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    It's morning...

    so I want to stop.

    Hi, I'm new. How to begin?

    Am in UK! Explains confusing time of post!!!

    #2
    It's morning...

    Hi Waves,

    You can start by clicking on "My Story" just above, and reading. Read, read and read. Then you can decide whether you want to join the rest of us here. We're all in the same boat, irrespective of where we're living. What we share is a desire to get off the grog - or at least cut down drastically.

    Welcome.

    Tawny

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      #3
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      Hi Waves - just to let you know I'm in UK also, so if you want support when others are in bed (due to time zone) I'm here.

      I am brand spanking new also. Have just received the book from Amazon and have read it from cover to cover this afternoon. I'm amazed and so excited at discovering this site, I'm sure it can help us both.

      I spent literally all day reading on the site yesterday and biting my nails and putting off making an appointment to see GP re: my secret problem and getting the medication needed -I do feel so ashamed at the thought of sat in the surgury announcing my problem - I'm sure he won't be surprised as I've had two blood test in the past 6 months and both came up with abnormally high enzymes (whatever they are!) on liver function test and I've been worrying about it ever since - will probably feel good to actually come clean about it, and address this awful demon I have and actually admit I need help. It's felt like a weight lifted off my shoulders just finding this programme and network of support (everyone seems so understanding and truly can empathise with how we're thinking, feeling etc). I sure seeing the doc won't be half as bad as some of the feelings of shame and dread I experience after a hard night on the booze.

      Anyhow waves, you get reading like me and we'll start this journey together if you wish. Hopefully it will help if we're in the same time zone if nothing else - I'll be thinking of you.

      Take care & have a good Saturday.

      Moll x

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        #4
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        Moll and Waves;

        Welcome to the family! Neither of you are alone in your fight, this is a very supportive group..

        Brandy:h

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          #5
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          thank you x so happy/grateful to be here

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            #6
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            Thank you Moll, How did you get the book? Did you download it or order it from a book shop? I went to WH Smith yesterday and to another bookshop. I couldn't see it and chickened out of ordering it. However, did well last night .Only 2 glasses and went to bed early to avoid further tempatation. Can't exactly go to bed at 8 oclock every night though!!:lol Yes a bit of support from two starting at once could be good for both.
            Thanks all for the welcome.

            Waves 2

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              #7
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              Hi
              I am from the UK also and have just started. I got the book from
              www.amazon.co.uk

              I also have got great support from my doctor, he was fantasic about it all and not judgmental. I have an app. with the local drug and alcohol clinic tomorrow (groan) but as soon as I have seen them my doc says he will give me campral. I have already started taking it as I ordered it off the net, but I cannot afford to pay ?70 every 2 weeks so I needed to get a prescription. It was really hard talking to my doctor but well worth it in the end.

              Claire

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                #8
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                Hi,
                Feel such a coward not even asking in a bookshop! Anyway thanks Clairelou for the address. I have ordered the book now. Mollruss I am a bit behind you in this, I hope that doesn't matter. Have you plucked up courage to tell the doctor? Mine feels almost like a family friend. Going to be very hard. Clairelou did it though.
                Waves 2

                Ps You were posting at the same time as me! I'm sorry the trip to the doc's didn't go better.

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                  #9
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                  Hi Waves, Good girl for ordering the book - read it from cover to cover.

                  I have just returned from docs now and feel so discouraged. I went armed with realms of information (the lancet printout, book and other printouts etc), and after initially admitting I had a problem he told me 'well done' for acknowledging I have a problem but not to take any notice of what is on the internet and have I not thought of attending a local AA meeting, which would just be totally out of the question for me. However, I did tell him that I wish to pursue the MWO programme and I don't just feel, I KNOW this can work for me and he replied that he couldn't prescribe that medication if he wanted to (no explanation of why) but he would have to refer me to Drug & Alcohol Team (much to my horror as I work alongside some of these councellors in my line of work!) if I want this prescription. I have accepted that I will see someone though (even if I know them) as being on other medication I would like to be supervised whilst taking the medications and having ordered the supps, cd's - want to try the programme as a whole (don't want to do without the meds). It seems like it must be procedure to see Drug and Alcohol Team before being prescribed eh. Good girl for seeing your Doctor, it isn't easy is it! I felt so ashamed but so relieved I suppose also, when I came out.

                  Didn't have a drink last night but was tempted - slept terrible, anxious about seeing doc today I suppose. Could murder a glass or 3 of wine now though, boy could I!

