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    If you are interested at all in what goes on with the drug industry, medication, natural healing, vitamins, and so much more, please read this article.

    Heck, just please read this article.

    I read articles all the time, dozens every day, but I just felt compelled to share this one here.

    I'm sorry I don't have a link to this article, or I would post it.

    (and I'm sorry it comes in all unformatted... I tried to reformat it as much as possible to make it readable, but it's still far from "clean".)

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    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 
Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, January 30, 2012

    Confessions of a Frustrated Pharmacist

    by Stuart Lindsey, PharmD.

    (OMNS, Jan 30, 2012) When an insider breaks ranks with pharmaceutical orthodoxy, it is time to take notice. "Whistleblower" may be an overused term, but the article that follows might be well worth readers' consideration before standing in line for their next prescription refill. - Andrew W. Saul, OMNS Editor

    I'm a registered pharmacist. I am having a difficult time with my job. I sell people drugs that are supposed to correct their various health complaints. Some medicines work like they're supposed to, but many don't. Some categories of drugs work better than others. My concern is that the outcomes of treatment I observe are so unpredictable that I would often call the entire treatment a failure in too many situations.

    How It Started
    In 1993, I graduated with a BS in Pharmaceutical Sciences from University of New Mexico. I became pharmacy manager for a small independent neighborhood drug store. Starting in the year 2000, nutrition became an integral part of our business. The anecdotal feedback from the customers who started vitamin regimens was phenomenal. That same year, my PharmD clinical rotations began with my propensity for nutritional alternatives firmly in place in my mind. On the second day of my adult medicine rotation, my preceptor at a nearby hospital informed me that he had every intention of beating this vitamin stuff out of me. I informed him that probably wouldn't happen.

    Three weeks later I was terminated from my rotations. The preceptor told my supervisor at UNM that there were acute intellectual differences that couldn't be accommodated in their program. What had I done? I was pressuring my preceptor to read an article written by an MD at a hospital in Washington state that showed if a person comes into the emergency room with a yet to be diagnosed problem and is given a 3,000-4,000 mg bolus of vitamin C, that person's chance of dying over the next ten days in ICU dropped by 57%! [1]

    One would think that someone who is an active part of the emergency room staff might find that an interesting statistic. His solution to my attempting to force him to read that article was having me removed from the program.

    Pecking Order

    The traditional role of the pharmacist in mainstream medicine is subordinate to the doctor. The doctor is responsible for most of the information that is received from and given to the patient. The pharmacist's responsibility is to reinforce the doctor's directions. The doctor and the pharmacist both want to have a positive treatment outcome, but there is a legally defined 'standard of care' looking over their shoulder.

    The training that I received to become a PharmD motivated me to become more interested in these treatment outcomes. After refilling a patient's prescriptions a few times, it becomes obvious that the expected positive outcomes often simply don't happen. It's easy to take the low road and blame it on "poor compliance by the patient." I'm sure this can explain some treatment failure outcomes, but not all. Many (indeed most) drugs such as blood pressure regulators can require several adjustments of dose or combination with alternative medicines before a positive outcome is obtained.

    Wrong Drug; Wrong Disease
    One drug misadventure is turning drugs that were originally designed for a rare (0.3% of the population) condition called Zollinger-Ellison syndrome into big pharma's treatment for occasional indigestion. These drugs are called proton-pump inhibitors (PPI). [2] After prolonged exposure to PPIs, the body's true issues of achlorhydria start to surface. [3]
    These drugs are likely to cause magnesium deficiency, among other problems. Even the FDA thinks their long-term use is unwise. [4]

    The original instructions for these drugs were for a maximum use of six weeks . . . until somebody in marketing figured out people could be on the drugs for years. Drug usage gets even more complicated when you understand excessive use of antibiotics could be the cause of the initial indigestion complaints. What you get from inserting proton pump inhibitors into this situation is a gastrointestinal nightmare. A better course of medicine in this type of case might well be a bottle of probiotic supplements (or yogurt) and a few quarts of aloe-vera juice.

    Many doctors are recognizing there are problems with overusing PPI's, but many still don't get it. An example of this is my school in NM had a lot of students going onto a nearby-impoverished area for rotations. They have blue laws in this area with no alcohol sales on Sunday. The students saw the pattern of the patients going into the clinics on Monday after abusing solvents, even gasoline vapors, and having the doctors put them on omeprazole (eg. Prilosec), long term, because their stomachs are upset. This is medicine in the real world.

