I am a mess-never done thid b4

[Runner]

I have never done this before, I am on topomax naltrraxon and effoxer,I REALLY need help, I didnt like AA,the cult thing, in my rural area everyone knows who I am and people I feel are judgemental......I love my wife and kids and long story short,I gotta get it together,
tooo many years of black outs/not knowing/fighting/drunk car crashes.....what does one do on the sites,? I love the book and vitimans,campral didnt do it for me.

Is there any one out there who is going thru the same? Work all day fine after the hanghover is gone to start all over again thru the same cycle?

Maybe thats wy I got here? I am not a wack job,well,,ask my wife cigmo

[Victory]

I am a mess-never done thid b4

Congratulations runner

Hi runner, :welcome:
yep been there done that and sadly still do it from time to time. This is a great site keep reading and keep posting. No magic wand but self realization comes slowly. You are in the right place. Congratulations on taking that first step.
:goodjob:

[Accountable for Me]

I am a mess-never done thid b4

:welcome: runner!

Glad you found us! I can relate to the drinking behaviour you described. I found this site in December of last year and it completely changed my life. With two minor slips, I have had almost a year of sobriety. Life is really good on the other side!

Keep reading and keep on posting. You & your wife will find tons of support here!

[flutterby]

I am a mess-never done thid b4

Runner,
You have come to a good place. We don't judge. We just work the program as best we can then share with others so we can learn from combined experience. You read like you have a good heart and you are really intent on getting your act together-- please keep posting and I wish you smooth sailing on this journey.

[cigmo]

I am a mess-never done thid b4

Nice beginning Runner!!! Glad to see you reaching out to other caring people who may be your biggest supporters!!!!! I have been reading here for quite a bit and the advice/support is an incredible resource~non- judgmental and no one knows you here (but me )

I believe this might be the way.

Cig

[Runner]

I am a mess-never done thid b4

WOW,THANKS FOR THE GREAT RESONONST!!!!!!i DONT KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ARE OUT THERE LOOKING AT THIS BUT I NEED SOME FRIGGIN FELP. MY THERIPIST WENT TO JACK TREMPY TREMY SOLILOQUY,AND i WENT HERE......i HAVE DRANK LESSS AFTER BEING ON THIS SIGHT.

[me145]

I am a mess-never done thid b4

Oh man, we all are.. you can read my last thread to see about that blackout i had..

[Teecia]

I am a mess-never done thid b4

Hey Runner

I just joined today, too. I'm 18 & my mom (PJ) showed me this site. I've been reading all day.

Here's what she posted about blackouts (talking about me), talking to someone else new...:
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You are posting here, and asking serious questions that soooo many of us have asked soooo many times. That's awesome! It's proof positive that you're concerned, scared, want to do better, etc... Who cares whether you "package" your questions in self-protective giggles or wallow in self-pity tears! The bottom line is the same: you want to understand so you can do better. Good job for stepping up!

I'm one of the "lucky ones" (or maybe not so lucky, depending on your point of view - since I remember tooooo many details of some really embarrassing alcohol-induced events). But I've been reading a lot, trying to understand why my 18 year old daughter blacks out nearly every time she drinks, and so did her father. (opinions about underage drinking not withstanding)

A few theories I've read include:

1) Hypoglycemic glucose crash - The liver prioritizes metabolism of various things, and once alcohol is introduced, glucose "production" in the liver completely stops until the various stages of alcohol processing is finished.

How I translate this one: If there's not enough glucose (the brain's primary "food" source) in the blood stream or body tissues or whatever, then the brain starts shutting down non-essential tasks as part of the [frankly remarkable] sequence of life preservation mechanisms, so that whatever brain-fuel requirements can be redirected to maintaining the basics (breathing, heartbeat, etc).

Something interesting: I've also read that the absolute WORST time to drink is within 4-6 hours after a heavy working out. Apparently, this has something to do with how the body uses glucose as energy for muscles during intense workouts ... therefore depleting what the brain needs to "survive" during alcohol consumption, that much faster.

2) Seretonin deficiency - (Tytrophane metabolizes to 5HTP which then metabolises to seretonin, melatonin, and contributes to the metabolization of a few other things...) Either insufficient amounts of this neurotransmitter in the brain (which is a major contributor to regulating moods, personality, memory perspectives, and sleep patterns), OR something-gone-haywire with the brain's ability to regulate how it gets used (usually either substance or stress induced).

