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    I also really liked the bittersweet story of Rory that you shared, [MENTION=1354]narilly[/MENTION]. It has an amazingly happy ending! (Other than that you didn’t end up together.) Imagine that, 25 YEARS sober -and starting at a pretty young age! Cool that you’re back in touch, and both sober. Fingers crossed on your job prospect. It is hard to wait!

    [MENTION=23208]wagmor[/MENTION], good for you for taking precautions to plan many activities to help get you through these challenging days as you break yet one more association with binge drinking; a block of days all alone when your partner is gone.

    [MENTION=24301]Feebee[/MENTION], you have TWO in-laws who lived to be 99?? You Minnesotans are long-lived people! My grandpa lived healthy until 99; couldn’t quite make it to 100. I’m glad for you everyone is cooperating so well and coming together as a family. I went through that at this time last year, when my in-laws both died within 3 months of each other. It is a hard time and very draining. Thinking of you.
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      [MENTION=16186]available[/MENTION], it must’ve been really hard to get up at crack o’ dawn again after your vacation! So sad that you’re losing both of your doggies within months of each other; that IS emotionally exhausting. I was surprised when your other one died as I thought it would’ve been Mads then. She has been with you through thick & thin. Working from home would enable you to give her lots of TLC.

      [MENTION=7261]Guitarista[/MENTION], Ireland does offer a lot more than drinking culture. The west coast is just stunningly beautiful! My favorite part was climbing Croagh Patrick. Breathtaking! I couldn’t get all the way to the top with my bad knee, despite knee injections before the trip and pain pills before the climb, but enjoyed what I could. I’ll have to check out the Irish musical artist that you mentioned.

      Anyhoo, my Ireland trip was just an example of one of my false starts with sobriety, before I got the necessary steely resolve of all of you. Now I know better what to expect.

      [MENTION=11704]Byrdlady[/MENTION], that’s cute how a Southerner thinks 39 degrees F is cold! But, it is cold if with a bad wind chill and wind and coming off of the ocean where you are.

      [MENTION=8356]Lavande[/MENTION], I am familiar with Daniel Amen and his ANTs. Now I just have to do it!

      Wishes to all for a safe AF night in Nest.
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        SLO, have a good night. You sound great! I will go to Ireland one day, it will be a sober trip because I don’t drink
        Yeah, I did not hear about the job, oh well. I will just have to wait impatiently.

        Hubs is coming home tonight.

        Don’t drink everyone.
        Narilly

        "Nothing in this World Can take the place of Persistence"
        "You can have the life you want OR you can Drink"

        AF April 12, 2014

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          Good evening Nesters,

          Brrrr, only 18 degrees here Byrdie & yes my nose runs all winter long, haha!!
          The storm is supposed to reach us by Saturday night into Sunday so I hope you're back home by then. Have fun

          Feebee, I know how hard it is caring for your elders. We did all that too with parents & grandparents & other assorted relatives. Take care of yourself & don't get too weary.

          Wags, awesome on your nearly 2.5 years, yay!!!

          Pav, not giving a crap what anyone else thinks is a natural byproduct of aging. For so long we kill ourselves trying to be perfect to make others happy only to find out they will never be happy. So it's a wonderful gift to finally realize that you are the only one that really matters. Do what you need to do to make yourself happy & let the others take care of their own happiness

          Nar, I think we've had more winter down here than you have had - weird. Hope your day out with your mom was good.

          LC, wishing you safe travels!

          I am happy to be meeting some old work friends for lunch tomorrow - between snow storms, LOL
          Wishing everyone a safe & cozy night in the nest.

          Lav
          AF since 03/26/09
          NF since 05/19/09
          Success comes one day at a time :thumbs:

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            Morning, Nest:

            This made me laugh, Slo, as I thought the same thing (and I'm a mid-state Californian, so 39 is practically the arctic), but I thought it would be Narilly from Canada being amused by that number... I feel your pain, Byrdie.
            Originally posted by Slo View Post
            [MENTION=11704]Byrdlady[/MENTION], that’s cute how a Southerner thinks 39 degrees F is cold! But, it is cold if with a bad wind chill and wind and coming off of the ocean where you are.
            I am very tired this morning as I didn't have a great sleep. Struggling for something to say, so I'll just say this - take good care of yourselves, and DON'T DRINK.

            Pav

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              Pav yeah, haha, 39F is 2C, right now it is -7C and I’m thinking it’s not too cold,lol. Lav, we haven’t had snow for awhile which is strange. Tomorrow it’s going down to -14C so it’s getting cold.

