Federal Government is working in unison with the local authorities. As far as the 99% versus the 1%, I think it's more like 1% versus 1% and there are alot of people like myself who watch the protesters on the news who don't even know what they are protesting and think what are they trying to get accomplished? Then I researched it and found out the the person who started the OWS movement is a professor who teaches in Europe, and he is for socialism. Well socialism doesn't work. I will agree that our government has many, many problems, and as for the news regarding the "insider trading" in congress, it was covered on 60 minutes 2 weeks ago, and they are holding hearings on it. But the Occupy movement is a joke to me and at least 95% of the 99% they are claiming to represent.

[TRUCKER123]

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Hi Everyone, I have so much on my mind...so if i bounce around bare with me..First off THE RICH ARE STICKING IT UP... ALL OUR...'S And if you think your middle class think again.I was at a hometown sporting event yesterday pro football eagles against patriots,I was invited would not pay to see a bunch of MILLIONARE'S idiots, throw a lopped sidded bowl around. There's all these ppl stuffed in a game and all pissed off cause are team is is loosing so i sit back drink my beer and watch the fight's..Now my mind is thinking about the ppl downtown protesting against rich vs poor btw im with the poor folk. Why because..This is sad a man 61 yr's oldshopping with his familyfell to the ground was having a heartattack ppl just tramped on the guy to get the SALE,Some crazy women start's spraying ppl with maze JUST because she couldn't get a A XBOX some game you play on the tv ..Anyway i couldn't but think what the ppl with money are thinking CHINA. Anyway thank's for letting me blow off some steam.Peace Trucker

[Lila]

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I totally agree, Trucker.

[Supercrew]

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First off THE RICH ARE STICKING IT UP... ALL OUR...'S

How are the rich doing this? Should they be forced to give their money to the protesters? What makes the rich so different from the poor or the middle class? On the scale of the world's wealth chart I am sure many in this forum would be considered rich as opposed to the poor people in all of the 3rd world countries. If we had a world economy should they take the money from you that you earned to even things up with the people living in shanty towns in South America?

I have come to find out, especially during my battle with alcohol, that you get what you earn. Deserve has nothing to do with it. If you aren't happy with YOUR current situation, take action and change YOUR situation. Trying to get change in you by trying to force others to change their ways, and systems to benefit you doesn't get the job done. Change comes from within.

[TRUCKER123]

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Yea change does come with in. You say what What makes the rich so different from the middle class and poor. Are you frgging living in the real world. YEA the rich should give to the poor you EVER PICK UP A BIBLE.And hell yeah I'LL always be fore the poor and disvantaged! Isn't it amazing how fast we can move some poor ppl or not empolyed or because they lost there home's to crooked gov/ppl. To the jail But the rich get a free ticket.

[Lila]

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has anyone seen the movie Inside Job?

[Supercrew]

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YEA the rich should give to the poor

So if I work hard and earn money for myself and my family I should be forced to give it to people who don't work or who can't manage their money as well as me?

But the rich get a free ticket.

The rich get a free ticket? Or did the earn money to pay for their ticket? There is nothing free in this world, and the problem is most people want something for nothing. I agree with giving charity to those in need, but I don't want to be forced to give handouts to people who are unmotivated or too lazy to go out and earn for themselves.

If I don't have what I want in life I develop a plan and work harder until I reach my goal. I don't protest the rich folk and the government for them to spread the wealth.

[TRUCKER123]

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Is some one knocking on your door asking for money?Are you being forced to give monies to the gov?What a joke the RICH spreading the WEALTH ...you no where it spread's right in your /there pockets.

[Supercrew]

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Lila;1216703 wrote: has anyone seen the movie Inside Job?

I haven't seen it but I read about it. Don't get me wrong, because I lost alot of money due to the economic meltdown, and I do feel that the corporations and people responsible should be held accountable and not be able to walk away with golden parachutes like they did. But how is "Occupy" helping? You change things in this country in 2 ways. You either do it with your vote or you do it with your wallet. Blocking traffic that I am sitting in or blocking access to buildings without a clear cut goal of what you are trying to accomplish helps no one. In fact it costs us millions of dollars as tax payers to pay for the police forces to oversee these Occupy protests.

[Supercrew]

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TRUCKER123;1216727 wrote: Is some one knocking on your door asking for money?Are you being forced to give monies to the gov?What a joke the RICH spreading the WEALTH ...you no where it spread's right in your /there pockets.

I wish I was one of the "rich 1%", but I am just an ordinary taxpaying American citizen. I am forced to shell out more in taxes to the government if I earn more money by working. Instead of being mad at rich people you might want to look in the mirror to see what might be holding you back from reaching your financial goals.