How I translate this one: If alcohol make you piss out all the nutrients that create and regulate this hormone(?), then it makes since to me that if you're alcohol consumption or stress levels (or both) are too extreme for too long, your body can't keep up any more - so it needs either a SERIOUS break to recover, or some SERIOUS supplements to keep up.

3) Consumption speed and absorption - There's quite a bit of research on "lever shock" due to "guzzling" or "binge drinking" (depending on your preferred terminology). This theory suggests that the body goes into some sort of "shock mode", until it figures out what's going on and goes through a series of [again magnificent] reactions to determine how best to deal with the threat. Generally, this category is reserved for once-in-a-blue-moon excessive drinkers, but I assume everyone's different? In my readings/research, it seems somehow that this also relates to food consumption prior to and during (I don't understand how yet - something about stomach vs small intestine buffering and absorption).

How I translate this one: Don't go overboard with hard liquer, without making sure you've got enough "slow absorbtion" (protiens & complex carbs) foods in your stomach, to slow their transition to the small intestine (a rapid absorption organ). And do water in between each drink to dilute and further slow down alcohol metabolism effects.

4) Dehydration - There's a bunch of info on how dehydration affects the body - both short term and longterm. But memory problems rank among the top after effects.

How I translate this one: Alcohol interrupts some sort of "fluid retention" hormone(?), so during an alcohol "episode", fluid retention goes out the window to such an extreme that the body starts doing "crazy" stuff to protect basic survival. (I need to research this one further)

Hope this helps ...
I really DO care! (And I want answers that make sense)

Hugs!

[Suki411]

I am a mess-never done thid b4

Welcome Teecia and Runner. WOW. I have to say how impressed I am that you two have the support at home that you do. Good for you Cig and for PJ. The support here is amazing, but having Cig and PJ behind you, what a gift!

Hugs to you alll!:welcome:

[Mags]

I am a mess-never done thid b4

Welcome Runner

I believe if you do the program, work hard at it and have all this great support you will find your life will get oh so much better. Today is a good day for you. Your life is starting to get better! Welcome aboard.

[cuckoosnest83]

I am a mess-never done thid b4

Hi runner, I have been on this site for a little over 2 months and just celebrated 30 days without alcohol. First time I have done that in over 25 years so I think this site can definitely help you if you have the desire and are willing to put in the work to do it. Plenty of wonderful people here to offer you support and encouragement. Come here and post often and read. Good luck.

Cuckoo

[Miss October]

I am a mess-never done thid b4

:welcome: Runner & Teecia,

You have come to the right place. There is nothing like getting all the support you need with caring and very understanding people right in the comfort of your own home.....and no one needs to know.

Yes Runner, we are all a mess before we come here.....drinking everyday does that to a person. If you have not already, go out and get Roberta Jewels book, "My Way Out" or you can download it for a small fee. Very good read. Just keep reading and reading, and post when you have the need or just plain feel like it. No judgements here. See you around.

and Teecia, thank your Mom for bringing you to this site. You are so young, and have such a good chance to get your drinking under control. Read as much as you can....you want to get this under control NOW before you end up like most of us drinking away over 20 years of our lives....don't want to scare you, just trying to help.

PJ, thanks for the info on why we "blackout" when we drink. Something we all don't like.

So again, welcome to MWO

[trixietrack]

I am a mess-never done thid b4

I just want to say welcome welcome.
I was one mess last march. now I am well on my way to being a normal drinker. it takes patience and perseverance but if you read the book and keep coming back here it actually does work.
stick around and grow with us

Trix

[Runner]

I am a mess-never done thid b4

Thank you all for all the great support,I have been thinking about this site all day at work,it has kinda helped me with supressing my silent "Mr. Hyde" voice tonite...I do have a an engagment at the Pops in Boston I am worried about this weekend as Ive kinda white lied to some of the people im gonna be with about how good I have been (NOT) with my drinking

[Cinders]

I am a mess-never done thid b4

Runner,

I assume you are not talking about the "Boston Pops" but Pops in Boston? :H

Actually, not making fun. Been there done that. It is tough.

This weekend is way to soon to wean yourself off or go cold turkey unless you are not that heavy a drinker.

If you think you simply "can't" do it, don't go. Otherewise, figure out what it will take in a very MINIMAL way to get you through the weekend. Then do that. However, ABSOLUTELY DO NOT GET DRUNK. Okay??

Best of luck.

Cindi