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    goes like this:

    I want a drink!
    No, you don't.
    Just ONE.
    NO.
    I can control it!
    Hahahaha.
    I know it would make me feel better!
    OK - maybe for about 15 min.
    But I Deserve it!
    Why...???
    Ok, now that's just Mean - so now I Really need a drink to feel better!!!
    You'll use Any excuse, won't you?
    What's so damn good about being sober anyway?
    So now I have to write a book??
    Go stuff yourself!
    No, YOU go stuff yourself.
    Sure wish I could have a drink...
    IDIOT, Coward!
    There you go again, ya Meanie!
    Ok, maybe you're not worth it after all. Go ahead, have a drink for whatever lame excuse you dream up. Just don't whine when you feel bad about yourself, etc.

    OK, so now you guys know I'm schizophrenic! What of it?? LOL.
    Sometimes you have to take the leap and build your wings on the way down... Anais Nin

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    Yep, we can all relate to that! And if we allow ourselves to engage in that conversation too much, we are likely to drink.

    Two things that can be helpful, when this is happening: First, we can just dis-engage, and distract our craving mind/brain. Do something that will take our attention away from the internal dialogue.

    Second, we can practice cultivating and identifying with an inner voice that is wise and compassionate. Unlike the voice above, the one that uses abusive language, we can deliberately use a calm and soothing inner "tone of voice," just like we would with a child who wants something she cannot have. If you can imagine a wonderful and wise mentor and friend, you can use that model to create an inner "wise mind" that can be very helpful when the voice of addiction (the "beast"!) speaks up and throws a fit.

    wip

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      #3
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      LOVE that advice, WIP!!

      I think my inner voice IS abusive. (Not just about AL...) I think if I consciously "make" that inner voice more gentle, I will have much better results in a lot of areas of my life.

      I'm very hard on myself, in general. I NEED that soothing, wise mind to move me along in life.

      THANK YOU for that.
      Sometimes you have to take the leap and build your wings on the way down... Anais Nin

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        #4
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        WIP ---- thanks for sharing that strategy. I too will try and cultivate that wise, calm inner voice to deal the the AL Beast. Posts like this are what I find most helpful here. Good solid strategy suggestions. Thanks again WIP!

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          Good info WIP. It's important to remember that our disease is always lying there and waiting for an opportunity - an opening to exploit. Unless we have a prepared plan for dealing with those situations they can often prove overwhelming.
          Sobriety Date: June 15, 2007 -- "It's not having what you want, It's wanting what you've got...."

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            #6
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            Y,know, I posted that really for some humor (intermixed with Truth!)... And, it turns out - thanks to WIP - it helped a few of us (more, soon, I'm sure) in a very practical way!!

            Sometimes you just never know where things may lead...
            Sometimes you have to take the leap and build your wings on the way down... Anais Nin

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              Here is my inner voice: Oh, go ahead have a few. You deserve it!! I deserve What? I deserve to feel like shit for days after I drink. No, I do not deserve that.
              "Decide-Which Voice in Your Head you Can Keep Alive" (Shinedown)

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                Savon, Thanks for the post. I was battling that inner voice last night and gave in. Had more that I planned to but not as bad as in the past. I really needed to be reminded this morning. Thanks

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                  Savon,Try this.Write down the negative thought on paper then RIP it up and trow it in the BIN.Take the positive thought and write it down in a note book,to keep.I am gonna start doing that.HOW PERFECT !!! A COMPOST BIN TO RECYCLE MY GARBAGE THOUGHTS...A I am left with something VERY USEFUL..Thanks for sharing..
                  sigpicEyes on the PRIZE, a SOBER Future !!!

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                    #10
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                    wow... I have that conversation every day...
                    And it's 50/50 who "wins".
                    ?I am playing all the right notes... But not necessarily in the right order.....?

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                      #11
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                      my inner voice is also very abusive, I wish it would simply cease to exist
                      Striving to live life without ALCOHOL

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                        keeta;419431 wrote: my inner voice is also very abusive, I wish it would simply cease to exist
                        ahh, Keeta, it will never (completely) cease to exist; but it becomes so much less powerful when we stop being afraid of it, or trying to force it to go away. I know that some people find it very helpful to engage in an inner battle with what they call The Beast, and I understand that approach, too. But in the long run, for many of us, I think a different type of voice can be most effective.

                        Accepting the fact that there is a part/aspect of us that wants and craves alcohol, is important. And accepting that this part of us is really very immature and even child-like is important, too. The alcohol-craving, impulsive, and habit-driven parts of ourselves arise out of the parts of our brain that we share with other animals/mammals, those that do not have the benefit of the well-developed frontal lobes that human beings can benefit from. Because of the amazing configurations of our brains, we can actually reason with ourselves, and soothe ourselves, and distract ourselves, and make decisions in our own best interests, despite the existence of old self-destructive habits. And the more we do that, the better we get at it! That's the good news!

                        wip

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                          #13
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                          Well put

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                            #14
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                            iHI
                            IM NEW AND REALLY DON'T KNOW WHERE TO JUMP IN

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                              IGATAP29@HOTMAIL.COM;419488 wrote: iHI
                              IM NEW AND REALLY DON'T KNOW WHERE TO JUMP IN
                              HI!
                              Feel free to jump in anywhere.. whether you're trying to be AF or trying to Mod.. you're welcome here
                              Lotsa Love
                              C
                              ?I am playing all the right notes... But not necessarily in the right order.....?

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