    Reliability or Bias?

    Mainstream medicine and pharmacy instill into their practitioners from the beginning to be careful about where you get your information. Medical journals boast of their peer review process. When you discuss with other health professionals, invariably they will ask from which medical journal did you get your information. I actually took an elective course in pharmacy on how to evaluate a particular article for its truthfulness. The class was structured on a backbone of caution about making sure, as one read an article, that we understand that real truthfulness only comes from a few approved sources.

    I was never comfortable with this concept. Once you realized that many of these "truthfulness bastions" actually have a hidden agenda, the whole premise of this course became suspect. One of my preceptors for my doctoral program insisted that I become familiar with a particular medical journal. If I did, she said, I would be on my way to understanding the "big picture." When I expressed being a little skeptical of this journal, the teacher told me I could trust it as the journal was non-profit, and there were no editorial strings attached.

    Weirdly enough, what had started our exchange over credibility was a warm can of a diet soft drink on the teacher's desk. She drank the stuff all day. I was kidding around with her, and asked her if she had seen some controversial articles about the dangers of consuming quantities of aspartame. She scoffed at my conspiracy-theory laden point of view and I thought the subject was closed. The beginning of the next day, the teacher gave me an assignment: to hustle over to the medical library and make sure I read a paper she assured me would set me straight about my aspartame suspicions, while simultaneously demonstrating the value of getting my information from a nonprofit medical journal. It turned out that the article she wanted me to read, in the "nonprofit medical journal," was funded in its entirety by the Drug Manufacturers Association.

    Flashy Pharma Ads
    As I read the literature, I discovered that there is very decided barrier between two blocks of information: substances that can be patented vs. those substances that can't be. The can-be-patented group gets a professional discussion in eye-pleasing, four-color-print, art-like magazines. This attention to aesthetics tricks some people into interpreting, from the flashy presentation method, that the information is intrinsically truthful.

    The world's drug manufacturers do an incredibly good job using all kinds of media penetration to get the word out about their products. The drug industry's audience used to be confined to readers of medical journals and trade publications. Then, in 1997, direct-to-consumer marketing was made legal. [5]

    Personally, I don't think this kind of presentation should be allowed. I have doctor friends that say they frequently have patients that self-diagnose from TV commercials and demand the doctor write them a prescription for the advertised product. The patients then threaten the doctor, if s/he refuses their request, that they will change doctors to get the medication. One of my doctor friends says he feels like a trained seal.

    Negative Reporting on Vitamins
    A vitamin article usually doesn't get the same glossy presentation. Frequently, questionable vitamin research will be published and get blown out of proportion. A prime example of this was the clamor in the press in 2008 that vitamin E somehow caused lung cancer. [6]
    I studied this 2008 experiment [7] and found glaring errors in its execution. These errors were so obvious that the experiment shouldn't have gotten any attention, yet this article ended up virtually everywhere. Anti-vitamin spin requires this kind of research to be widely disseminated to show how "ineffectual" and even "dangerous" vitamins are. I tracked down one of the article's original authors and questioned him about the failure to define what kind of vitamin E had been studied. A simple literature hunt shows considerable difference between natural and synthetic vitamin E. This is an important distinction because most of the negative articles and subsequent treatment failures have used the synthetic form for the experiment, often because it is cheap. Natural vitamin E with mixed tocopherols and tocotrienols costs two or three times more than the synthetic form.

    Before I even got the question out of my mouth, the researcher started up, "I know, I know what you're going to say." He ended up admitting that they hadn't even considered the vitamin E type when they did the experiment. This failure to define the vitamin E type made it impossible to draw a meaningful conclusion. I asked the researcher if he realized how much damage this highly quoted article had done to vitamin credibility. If there has been anything like a retraction, I have yet to see it.

    Illness is Not Caused by Drug Deficiency

    If you've made it this far in reading this article you have discerned that I'm sympathetic to vitamin arguments. I think most diseases are some form of malnutrition. Taking the position that nutrition is the foundation to disease doesn't make medicine any simpler. You still have to figure out who has what and why. There are many disease states that are difficult to pin down using the "pharmaceutical solution to disease." A drug solution is a nice idea, in theory. It makes the assumption that the cause of a disease is so well understood that a man-made chemical commonly called 'medicine' is administered, very efficiently solving the health problem. The reality though, is medicine doesn't understand most health problems very well. A person with a heart rhythm disturbance is not low on digoxin. A child who is diagnosed with ADHD does not act that way because the child is low on Ritalin. By the same logic, a person with type II diabetes doesn't have a deficit of metformin. The flaw of medicine is the concept of managing (but not curing) a particular disease state. I'm hard pressed to name any disease state that mainstream medicine is in control of.

