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    Greetings!
    I am new here and would like to share and ask some questions.
    I have abused alcohol for +- 35 years. Some years ago I managed to go AF for 3 months but a weak moment and an overzealous friend at another friend's wdeeing put paid to that.
    About three years ago I went through a tough time at work and became very depressed. I come from a family (Dad also abuused Al) who believe that all help comes from within and that an inability to deal with problems is a sign of weakness - my wife seems to believe this as well. For a long time I have been wanting to get control of this "silver tongued devil" but the resolve has eluded me. A lot of you seem to use wine but I was using everything which was always available - mostly hard drink which I would drink neat - we keep a very extensive "bar" at home because of the entertaining we do. Most nights I would consume at least half a bottle of hard liquor with possiblly a few glasses of wine thrown in. I started to believe that I was possessed by a spiritual demon whose goal was to destroy me.
    My resolve would hold, virtually daily, until just before going home in the evening when the need / desire for a drink would kick in and would rush home and have a couple of jolts just to get sarted - same old story- couldn't stop until I passed out / fell asleep - cycle repeats itself. I am exteemely lucky not to have been involved in motor accidents or been caught by the Police as I have often driven drunk! A week ago we had a social for our Bible Study group at home and I did my usual thing and fell asleep and don't remember much after about an hour into the evening. The next day in my usual daily resolve to change things I stumbled on this site and believe I had an "epiphany" in that it had never occurred to me that I was not addicted to alcohol per se but to the effect it had on me. This caused a major mindset change and I have managed to go AF for exactly 7 days now. This is despite 1. running the bar at a fund raiser for a local old age home and 2. having guests for lunch on Sunday where, between 3 1/2 people 5 1/2 bottles of a really nice Shiraz were drunk (I was not one of the drinkers). I know that 7 days is no big deal but for me it is a start. This may have been helped by the fact that I have at last resumed doing some excercise (cycling) and that my wife (a retired nurse) gave me a vitamin B jab. The first few nights I slept badly ( no drug to make me pass out). I could get to sleep but staying asleep was impossible. For the last 3 nights I have slept better but seem to be always tired - I slept for an hour at lunch time yesterday. Is this tiredness a normal symptom and if so will it go away? Surprisingly I have not craved alcohol but find the hours between work and bed to be very brittle without the usual crutch / relaxant to waste the time.
    In an ideal world I would like to become a "social" drinker and drink a reasonable amount without drinking to excess but am not sure if this is possible. So for now I will try my best to just keep off the juice. I am scared that just one drink will reverse the process.
    Sorry for the long post but it has been quite cathartic for me just putting it down on "paper".
    Good luck to you all in changing your lives for the better!
    JohnK-SA

    #2
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    First let me say "welcome". Many of us just happen to "stumble" upon this site and find what we need here.

    Don't kid yourself 7 days AF is a really big deal! Congratulations! Keep up the good work, AL in the quantities you described is not good for our bodies.

    I suggest that you read the My Way Out book if you haven't already done so. If you are AF with just the vit B, excercise, and your resolve you are doing great. But the full plan provides a very comprehensive plan including some other supplements, medication, hypnotherapy... It can be tailored to some extent to the individual but it is a must read.

    We all struggle with the "can we moderate" question. I am fairly new here too. After I complete my 30 days AF I will then reassess that question for myself and recommend you do the same.

    I have had some difficulty with sleep too. Mostly in the first couple weeks when I wasn't AF but had cut my consumption way back. But here I am now at 1:30 am and can't sleep. I'm told it does get better. I guess we'll find out together [LOL].

    Read many posts on this site and ask lots of questions. You're in a good place here with lots of good support. Sounds like you have awesome support from your wife too which is very helpful too.

    Good luck,
    periwinkle
    Even baby mountain goats must learn to tackle the smallest mountains first. sigpic

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      #3
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      Thanks for the support Periwinkle!
      Just to put you right - my wife is not supportive at all. She insists on entertaining our hard drinking friends, has her daily "spot" or two and has not even acknowledged my recent efforts so it is despite of her efforts and not because of them. The vit b shot just went with a mag. sulphate shot to curb cramping whilst cycling. I think that 30 days might be too short a period of time to consider going the moderation route. I have to learn to cope with the the social situations I find myself in being AF. In our culture if a man does not drink he is considered to be strange - my system just does not seem to allow me to know when I have had enough. We have a saying here "Brandwyn het nie briekke nie" directly translated "Brandy doesnt have brakes". I hope you get some sleep! My problem is that I cant stay awake.

      Good night!

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        #4
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        JohnK
        I'd say one minute is a big deal at the start.. 7 days is great - dont knock it.

        I remember feeling exhausted and emotional at the start. I guess its getting the toxins out of your body, and it is an emotional roller coaster ride.

        My husband did not totally support me getting sober either - he simply did not understand the depths of my despair. It was all up to me... but at the end of the day, its up to me anyway, with or without his support. I think that to get sober is a whole of body approach thing.. so mind body and spirit. listen to your heart and stay honest in your decision making and I reckon you will make it... (I did, and I'm nothing special).

        I've been sober nearly three years. When I started out I was hoping for moderation as an option, but i was too far gone for that and the longer I stayed sober the more that became my reality. I'm ok with it now, but its been a ride, for sure... hardest and best thing I've ever done and I cant recommend it enough. It honestly does not bother me being around drinkers now... I simply dont want one anymore.

        About time too.

