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    Newbie Here.........

    Hello All from the UK!!


    Im so glad Ive found you all, Ive spent most of the day today reading through the forums and Ive got to say that there are so many successful stories on here, from people who sound exactly like me getting to the point where I want to be.

    I am wanting to rid myself of my body's / brains need to drink, I don?t necessarily want to stop drinking entirely, just to cut out that feeling which comes along from 6pm each day til bedtime, where I either tootle off to the Off Licence or pub, or both, for no reason other than to serve the needs of my condition. I find I drinking in times like these on my own as "non acceptable" and its these I wish to kick out.

    I would love to do this whilst still being able to meet up with friends for a few beers over the weekend or having a few when off to the Football with mates too without feeling guilty. I find times such as these "acceptable drinking behaviours".

    I?m not sure however, if these are just excuses I?ve made up for my own end so as I don?t have to totally quit. Any thoughts??

    I have previously given up on a day to day basis after endless nagging from the other half to. She cares and can see that I am dependant to some extreme to drinking.

    For the reason that I have done it on a limited scale previously suggests that I could, with a little help make this a more permanent thing.

    On a slight tangent, I successfully gave up smoking a year ago just on determination, well, again I said gave up, but over the entire year have probably had in total about a 20 deck. Having accepted the odd 1 whilst watchin my beloved Sheffield Wednesday Football Club play. This I feel is further proof that I could curb drinking also.

    I feel that the main battle is to stop my body expecting at a particular time of day getting Beers, I?ve experienced before during the last World Cup (Football) 4 years ago that for every day for 4 week period a few pals from work toddled off to the pub every day without fail for a 2 hour lunch to catch the 12noon game ? obviously in that time probably sinking 3-4 pints. After this period, my body at that time each day for a further month, I got the craving for beers again (lasted about a month). This wasn?t too too difficult to overcome as I could throw myself in my work, eat plenty of lunch and because the craving only lasted 2ish hours, wasn?t too bad to suppress.

    I also am sick of waking up for work, groggy, headachy and still stinkin of booze. I have recently gained promotion at work and am now in a management role. I take my job seriously and am aware that I do not want to let my staff down with any need they have.

    What exactly would people recommend to me?? I have read many threads re Topamax, Kudzu, L-Glut etc. Could you recommend which I should try?? And when / How often would I take these?? And where would I get such medication from??

    For info, my condition usually take roughly 6 - 8 points of regular 4% lager per evening to appease.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.


    Cheers All!!

    #2
    Newbie Here.........

    I am new here as well and I am interested in hearing what people recommend to you. I don't drink everyday, or feel the need to drink everyday, but when I do drink, it is not a beer or two, but more like 12+. I would like to get to the point where I feel like I can drink a beer and leave it at that, instead of having one beer after another. I bought the book online and read it last Sunday, and I have ordered some sups, as I couldn't find them in any stores around here. I don't think I am going to go the topa route and I am undecided on the CDs. Any suggestions would be great. Thanks

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      #3
      Newbie Here.........

      Hello and welcome to you both
      Batigol - I would suggest first and foremost that you download the book from this site - you can download it instantly PDF and read it right away. It gives you the full explation on the program. You should try the supps - kudzu and l-glut are most key in my experience, but also the amino acid therapy/Allone to start balancing our brains again! I suggest you also read read read as much as possible on these boards. You will see tons of people who have overcome this and are working to support each other each day.
      We are here for you! Welcome to the family
      Cheers
      Jen

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        #4
        Newbie Here.........

        Thanks greatly for the responses from you both,

        I did atempt to download the PDF file, alas was unsuccesful due to my archaic pc crashing whilst it was downloading.

        So where do I get these medications from then and when would you recommend I took them??

        Cheers.

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          #5
          Newbie Here.........

          Hi again
          You probably need a prescription for the topamax or campral (whichever you choose) OR you might be able to just order them online (not sure how it works in the UK, but I THINK I recall others saying they needed a script). As for the supplements, you can order them right from this site (under "Health Store" - vitamins and supps) or there are other sites out there too if you do a general search under the supp names. As for whether you should take the topa/campral or not, this is completely up to you. It's best to have medical supervision probably - and lots of people here have had great success with these drugs. I have not tried them yet but aim to get topa ASAP.
          Hope this helps. Keep posting
          Cheers
          Jen

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            #6
            Newbie Here.........

            hi bat

            from uk as well ,:d id well on the programme earlier in the year, BIG drink prob for 25 years ,stiil fighting but drinking in moderation,if you can call 1/4 bot vodka and 2 beers moderation :c , the best thing about this community is the support any understanding that it gives you:happy , good luck ,watch this space , it REALLY helps

            Whitestar

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              #7
              Newbie Here.........

              Hi all, I think it's critical to get on your nutritional program and go on a low to no sugar diet with complex carbs and lots of protein and green veggies (fresh) that will help stabilize your blood sugar and your brain neurotransmitters to cut the cravings. You can definitely do the all one and amino's as a base however, I've customized to suit my particular chemistry. l-glutamine under the tongue helps with cravings immediately, the additional GABA helps calm at night, as does the melantonin. B-vitamins and vitamin C are vital to restore your nervous system so that your body can properly use the extra amino nutrients and shuttle them to where your body needs them.


              The excerpt begins below with the full links to all five parts following this...