    Voltaire allegedly said, "Doctors are men who pour drugs of which they know little, to cure diseases of which they know less, into human beings of whom they know nothing." Maybe he overstated the problem. Maybe he didn't.
    Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

    Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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    Very enlightening - and scarily correct....
    I work in health care and can see many truths in this.
    Just today I went for an appointment regarding a sore knee - all I wanted to know was what damage was done & what did I need to do to avoid further damage (old age creeping up and father has had a knee replacement - I do not want to go that route!) - he tried to write three prescriptions and none was for supplements, all were for pain control which I DO NOT WANT, nor need!! It was incredibly hard to get my message into the orthopods brain, and he seemed quite bemused!
    I would like to see more from the person who wrote this...
    “The only courage you will ever need is the courage to live the life you want"

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      Beatle, thanks for the post! Amazing article! It almost sounds too logical... I'm not quitting my vitamines anytime soon.

      boh
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        Thanks Beatle.. Great article that I totally agree with... it pays for the big Drug companies to keep us sick and ignorant of what is really going on.

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          Thank you so much, Beatle! Really doesn't surprise me, but seeing that it comes from somebody in the "industry" makes my long term commitment to vitamins and supplements feel like the best choice! Hope everyone on this forum reads this!
          TDN
          "One day at a time."

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            Thanks for the article Beatle. I find it funny how this info is prevalent to the holistic forum, and it is exactly correct about doctors not really curing the cause of an ailment but trying to fix the symptoms, and then we have a whole section devoted to drugs to basically try to cure a bad habit. If the symptom is all the bad crap that happens when you drink, the cure is not to take a drug that makes you sick when you drink, or that makes cravings go away by changing your brain chemistry or a drug that helps you drink less. The cure is don't touch alcohol ever again. I know I am simplifying something that is really hard to accomplish for problem drinkers, it took me over 10 years to figure it out. So the cure is not easy, but it is simple.

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              Ne/Neva Eva;1254113 wrote: A family member/doctor sent this study to me last week. I'm not trying to create kerfuffle! Really!
              It's a look at mortality of 38,000 women. Mortality increased based on (self-reporting) supplement use. They took into consideration all other factors--smoking, weight, (hip-waist ratio, as well as BMI) etc...*** (see the full list at the bottom)

              The average age of the women was 61 when the study started in 1986.

              Iron supplements had a profound correlation with increased risk for mortality. But so did all the stuff that we take--most notably multivitamins, vitamin B6 and particularly (very surprisingly!) antioxidants--vitamins A and E in particular.

              It looks like calcium and vitamin D had a beneficial correlation. There isn't anything about Omega 3s.

              I haven't checked who paid for it, but the person who sent it to me is in research and mentioned that it was remarkably good, well done, and thorough research.

              Dietary Supplements and Mortality Rate in Older Women
              The Iowa Women?s Health Study

              Jaakko Mursu, PhD; Kim Robien, PhD; Lisa J. Harnack, DrPH, MPH; Kyong Park, PhD; David R. Jacobs Jr, PhD


              Background: Although dietary supplements are com- monly taken to prevent chronic disease, the long-term health consequences of many compounds are unknown.
              Methods: We assessed the use of vitamin and mineral supplements in relation to total mortality in 38 772 older women in the Iowa Women?s Health Study; mean age was 61.6 years at baseline in 1986. Supplement use was self-reported in 1986, 1997, and 2004. Through December 31, 2008, a total of 15 594 deaths (40.2%) were identi- fied through the State Health Registry of Iowa and the National Death Index.
              Results: In multivariable adjusted proportional hazards regression models, the use of multivitamins (hazard ratio, 1.06; 95% CI, 1.02-1.10; absolute risk increase, 2.4%), vitamin B6 (1.10; 1.01-1.21; 4.1%), folic acid (1.15; 1.00- 1.32; 5.9%), iron (1.10; 1.03-1.17; 3.9%), magnesium (1.08; 1.01-1.15; 3.6%), zinc (1.08; 1.01-1.15; 3.0%), and copper (1.45; 1.20-1.75; 18.0%) were associated with increased risk of total mortality when compared with corresponding nonuse.
              Use of calcium was inversely related (hazard ratio, 0.91; 95% confidence interval, 0.88-0.94; ab- solute risk reduction, 3.8%). Findings for iron and calcium were replicated in separate, shorter-term analyses (10- year, 6-year, and 4-year follow-up), each with approximately 15% of the original participants having died, starting in 1986, 1997, and 2004.
              Conclusions: In older women, several commonly used dietary vitamin and mineral supplements may be associated with increased total mortality risk; this association is strongest with supplemental iron. In contrast to the findings of many studies, calcium is associated with decreased risk.

