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    #16
    Enjoyment of wine

    Hi Julie, I haven't read through all the posts yet. Whenever the amount you are drinking becomes a concern to you it doesn't really matter if you have 3 glasses or 3 bottles a night.

    You have come to the right place to figure that out and decide your course of action. I wish you the very best.
    "Keep your eyes and heart focused on the end goal at all times, and never settle for less."

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      #17
      Enjoyment of wine

      hi julie best and welcome. you seem to have control of your drinking. 3 glasses a night with a meal and good company is actually healthy. if you are in your 50's and have been doing this for a while and your consumption hasn't increased and you haven't had crazy mood swings blackouts and awful hangovers then I think you are moderating well.
      There is nothing wrong with enjoying wine with your husband at night, what you say about you being in charge is the right thought.

      good luck on moderating

      Trix
      You can't turn a pickle into a cucumber

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        #18
        Enjoyment of wine

        JB dear 3 glasses of wine are nothing to worry about. :welcome:


        Luv Ripple~
        SHirl.

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          #19
          Enjoyment of wine

          Hi Julie- if you are looking here then maybe you think you are drinking too much?

          Just a few things to think about...
          3 drinks is not the end of the world, but can you go 3 days with no drinks and be ok?
          Do you get anxious if you are in a situation in which you know there will be no alcohol for an extended period of time?

          Are you considering a bottle of wine to be 3 drinks?
          Do you sometimes have more than 3?

          Most of us are here because we have some kind of problem with alcohol. And there are lots of us here. I guess what I'm saying is that you just need to be honest with yourself first and then decide what you want to do - ie - cut down on drinking and or stop drinking.

          I wish you all the best -
          Lisa

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            #20
            Enjoyment of wine

            I really love the honesty of talking about love of wine. I LOVE my dark beer!!! I never drank much before, but I started about 3 years ago, and was up to 2-3 a night, even 4!!! on a bad night. I am thin, but now have a tummy, that I hate. I am almost forty, and a mom, so maybe it's aging. I am of southern European descent, so I don't have the alcoholic genes, I think. Still. It's such a lovely way to spend an evening, after all the stress of the day. It almost feels religious, spiritual. (OK, I've just had a beer) But I nver not drink at night now. I am having breast reduction surgery ( a lifelong dream) in a few weeks. And I want to be really healthy for it. It's just like, what do I do at night if not sip a beer?

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              #21
              Enjoyment of wine

              Julie Best -

              I am in your boat - I also enjoy wine - very good wines. I came here because I wondered about my 'enjoyment' which became "Everyday Wine".

              I think the question posed earlier (Can you go 3 days with no wine?) is an interesting one. One you might want to consider. I did and then decided to see what it would be like to go without wine for one week. WOW - it opened up a few things - introspection, realizations, which led to 43 days without wine. I don't think I had gone that long since being pregnant 13 years ago!

              My struggle is similar to many - can I still enjoy some wine and manage it safely? I am hoping to find a way to do that, but am learning that the old habit of everyday will always want to return. I am looking forward to another AF stint in the New Year because I have learned I have to stay on top of it.

              My mother died from her daily habit, and I do not think she drank when she woke up, or before 4 Pm, but that doesn't matter - her consumption was enough that it destroyed her body and it got away from her so fast she could no longer do anything about it - no one wants to let that happen, so I say its good to examine 'habit' early on.

              Take good care,

              Go2Goal
              "Go Placidly Amid the Noise and Haste"

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                #22
                Enjoyment of wine

                Hi Julie, and welcome to MWO :welcome:

                You did not find this site by accident, it found you. When you drink every night, you wonder if it is good for you or not. So like all of us, we do a google search on our drinking habits, and here we are. MWO, it's a great place to be. But in answer to your question, here is my take on it.

                In my early 30's I wondered what my habitual nightly drinking of wine would do to me. So I researched through books and magazines (computers really were not around at that time :H 0 But we always knew, it was not good that after 20 to 30 years of habitual drinking, it would do us any good.....but of course, that is sooooooo far away.....who would ever think that we would turn 40 or 50 :yuk:

                If you go back and check on my first thread "I Love My Wine" dated November 27, 2007, read the replys to it. There are so many of us who love our wine. It's just that we cannot stop after one or two.