              Toxins and free radicals, produced during the breakdown of alcohol, kill cells in every organ of the body. A free radical is any molecule that is missing an electron. Wherever a free radical goes, it steals an electron from healthy tissue, slowly eating away at normal body chemistry. Organs that suffer the most initial cell damage are the brain, liver, pancreas, adrenals, stomach and GI tract. Alcohol irritates the lining of the gastrointestinal tract, eventually leading to leaky-gut syndrome.

              The liver is one of the main targets of alcohol and acetaldehyde toxicity, depleting the liver of glutathione (GSH). GSH is our body's number one detoxifier, one of our five essential anti-oxidants, and is critical to energy chemistry. A body depleted of GSH cannot defend itself against the constant onslaught of free radicals and toxins. While this article cannot elaborate on how to repair every metabolic pathway and every damaged organ, suffice it to say that GSH can be restored to healthy levels through nutritional supplementation, especially with the amino acid, N-acetyl cysteine.

              Neurotransmitters

              The most significant metabolic problems caused by alcoholism may be: 1) depleted neurotransmitters, 2) impaired sugar metabolism (with resulting hypoglycemia), 3) a damaged gastrointestinal tract, and 4) damaged detoxification function. Various sources cite serotonin and endorphins as the key neurotransmitters that are depleted by alcohol abuse. That is not the case. Let's take a quick look at the major neurotransmitters that are depleted in alcoholism:

              Dopamine, the feel-good neurotransmitter. The amino acid L-Tyrosine makes dopamine.

              Serotonin is a feel-good, mood enhancing, and sleep-promoting neurotransmitter. L-Tryptophan and 5-HTP (5-hydroxy-tryptophan) are the amino acids that make serotonin.

              Norepinephrine deficiency leads to a huge array of cognitive problems, including poor memory and concentration, anger, outbursts, fatigue, depression, emotional instability, tremors, and insomnia. L-Tyrosine is the amino acid that makes norepinephrine.

              Endorphins are our body's powerful, self-manufactured painkillers. Alcohol causes a temporary increase in serotonin and endorphin levels, which is why alcohol makes so many people feel good. But, over time, serotonin and endorphin receptor sites are strained to the max. Acetaldehyde binds with endorphins, shutting down the body's own production of endorphins and serotonin. This toxic process diminishes the brain's ability to produce its own feel-good neurotransmitters, serotonin and endorphins, which then produces depression and other mental disorders. The brain is producing less and less of these neurotransmitters, so the individual drinks more and more in order to create more serotonin and endorphins to fill their ?up-regulated? receptor sites.

              Acetylcholine deficiency impairs memory, general nerve health, and neurotransmitter transmission. Acetylcholine also carries impulses from neurons to muscle cells, where it generates muscle contractions. Impaired acetylcholine chemistry leads to muscle problems, weakness, and muscle atrophy.

              Researchers at Scripps Institute and articles in the journal, Science , point to the neurotransmitter GABA (gamma amino butyric acid) as one of the keys to understanding the alcoholic brain?. if not THE key. GABA is an inhibiting neurotransmitter that makes us feel relaxed. The GABA receptor site is where minor tranquilizers like Xanax and Valium work. In the short-term, alcohol increases GABA transmission in the amygdala, which is a major pleasure center, but it is also involved in fear. When a person overdrinks, GABA becomes depleted. Alcohol is believed to mimic the effects of GABA, binding to GABA receptor sites. The GABA-starved brain craves anything to regain balance. We feel miserable when GABA is depleted. And so the alcoholic drinks more and more, partly to compensate for the loss of GABA.

              Unlike norepinephrine and serotonin that can be boosted relatively easily by supplementation with their respective nutritional precursors, namely L-Tyrosine and L-Tryptophan, increasing brain GABA levels is difficult. You will be able to find GABA in any health food store, but there is a big problem. Very little GABA crosses the blood-brain barrier and gets into your brain. Some GABA is made from the amino acid L-Glutamine and some is a product of sugar metabolism. Because alcohol acts like sugar, one of its functions is to create more GABA temporarily.

              One cannot ingest huge enough amounts of L-Glutamine to raise GABA levels. Eighty percent of the L-Glutamine we ingest is taken up and used by the GI tract. The 20% that is absorbed is used by muscle, the immune system, and the brain. In the brain, L-Glutamine turns into the inhibitory neurotransmitter, GABA, as well as the excitatory neurotransmitter, Glutamate. We don't want a large excess of glutamate.

              Now here is the good news in this sad story. Meditation will increase GABA and will balance the stress hormones that contribute to neurotransmitter chaos and depletion. Secondly, while very little ingested GABA makes it into the brain, it does make it into the blood. Every cell in our body is covered with GABA receptor sites, and those cells outside the brain will be in a healthier state when circulating GABA levels are increased.

              But?some orally ingested GABA does make it into the brain, although this varies from person to person. For a minority of people, GABA will produce some relaxation. But don't think that, ?more is better.? While 2,000 to 4,000 mg a day may help some of you to relax, doses from 6,000 to 8,000 mg will produce severe anxiety and panic.



              I'm putting a link here to a series of excellent articles to help clarify the physical interaction by Dr. Gerston.


              www.lightconnectiononline...colums.htm
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              www.lightconnectiononline...colums.htm

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