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          #5
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          Welcome John! And congrats on the 7 days. I was a hard liquor drinker too, would drink neat vodka every night, but every other day would be around at least half a litre - I always felt guilty the next day and would just have 6 shots or a couple of beers, LOL! Anyway, I think you are wise when you say you feel 30 days would not be enough before trying to moderate. I've abstained 50 days, then after a major slip lasting around a year, for 40 days (which was horrid!) and just recently did another 30 days for September, but I still don't seem to be able to get it quite right. I seem to have done quite well at restricting myself to 2 drinks, but I soon slip into the habit of that being every night. That's just me though, and we're all different - all the best in your plans and most importantly - keep posting!!! It helps! The guys over on the AF Army Thread really helped me through my last 30 days.
          Listen for God's voice in everything you do, everywhere you go; He's the one who will keep you on track. Proverbs 3:6 The Message

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            #6
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            Welcome, JohnK, I hope you stick around, learn more about this program, and get some more AF time under your belt, so you can make some clear and effective decisions about alcohol in your life. You'll find a lot of information and support here!

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              #7
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              JohnK,

              My mistake, it did sound to me like you were getting support from your wife. Sorry about that, but you do have support here. And you can do it! Good that you see you realize you need more than 30 days AF before you can weigh your options. It sounds like you have some good plans in place. Have you read the book yet? You can download it in pdf format from the web site.

              JohnK-SA;454847 wrote: "Brandy doesnt have brakes".
              I liked and drank brandy for a while. My husband never drank any of it - but he stopped buying it for me because the bottles we bought always seemed to have "leaks" in them. Huh! Now I know!

              Hang in there JohnK. You're on your way.

              periwinkle
              Even baby mountain goats must learn to tackle the smallest mountains first. sigpic

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                #8
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                John,

                Your symptoms are very typical of the first 1 to 2 weeks going alcohol free. (AF)

                You will be amazed by the end of two weeks how good you feel. You will feel better than you can remember in a long time, especially if you start getting good sleep.

                There are things that can help you sleep that are not bad for you, I use Melatonin 6 mg, others you Valerian, some use Calms Forte. You may want to try one of those suggestions.

                Keep drinking lots of fluids, take your vitamins, etc, and you will come out of these symptoms pretty quickly.

                7 days is huge, btw. It takes hard work and effort to get through those 7 days. I know well.

                Please stay with us and keep us informed how you are doing.

                Oh, and if you can, download and read the book or order it online. It is a very informative book and the MWO plan is good. You may or may not choose to use meds. I don't use the hypnosis cds, either, but the supplementation recommended for us is superb and if you do much research on your own you will find it matches most of the recommendations out there, the exercise component you have already started, and this forum. We are a really good supportive group. The people on here have been an enormous help to me. I am one of those "hardcore" alcoholics who would drink upon first rising and getting hubby out of the house, until I passed out.

                Please take care of yourself, let us know how you are doing and keep on keepin' on!!

                Cindi
                AF April 9, 2016

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                  #9
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                  Good Morning! It is morning here in South Africa.
                  Thank you all so much for your support!
                  Another day and feeling good. A little less drowsy today despite a mosquito disturbed night.
                  Went with DW to a friends home last evening for cocktails where a lot of my drinking buddies were present. I took alcohol free beer with me and was thus not so conspicuous but as the evening progressed the less I could relate to the humour - I guess I will learn in time. No cravings but just awkward without the routine of drinking. It is an absolute pleasure getting into the car without fear and driving home without losing my way! I had hoped for more energy and enthusiasm - especially at work but I guess time will heal all.
                  My excercise programme has taken a turn for the worse as a result of rupturing a ligament (I think) in my ankle on a construction site yesterday afternoon. Off to see the doctor today.
                  I am sorry for being so intraspective at this stage but hope to be able to support others soon.
                  I have not yet downloaded the book or bought the cd's or the meds. My thinking is that I will try it with prayer and will power first and if I slip I will look at some other help. So far so good. At the moment I feel a whole range of emotions including anger at having wasted so much of my life. I will try to use the same approach I used to give up smoking 7 years ago - it was so difficult I just dont want to go through that again so rather not slip.

                  Regards to you all1

                  JohnK

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                    #10
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                    Hi John, you are doing great and your attitude is wonderful. Never apologise for taking the support. Right now you need it so soak it up and let it help you. The emotions will settle down. for me the anxiety lasted about 3 weeks, but during that time I had wonderful periods of serenity where I just knew I would get through. Giving yourself permission to feel what you need to feel is good and just going with the flow if you can. The good parts to sobriety far outweigh the more challenging parts like socialising.
                    You take care John
                    Living now and not just existing since 9th July 2008
                    Nicotine Free since 6th February 2009

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                      #11
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                      Welcome JohnK,

                      It's great to have a fellow South African here... we are few and far between.

                      Well done on 7... or is it 8 days AF!

                      I would highly recommend downloading the book and reading up on the programme. It has helped me enormously. I did 2 months AF and I am now modding sucessfully. I take almost all the suppliments recommended, some I don't as we can't get them in SA.

                      Hang in there, the emotional side of it is a rollercoaster ride at time, but it does get better.

                      Dee
                      "The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it"

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                        #12
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                        G'day there John. Great to see you here mate. Re- giving up smoking 7 yrs. ago, and thinking back to how you did it. i think that is a good move. I gave up the smokes 15 yrs. ago, and i reckon that was harder than giving up the grog! I remember how i kept busy, visualising a better life for myself etc... more energy, feeling/looking better. the REAL me etc...those 'techniques have helped me when i've gone alcohol free. Well done, and this site and the ppl on it, as you have seen, is/are great. Good luck, G.

                        AF since 26 October 2008.

                        'I am part of all that I have met, yet all experience is an arch wherethro', gleams that untravelled world whose margins fade, forever and forever when I move'

                        Zen soul Warrior. Freedom today-

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                          #13
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                          Hi John

                          Congrats on your 8 days!

                          That is huge!

                          Nothing much to add to what the others have said, just wanted to say Hello and I am glad you are here :welcome:

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