              Arch Intern Med. 2011;171(18):1625-1633

              ...we adjusted the association for age and energy intake; in multivariable adjusted model, version 1, we additionally adjusted for educational level, place of residence, diabetes mellitus, high blood pressure, body mass index, waist to hip ratio, hormone replacement therapy, physical activity, and smoking status. For multivariable adjusted model, version 2, we added intake of alcohol, saturated fatty acids, whole grain products, fruits, and vegetables.
              My question would be, "what did they die from?" If I reported that I take supplements then I get in a car accident and die, did the supplements cause my death or even increase the odds of my death? Statistics can be used to win just about any argument. Until a coorelation between the supplement and the cause of death is stated I think it's hard to make any serious judgement that supplements cause women to die before their time. But I could see the info passed out to keep people from buying supplements instead of purchasing pharmaceuticals.

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                Attack on vitamins a fabricated scare campaign

                Media hoax exposed: Recent attack on vitamins a fabricated scare campaign

                Learn more: Media hoax exposed: Recent attack on vitamins a fabricated scare campaign

                Just thought this excerpt was a good place to start, even though it comes further down in the article:

                Caught yet again, the mainstream media has been exposed pulling off a juvenile, simplistic hoax that attempts to scare people away from good nutrition. To accomplish this hoax, they took a poorly-constructed "scientific" study published in the Archives of Internal Medicine which was itself based on erroneous conclusions (see below) and then blatantly misreported what the study data actually showed.

                This journal is owned, not surprisingly, by the American Medical Association, which has a long and sordid history of openly attacking vitamins and nutrition, even to the point of committing crimes that violate federal law. Remember, the AMA has been found guilty of conspiracy in federal courts: What the American Medical Association hopes you never learn about its true history
                Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

                Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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                  If the quoted post from Ne (in grey in Supercrew's post) -- which she subsequently deleted -- worries you, please see:

                  CRN Calls New Study on Supplements and Mortality 'A Hunt For Harm' -- WASHINGTON, Oct. 10, 2011 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ --
                  Media hoax exposed: Recent attack on vitamins a fabricated scare campaign
                  Dietary Supplements and Mortality Rate in Older Women - Natural Medicine Journal: The Official Journal of the American Association of Naturopathic Physicians


                  For more background on the FDA's role in this:

                  FDA Threat: Vitamins, Supplements, & Alt Health Therapies as “Medicinal” | Health Freedom Alliance
                  Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

                  Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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                    On the part of the women, it's possible that the subjects did not realize that nutrition needs change. I can see how taking iron might work against them. Younger women frequently need to supplement iron in large doses due to menstruating. Older women don't have that problem and don't need all that iron.

                    I also see a possible flaw in the study. It makes sense that women who have undiagnosed health issues are not feeling well, and it makes sense that women who are not feeling well would take more supplements.
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                      I'm sorry, Ne. I was not criticizing you or even the study really. I was not siding with the supplements either. As I've said before, I have stomach issues and avoid supplements.

                      I have to adhere to a pretty strict diet to keep from being miserable. As time goes by, the list of things that I can safely eat gets shorter. It seems that the list has gotten much shorter in the last few months. Right now, I eat no grain of any kind, no seeds, no nuts, no sweet fruits (tomatoes and squash are okay), no sugar and no artificial sweeteners. I shy away from most things that come packaged because there is no telling what they have in them and how I will react. If we go out to eat, chances are that I won't feel well within a few hours no matter how careful I am in my selections.

                      I can eat meat. I use fresh vegetables but avoid corn, peas, most legumes, any kind of potato, and so on. I also avoid margarine, diet spreads, shortening and that sort of thing. For cooking, I use mostly butter but also olive oil and some canola oil. I can do some dairy but no milk, cottage cheese or that sort of thing. Mainly hard cheese is okay as long as it is high-quality and not pre-shredded. Fresh, soft mozzerella balls are good so far too. It is a pain and it requires a lot of fridge space and cash, but physically and emotionally I feel better eating like this. I would like to think that what's happening now is a fluke and that I can go back to eating more normally. Time will tell.