              Pav, thanks for the post and I hope you get a good keep tonight.

              Another note on my Rory story. We have been in touch now for 8 years and one night when I was drunk I told him I loved him. He did not know what to say. When I woke up the next day I was totally mortified because it was one of those drunk phone calls. I know better than to call anyone when I’ve been drinking. The next day I told him that I did love him but it was more of a friend love. Omg I felt stupid. I did not tell him I had a problem with AL. I was too embarrassed. Isn’t that crazy?

              Anyway, have a great day everyone.
              Narilly

              "Nothing in this World Can take the place of Persistence"
              "You can have the life you want OR you can Drink"

              AF April 12, 2014

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                morning nesters

                quick check in for me. This waking up early is killing me but i will get used to it. there is no way in my drinking days i would be doing this.

                Oh Nar now that is funny, well funny now. Bet you could have crawled into a hole with telling him you loved him. I have a feeling i may have also done the same thing during my drinking days. sigh. my fingers are crossed for you and this job.

                Slo, yes i didnt expect my rupert to go before my mads but thats life i suppose, as hard as it is sometimes. One day at a time is all i can do at the moment.

                Work is busy and my head is spinning still. the PA is on extended sick leave as she has cancer and while that is sad it makes my life easier. i rationalise this by thinking the cancer didnt make her an awful person and i only wish her the best though it doesnt sound good. The new PA is just wonderful and has no problems with asking for help and since i have been here so long, its nice to be of help. I have approval to work from home which is great, i just need to get organised.

                Glad everyone is sounding so good. Take care xx
                AF free 1st December 2013 - 1st December 2022 - 9 years of freedom

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                  Hi Nesters!

                  Sounds like everyone is doing well here!

                  Nar, gosh, I cringe to think of the drunk telephoning I used to do.. I was either professing my love or starting fights. I was wondering if you've since talked about your al problems? I'm just curious.
                  Funny, everyone here (phx) is also running around in warm clothes, commenting about the weather. 63°F and overcast!
                  Lav, it sure would have been nice to know long ago that we are only responsible for our own happiness. Thank you for the recommendation.. I don't know that, with the Ants, but am going to look into it.. sounds very useful.
                  Byrdie, definitely keep that bat at home! or you could start bat a hag day in the office..
                  Wags, that was great to hear of how you planned your 4 days ahead of time.. that you're still taking such care. So many nice things to be doing!

                  ok. I'm a bit loopy. It was a great flight and I wasn't in any way tempted to drink.. yayy! I did observe what others were doing, though.. it's literally a free for all and there were several people going for it. After the long flight, waiting in the passport control line, one could see the red, ruddy faces and blurry eyes of those who weren't feeling their best! No one feels their best! But I felt about 200x better than I have on many other occasions.
                  I have mixed feelings of being happy to be with my parents/sister but sad that the girls couldn't come with me this time. They understand.. I needed to spend time with my mom.. but still. They are missed here.

                  Big hugs to NS, Ava, Pav, Slo, Pauly, G-man, Freebee.. I'm so glad to be part of this wonderful community!!
                  Last edited by lifechange; January 15, 2019, 04:11 PM.

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                    I have discovered a weak spot in my quit, and I have thought more about drinking today than any day in the past 2+ years. I'm coming here to hold myself accountable and put in writing that I don't drink and I won't drink, but I also want to process this out a bit and maybe help someone else better anticipate this.

                    As most of you know, part of why my 2017 car accident was so traumatic was that it was my second bad accident. The first was in 2001, and I was lucky to walk away. I sustained spinal injuries and an unfortunately undiagnosed (until a year later) traumatic brain injury. It was a devastating event, and I've never fully recovered or returned to my "old self" in some ways.

                    This morning I went to have a first session with an osteopath in the hopes of getting some help managing chronic low back and neck pain, both of which are likely the long-term consequences of both accidents. Long story short, he didn't seem like he knew what to do with me, and essentially said I was "too closed" to let him figure out how to read me. He went on to say that he wonders who I was back in 2000 and whether that person is still inside me or if we'd ever find her (kind of implying that the 2000 version of me was more open). At the end of the session, he acknowledged that he isn't great with words, but I left feeling re-traumatized. This isn't the first healing practitioner who has essentially said I was "too broken" for them to really help me.

