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    I've found this site by accident and thought I'd enter it to see what people are saying and doing. It seems to me that everyone I've read about so far found themselves in need of releasing themselves from the grip of alcohol. I love my 3 glasses of wine a night and need to be convinced that it is harmful to enjoy them. I know that livers can be damaged by excessive drinking but all my medical check ups are really good and I'm in my mid 50's and female. If there's anyone else who enjoys wine and is unsure of the consequences over time, I'd love to communicate with them.

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    I know some people can drink a lot and never have liver problems and others are more prone to trouble and can get liver damage with smaller amounts. My three glasses of wine turned into a bottle and a half so just be careful with it.
    Patience has its limits. Take it too far, and it's cowardice.
    - George Jackson

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      #3
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      MM

      Just saw the MM tribute video. I wish some young girls could see it to realise what a truely beautiful fully grown woman can look like nude. None of these swizle sticks!
      Long Road
      Nobody can make you feel inferior without your permission--
      Eleanor Roosevelt

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        #4
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        The medical community recommends no more than one glass of wine per day for women, two for men.
        Mike

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          #5
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          Julie B,
          Despite my passion for wine which has increased from two glasses to two bottles over 40 years, my check ups and blood work do not reveal the abuse. Over the last couple of years, I can no longer hide behind good physical health because I cannot remember much of anything after 4 glasses. Am scaring myself to death. (instead of scarring my liver).

          Have been taking naltrexone along with therapy work for about a week now, tapering wine consumption to about 2 glasses throughout an evening. The passion still burns within, and I find myself quite irritable. Not the way I want to live

          Watch yourself and NEVER go over your current intake. Cut down if possible because it does creep up.

          Best wishes for a healthy body and mind, he

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            #6
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            At least you have the power to stop at three...

            Just remember, wine contains sulfites and too many sulfites can wreak havoc on your joints.

            I'm sure that is why I'm suffering so badly now with my achy hips. Too many sulfites in those canned vodka martinis.

            I am not drinking today or tomorrow or the next hoping the pain goes away. I don't plan to drink again until NYE anyway.

            It's good you can continue to moderate. I don't think three glasses of wine is bad but I'm a liquor girl, so I can't speak. Ask your doctor. They even say two glasses of red wine a day is GOOD FOR YOU!

            Yea, I went that route too as an "experiment". I was back on the vodka before I finished the second glass of wine.

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              #7
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              Julie,
              3 glasses of wine per night is way over what the medical community terms "moderate" drinking for women, which is one drink per day. So it has to have a negative effect on your body.
              3 is going to eventually lead to more, even if it doesnt, 3 each day is excessive in my view. I was drinking 3 or 4 every single day, and came to see it as a problem, which is why I came here.

              Good luck.
              AF since 7/5/2009

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                #8
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                Hi Julie,
                I am not here to convince anyone that is is OK or not OK to drink. Wine or anything else. I am here because I realized that for me, alcohol was becoming an issue in my life. I had kidded my self for many years, that I only had an occasional problem with alcohol, those times when I "drank too much", sometimes blacking out, often with a hang over. But, then again, I did not drink every day, my health seemed excellent, I never missed work etc etc. None the less, I finally came to the knowlege that alcohol was affecting my life in a negative way. So here I am!

                MWO is a program with a web site, for those people that have realized that they either want to stop drinking or moderate their drinking. MWO is not a site designed to discuss how much we Love drinking. I am not meaning to sound harsh, but, I also would not attend an AA meeting to speak of how much I love drinking and think that it is healthy!!

                Good Luck,
                KateH
                A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes~Cinderella

                AF 12/6/2007

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                  #9
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                  hi Julie and welcome.

                  for what it's worth my endocrinologist told me that shes had patients with a history of two drinks per day that came down with serious liver disease after a long time. the problem is that you often will see nothing on the enzyme blood test results until it's too late. scary stuff.
                  nosce te ipsum
                  (Know Thyself)

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                    #10
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                    Helpful to chat

                    Thank you to everyone who gave me a comment on my post. Last night I had one and a half glasses of wine, sharing half a bottle with my husband. I really think reading your comments helped me to realise that moderation is what ever level makes me feel as though I have control and can stop and feel satisfied. I don't want to give up drinking wine with my meals but knew I had to put a curb on a drinking behaviour that makes me feel like it is the wine taking over my life. I gave up smoking 26 years ago and don't want another cigarette. As I said, I don't want to give up drinking wine but know it must be me who controls it not the other way around.

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                      #11
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                      Good job!

                      I wish with a new post, I could say 1 1/2 glasses of wine did it for me.
                      I went AF last night, but tonight did not....
                      Keep posting and work hard, I will too

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                        #12
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                        hi julie. I've found myself asking the same questions as you many times. It appears that in the UK, 2 glasses a day, that is 2x125mls. is Ok. I think that this is less in the USA. I've also heard and read that no one actually knows which level of alcohol is safe. It seems that these figures are pulled out of the air. I also know a number of people who are drinking , and who have always been drinking way above the recommended amount, yet it is only those who are drinking all day, day in day out for years do I hear of dying, or suffering with alcohol problems. Someone once told me that the medial community err on the side of caution.

                        All this doesn't mean that I don't want to give up. I drink around the recommended level for women - 14 units, i.e. 14 small glasses of wine a week, sometimes more, but I feel that is has become too important in my life, and it needs to stop.
                        There are inspirational people on this site. keep on reading and posting.

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                          #13
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                          Tyler and Winefree,

                          Okay. 'fessing up here. (I have confessed before but will do it again.)

                          I drink (or did drink) that much in one day. Probably more...

                          I ended up drinking 1.5 to 2.5 bottles of wine a night. I blacked out EVERY NIGHT and could not exist without it.

                          Like the websites, doctors, AA, Moderation Management, Rational Recovery says, "alcoholism is a PROGRESSIVE disease. i.e. IT NEVER GETS BETTER, JUST WORSE"

                          Halting the progression before you are where I am would be a really good thing.... (freaking understatement of the year...)

                          I am not kidding, actually. You can be where I am in a heartbeat. It creeps up on you, NOPE, there is one day where a "switch" is pressed/toggled and suddenly you are in this bewildering/scary/horrible place.

                          If you are not in this place yet, do not let yourself get here. It hurts, big time.

                          No. I am not on the streets, I make lots of money and I am extremely intelligent. I say this only because you MUST understand that this "disease" or whatever you want to call it can get to anyone.

                          I make lots of money, I am one of the few in the world that can do what I do, however, this damn thing has almost beat me into the ground. Do not get here. It hurts, sucks, and makes life miserable.

                          Cindi
                          AF April 9, 2016

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                            db2fromala;246012 wrote: Like the websites, doctors, AA, Moderation Management, Rational Recovery says, "alcoholism is a PROGRESSIVE disease. i.e. IT NEVER GETS BETTER, JUST WORSE"
                            Now that's the damn truth! That's real talk right there, Cindi... I had no idea how real it was until it got its hooks in me.

                            At least I made it home from the dealership without freaking completely out. My head is spinning *cry*

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                              #15
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                              Hi all, I have to agree with Cindi, last july (2006) I was suddenly drinking at 6am in the morning, it is progressive but once it hits it hits you really hard ........

                              Stop before you get to that...........

                              KateH1, you were lucky that you realised your problem early, but I have to point out that this site is here for people to discuss whatever they like even if it inolves our love of wine ........ lets leave it to RJ to tell people what they can and cannot post .........

                              BB xx
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