                      As you might imagine, most supplements also make my tummy very unhappy so I stopped messing with them. While trying kick the cigs, I tried nicotine lozenges and they had a very bad effect both physically and emotionally. They had a slightly sweet flavor so it may have been due to whatever they were sweetened with. Or it may have been the nicotine.

                      But I can still do alcohol! :upset: I have no problem with baclofen at a lower dose. I had no problem even at high doses but I'd be wary about trying that now. I can do simple multi vit. That's all I do for supplements. I'm not a sup person.
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                        Yeah, I'll deal with this kerfuffle later, too. I don't have time now.

                        If you all read the article "Hoax" I posted carefully, and do a little research yourself, you will understand the true nature of this study, and you will realize it does not hold water in any way. (OK, iron in the elderly has LONG been known to be dangerous to the elderly. Look at any multi-vitamin for elderly and it will say NO IRON on it to make sure it is clear, because everyone knows it can be toxic to older people-- this study has not found something new there.)

                        Anyway, I hope you all will continue to take your supps, be ever vigilant of the lengths big pharma will go to quash and stamp out all forms of natural and holistic healing -- and, as always, research your supp regime, constantly, keep updated, use as many natural supps as you can (i.e. real food, not chemicals), and adjust according to your changing needs.

                        Don't let this horrific hoax (and there have been many others before and there will be many more to come -- big pharma bucks will not stop until they get their way) accomplish what it set out to do: Scare people away from supplements and into the arms of the drug industries.

                        What else do they want? They want the FDA to take over control of natural supplements, vetting them and testing them to their own set standards (who knows what they will be?) and deciding which ones can go to market! Now, who do you think will benefit from that? What else is the FDA responsible for? Yep, you got it, drugs. And who has the FDA in their pocket?

                        THINK people THINK!

                        The international drug conglomerates see the billions they are losing to the natural foods elements and they want it all. If you buy into their macabre tactics, you will see your sources dry up and your health will really be completely out of your own hands. And in theirs, where they want it. And believe me, your health will not be the better for it.

                        Put on you thinking caps when you read abostudy ut a study like this, scrutinize it, question it, and take time to consider why it is being disseminated so widely by the mainstream media.

                        And consider this: Not one person has ever died from taking vitamins or supplements. I heard that from three independent sources. I don't know if it is true, but if they had, I'd think we would have heard about it from the drug lobby, every single time
                        it happened, wouldn't you?

                        Now, how many people die yearly from prescription drugs? I heard it is the 3rd highest cause of death in the U.S. now, and possibly the first if unreported and undiagnosed or complicated cases are taken into account. (I don't have sources for these statements, so please don't take them for fact. Google them. I don't have time.)

                        Thank you, I'll get off my soapbox now.

                        I'll come back later to point out more reasons why this particular study is terribly flawed (if I can muster the energy). sigh.
                        Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

                        Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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                          Hi beatle.

                          Thanks for the article, I found it right on target and it reminded me of America's John McCain trying to reduce the population's access to supplements/vitamins. That's one of the reasons Ron Paul is popular in this country, to the extent he is, with health oriented people and people who rely on supplements instead of drugs for health problems.

                          Keep posting this stuff. Thanks again. And thanks for the reminder to take my iron!

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                            The End of Illness - a book or an ad?

                            I wasn't sure where to post this but I just have to post this! Since its more about pharma, I chose beatle's thread, hope you don't mind.

                            I was disappointed to see John Stewart, someone I adore from afar, interview an author on his show who advocates statin and aspirin and other pharma to everyone and who blasts supplements/vitamins.

                            However, I'm wondering, knowing how sneaky he is, if he threw that comment out about "why don't we just mandate aspirin for everyone then?" as a nod to us that he's being made to interview this asshole. Because most of us know EVERYONE can't take aspirin safely.

                            Book: The End of Illness

                            Check out the reviews on Amazon. There's nothing new in this book that we don't already know and there's a conflict of interest on the part of the author who is part owner of several pharma companies according to the reviewers.

                            Disclaimer: I didn't read the book nor check the claims in the Amazon reviews so feel free to ignore this if you think that invalidates the post for you.

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