                    So the weakness in my quit is this: I'm solid when dealing with current day situations and issues, and rarely even have thoughts of al pass through my head. But the trauma of this morning goes back 17 years - and I find myself scrambling to get out of this horrible emotional pit I unexpectedly find myself in this afternoon. I'm not going to drink, but I have had to dig deep and pull out every tool I have. I'm struggling and I'm really upset, but I will not drink at this (or him) nor will I drink to escape this extremely uncomfortable set of feelings. It just sucks.

                    Thanks for listening.
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                      Hola nesters!

                      Wags mi amiga! Sounds like you're in a tough spot right now. Ok. I'm just the guitar player, but this is what i would say if i was the osteopath. -

                      'Yo Wags, s'up. Sorry you're still experiencing that pain, physical and maybe elsewhere. I'm a little stumped but........Now, let's look at what we CAN do. Let's try this, this, and maybe this. There are no guarantee's, but let's try a few things K? K. Do we agree on trying this idea, and this one too? Ok, good. My approach is client centred and collaborative. Starting today, let's do this. Then tomorrow let's do this. In 2 weeks, we'll touch base and see how our plan is working, and tweak it where we need to'. In the meantime, call me if you have any issues or questions, K? K.'

                      Yeah i know. Just stick to guitar G man. Take care of yourself Wags. You deserve it. You kick major ass my friend.

                      Good news Ava re work from home. Regard's to Mads.

                      Big waves to evabody.
                      Last edited by Guitarista; January 15, 2019, 05:31 PM.

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                        [MENTION=21027]wagmore[/MENTION], I am FURIOUS with your osteopath. You are NOT broken. You were physically and emotionally hurt but the real you is fine. Please find another practitioner who is willing to work with you exactly as you are.

                        Understanding the 3 principles, which I've talked about often, has helped many people recover from PTSD. Let me know if you're interested in any specific resources.

                        :hug::heart: NS

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                          Wags, good for coming here when you are feeling the pull. Hang in there, these uncomfortable feelings will pass an then it will be another day. It’s so good that you are not drinking, imagine how bad you would feel if you were drinking, ugh.

                          Way to go on working from home Ava, Mads will be so happy.

                          Life, yeah it is crazy how much people drink on a plane. You really notice it when you are abstaining.
                          Yeah, we all have made those drunk calls, they are cringe worthy.

                          Hola GMa!

                          Don’t drink today everyone.
                          Narilly

                          "Nothing in this World Can take the place of Persistence"
                          "You can have the life you want OR you can Drink"

                          AF April 12, 2014

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                            Wags((hugs)) I'm in disbelief at his attitude,makes no sense to me? I'm sorry you had to deal with him and his making you feel so bad LC,I don't fly cuz of my anxiety,everyone I tell that to says to"have a few drinks" hah! I could see getting a buzz going before the flight and being upset that I can't maintain it once in the air,plus I'd never want to go on a trip and waste it being all drunk and not remembering anything,glad you're having a nice trip,waves to all
                            I have too much shit to do today and tomorrow to drink:sohappy:

                            I'm taking care of the "tomorrow me":thumbsup:
                            Drinkin won't help a damn thing! Will only make me sick for DAYS and that ugly, spacey dumb feeling-no thanks!

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                              Greetings Nesters,

                              I had a nice lunch with two old work friends today, more like sisters than anything

                              Wags, geez, I've worked with many osteopaths over the years & never heard one of them speak like that. I would think about reporting him to your state medical board, that's just ridiculous!
                              We all have our own ways & timetable for healing, don't let that fool upset you :hug: I'm sorry you were subjected to such buffoonery.
                              Have you by any chance looked into acupuncture to go along with some really good PT? I know a few people who had good results & relief from chronic back pain. Hang in there, we know you don't drink.

                              LC, I hope your visit goes well & I hope you do get a chance to look into Daniel Amen's books & website. Both have been very helpful for me.

                              We are hearing about several snow storms working their way to the east coast, haha! Looks like i'll be staying close to home for a while

                              Hello to everyone & wishing a safe night in the nest for all!

                              Lav
                              AF since 03/26/09
                              NF since 05/19/09
                              Success comes one day at a time :thumbs:

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                                Wags, I’m sorry that happened to you. Bad doctors are out there. Dump him. My nephew went to 18 specialists before he found one that actually helped him. Hang in there. You did such a good job of describing the situation that I am pissed off right there with you. Don’t let the idiots get you down. You are one of the most “together” people I know...well-balanced, compassionate, empathetic, whole. I’ve never met you, but I consider you one of my best friends. I’m so sorry that happened.
                                Byrdie
                                All you gotta do, is get thru this day. AF 1/20/2011
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