                  We can do this, I know x best wishes Luv Moll xx

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                    #10
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                    hi Moll,
                    I only had half a bottle last night which is good for me but not as good as Saturday night. I think you are really brave going to someone about meds. Much braver than me so far. Try not to be too discouraged by what your doctor says. Really he should be more supportive of your taking some action.
                    Have you ever had pain under your right rib when your liver levels have been
                    caused by the amount of acid in white wine. Swapped from red because of a racing heart.
                    Waves 2

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                      #11
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                      Hi Waves, not brave just desperate! I'll keep you posted on that one and if I actually end up with Topamax, gunna push for it though, I've ordered cd's, supps and really want to combine the 3 together, also with excercise - I have to do this cause I'm just getting worse and worse.

                      I haven't had a specific pain in my right rib as such, but generally feel run down and lethargic most days with aches and pains - especially in my legs for some reason. I get very bloated after drinking and my eyes are sore also. I love the day ahead if I've not drank and feel so good about myself, it's just when the night time comes round, it brings with it the craving and strong urge to drink. Have given in tonight again, wasn't going to but figured I'd been so good going to docs and putting in a had days work - there it goes again eh, the craving is far to easy to cave in to - I DO need help!

                      You stick in there bud, we're all going from the same and thinking of you - here for you any time I can be.

                      Luv Moll xxxx

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                        #12
                        It's morning...

                        wine

                        Reading your posts has me feeling, dont know cant describe it. I have had the pain under my right rib, I have had pain in my legs, and i have had pain in my kidney region. I have also had a soreness in right shoulder blade, or lower neck region. Yes if I drink, i swell up, and my eyes get puffy and hurt, but thats the day after. I thought, its the alcohol, but now I know its the white wine, thanks to you guys. I am in Switzerland, and I found this place yesterday. I am so sorry that you seen to have a problem getting the topa. I am having my fiance bring it from the states. After that I ll have to go to a doctor too. That would be really tough here because I live in a small town, and I m not sure that people wouldnt talk alot. News travels fast around here. I had thought that I might be able to get it as I am also bipolar, and I havent been here long, so when I ask the doctor about it, he may think I already have the script. If word does get out why I am taking it, alcohol, I could end up being pulled over more by the police. That would be horrible, as they would take me directly to the drs for blood test, and that seems bothersome to me. The police routinely pull over cars of known alcoholics here. I dont ever drink and drive, and i only really drink at home, so I dont think anyone knows. I buy my wine at different stores always, and hoep it doesnt get out, especially when I have now curbed my drinking. Here if you buy wine it is sold in boxes of six bottles, usually to be stored in your basement for dinner parties etc. Currently I am curbing my intake, and waiting for the materials. I think they should be here in aboout a week, and topa will be here in 4 days. along with the supplements. I still have lots of wine around, so I have to be really careful!! I dont care much for other types of alcohol, so my well stocked cabinet is not a problem. I was really good, though not as good as you two, last night. I had 3/4 of the bottle and I feel great, really an accomplishment for me. Normally I would have around two bottles. Guess thats not too bad for my first day. Well,

                        Maybe we can support each other through this!!

                        I really think this will work!!!

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                          #13
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                          Re: wine

                          Hi Beverley4444 you too are ahead of me. I agree it is hard to think that news will get around. Doctors cannot breach confidentiality but chemists who give you the prescription well...who knows?

                          Mollruss, try not to worry too much. It is still early days for us and having read your posts yesterday about gardening etc and wanting a glass or 3 I knew that if i had gone through what you did yesterday then I would have been exactly the same. Even when I am not stressed, just tired like today, it is so easy to say that it is just for tonight and find excuses. You are not alone in this. Thinking of you.xxxx
                          Waves 2

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                            #14
                            It's morning...

                            Not a good night. Not a good morning.

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                              #15
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                              Hi Chaps !!

                              I'm from Uk too and this is my first day on this website and first day not drinking. . It's really encouraging to find out that other people describe exactly the same fears and symptoms that I have.
                              I have tried to stop 5 times before, and each time got worse when i went cold turkey. Cutting down doesn't work for me - If it's there - I'll drink it !!
                              I was up to 3 - 4 bottles of white wine a day - sometimes would even open a 5th - AAAAhhh . I felt like dying every morning - up until about 3pm when my levels were topped up. . It was just getting worse and worse. I was hospitalised a couple of months ago when I tried to go it alone again with hallucinations and went a bit psycho the last time i tried it with no meds and my doctor said that after giving me librium to curb the withdrwals on the last attempt he wouldn't do it again. But that's my fear - the withdrawals - which were getting worse each time I tried. I begged yesterday with a different doctor on the promise that I would attend the drug unit - and have made an appointment on friday.
                              Today hasn't been too bad - first day and it's 6.30 - no throwing up and no shakes. This website has kept me occupied and quite frankly - it's ACE
                              I am interested in this campriam ( is that right)? and topa that people talk about. Does it stop craving? I have ordered the cds and the book and the Kudzu for now. and when I've finished the Librium do you reckon it would be a good idea to ask GP bout that?
                              I'm glad there are other people in the UK that I can chat to.

                              Hope to speak to you soon
                              Bambino :h

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