                But anyway in answer to your question, it all depends how much alcohol will effect you...it's what you inherited, your consumption, years of drinking, your size, do you have blackouts, can you always stop at three, do you think about drinking all the time ? I have had my liver checked, and they said it was fine. So in my head I say "are you sure, you better check it again). So your liver can take a good pounding over the years, but it is your other organs that you don't even think about that also can get damaged.

                Alcoholism is a progressive disease from excessive and habital drinking of alcohol (which is mainly inherited) It leads to chronic disorders of the central nervous and digestive sytems.

                I for one started with 3 glasses of wine, and progressed to 4 to 6 over 20 years. I now have intestinal problems all the time and worry about cancer or my intestines rupturing. I drink plenty of water after I drink at night, so that I don't get headaches, but my digestive system is sure in big trouble.

                I don't mean to scare you, but you HAVE COME TO THE RIGHT PLACE
                . Keep reading everything you can on this site. There are so many people who have so much insite and are very inspirational. We are all here for one thing only. And that is to stop drinking altogether (which scares most of us) or to moderate our drinking. It's your choice. We are all here to support you in whatever you choose to do.


                For most of us it is ODAT (One Day at a Time) which there is also a daily thread on "Just Starting Out". Hope you join us. AND HAPPY NEW YEAR....TO YOU !!
                Miss October :blinkylove:

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                  #23
                  Enjoyment of wine

                  I really appreciate the energy coming through your replies. Over the New year celebrations, which I tried hard to moderate, I've started chatting publicly with close friends, all of whom are wine drinkers. None of them seem to think they drink to excess (although I've quietly observed differently). None of them, however, confess to drinking nearly every day. I am disciplined most weeks to have one AF night but must plan consciously for it. I'm 54 and have reduced my intake over the last 12 months. I had 6 months of no drinking when I was pregnant at 35 and our daughter is a non-drinker and a high performer. I'm feeling very supported by the conversations and the honesty. Thank you and a Happy New Year. Last night I had a bottle of red wine with my husband but made sure I filled his glass more than I filled mine. We then played Texas hold 'em poker with our daughter and boyfriend and I drank milo while watching the fireworks on TV at midnight. The first year ever in 30 to do this and I attribute the change of behaviour to your comments and my willingness to listen.

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                    #24
                    Enjoyment of wine

                    Love of wine

                    Am a newbie - and just flicking through the threads - I really identify with this one
                    I have always drank a lot - I started working in a pub at the age of 17 where I was surrounded by people drinking - a habit I adopted readily
                    This habit carried on - in an up and down way - through my marriage - and although I have an incredibly supportive husband - in my black moods consider him to be patronising of me - I can control this - why would I need someone to help me - WRONG!
                    If I hide bottles and he finds them - he is crowding me, if he makes a comment - he is judging me - and so on - the poor guy can do no right - and still he sticks by me
                    I drink most nights - I can go without, but if I open a bottle of wine- cannot leave it - I have to have the lot- even the first sip may not go down so well, but I carry on regardless
                    A couple of years ago, I was taken to hospital with severe intestinal pains, and was found to have pancreatitis - classic sign of alcohol misuse - I denied drinking as much as I do - and was told that it was caused by gallstones - great get-out clause - I had my gall bladder removed - but within six months had another attack of pancreatitis - how do I explain that one? Alcohol of course - but has it stopped me - not on your life - am still back to drinking most days - at least a bottle of wine
                    I suppose my question is - how much or what will it take for me to give up
                    It really is frightening

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                      #25
                      Enjoyment of wine

                      Welcome Julie!

                      I too think we need to have a freedom to be honest here. Sometimes when we are new, and even after we have been here a while, we need to let our hair down and be real. I agree with BB... unless someone is being offensive or rude, I think they should have the freedom to share their thoughts and struggles no matter how similar or different they are from ours. I once had to go to a few grief meetings after my niece drowned. Part of getting through that time was talking about how much I loved her. We all have/ had a love affair on some level with wine or whatever we have drank or drink, and that should be allowed to be acknowledged, in my humble opinion. Sometimes acknowledging the love we have for it is the first step in letting go of it, and to see that we are not abnormal. I have seen these posts over the time of being here, and think they can be the most healing.

                      P4T
                      If you do not live the life you believe, you will believe the life you live.

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