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    #1

    Which came first??

    Hi there,

    Anybody have any advice on how you deal with the feelings of failure?
    I posted on here for the first time yesterday and i really wanted to do something positive today, and i did try..again! i have only just had a drink cause i could not deal with how i was feeling physically. The pains i get in my muscles are unbearable to the point that i can hardly move and the feelings of panick an nervousness get so bad that i dont know whats real anymore. I know i need to ask my doc for something to help cause its only the physical symptoms that are stopping me but i cant seem to pluck up the courage to sit there face to face and tell him i have a drink problem... i feel like a fraud cause he's treating me for depression, although i am depressed i dont know if its caused by the drinking or if i drink because of the depression....i cant say which came first, just like the chicken or the egg!!

    Lou x
    "Every passing minute is a chance to turn it all around"...Penelope Cruz...Vanilla Sky
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    Hi Lou - hang in there - CV can you help, dear??

    Hi Lou lou
    I think what you are saying will ring true to most of us here. The drink and depression are such a vicious cycle arent they? I know exactly what you are saying - the terrible pain, the anxiety, the edginess, the terror. This is NORMAL after drinking - drinking effects the nervous system and this in turn makes these feelings of anxiety and depression run rampant after a night - or a cycle of drinking. Perhaps our good friend cv can give you some info on this - she tends to give some good research on this type of thing.
    Lou - do you think you can muster the courage to speak to your doc? Do you thikn you would be willing to try a medication? Have you downloaded the book?
    I am going to email you something right now.
    Hugs hugs hugs
    Jen
    WE ARE HERE
    Over 4 months AF :h

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      #3
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      Aw thank you Jen,

      I have to go to docs nxt week anyway for follow up appointment but this makes me even more scared as im being treated with prozac for my depression. Which was working until i started drinking even heavier, its almost like i dont wanna get better...but i know i do, feels like im having a constant battle with myself and i always lose. Just dont know myself anymore.
      Think something went wrong with that mail hun..didnt get it

      lou x
      "Every passing minute is a chance to turn it all around"...Penelope Cruz...Vanilla Sky

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        #4
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        Sorry Jen!

        Sorry Jen, should have been clearer...im a she not a he!!
        Thank you so much for taking the time out to help me, just being able to speak to people who understand is such a great relief.
        I never though id be able to discuss the things i have on here

        Lou X
        "Every passing minute is a chance to turn it all around"...Penelope Cruz...Vanilla Sky

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          #5
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          dont be ashamed

          Youd be amazed how many people "self-medicate" anxiety and depression with alcohol and other drugs. Believe me - you are not the only one - I doubt your doctor would even be overly suprised and has probably seen it many times.
          I will try that email again.....
          Over 4 months AF :h

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            #6
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            Im sorry

            I dont know why I assumed you were a he...I am so sorry......please forgive me.....
            Over 4 months AF :h

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              #7
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              No problem x

              Thats ok Jen... you dont have to say sorry! Easy mistake to make, didnt wanna put my full name as its quite unusual so if anyone i knew was on here, they would know who i was straight away.
              But i dont suppose that should worry me too much cause they would only be here for the same reason!

              Lou x x
              "Every passing minute is a chance to turn it all around"...Penelope Cruz...Vanilla Sky

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                Hi Lou, just thought I'd let you know you are certainly not on your own. I am feeling exactly the way you are. I plucked up the courage to see my doc (felt so ashamed) and now I'm glad I did - he didn't seem that surprised when I think back! I'm just waiting to put everything to arrive, the supps, cd's etc - not holding out much hope of getting medication off doc (live in UK and its bloody so backward here!) so I've ordered meds online - when they all come I'll put the programme into practice. In the meantime, I'm drinking myself stupid still (had 3 bottles of wine last night) feel dreadful today and I just can't wait to get started now. I'm also on antidepressants and like you, I'm not sure if I drink because I'm depressed of vice versa. One thing though is, we are no alone in this - stick with it, we can do it.

                thinking of you and here for you, Moll xx

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                  #9
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                  Hi Moll, have been waiting to see if you re registered. Good to see you. Moll didn't your doc offer campral? or don't you fancy trying that? it is used in this country for alcohol addiction.

                  Lou please tell your gp about your drinking, you know he probably knows already? just waiting for you to come clean. go on please just pluck up the courage and do it let the words come out of your mouth. I am in the UK too and I am so glad I went to docs. I am so glad I have found this site. and there are quite a few of us from UK.

                  lol Carole

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                    #10
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                    Hi Moll

                    Its just so horrid, isnt it? i'v literaly been racking my brains all day trying to figure out if i was depressed before i drank or not...but unfortunatley iv drunk so much over the past few years that i cant remember!
                    Am going to try my hardest to tell my doc next week ..I just dont wanna be judged.
                    Thanks for your support, ill keep posting as im really gonna need pushing on wed when i have my appt!

                    Lou x x
                    "Every passing minute is a chance to turn it all around"...Penelope Cruz...Vanilla Sky

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                      #11
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                      Sophia

                      Thank you for caring, and i am going to try my hardest on wed to tell my doc about it. It's just so scary, admitting it on here has been a release that i needed but to sit in front of my doctor face to face absolutely petrifies me.
                      I know i have to do it though...so please keep pushing me!!

                      Thanks

                      Lou x x
                      "Every passing minute is a chance to turn it all around"...Penelope Cruz...Vanilla Sky

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                        #12
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                        Hi Lou, good luck with that. Let us know. I hear Topa can be prescribed for migraines so maybe your doc wouild write it that way.

                        hugs,

                        Ivy

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                          Hi Sophia, just re-registered on this site today. How are you doing the camprano? My GP wouldn't prescribe me anything until I've seen someone from the D&A Team and I'm still waiting for the supps & cd's to come and in the meantime have ordered toppa off internet, so am just hanging around drinking and waiting. My daughters birthday yesterday, had a bbq that started in the afternoon so was literally drinking wine all day, god knows how much I downed but I feel terrible today and spent most of this beautiful day in bed and now I'm up I've got the shakes and trembles so bad, I hate feeling like this, as I'm sure you know. Keep me up to date with your progress, I'm sending you loads of support. We can do it!

                          Lou, I'll be thinking of you on Wednesday - how I dealt with it was just to keep thinking the way I'm going I would end up losing my job, getting done for drunk driving or ending up in hospital with liver failure anyway. I am sure he suspected anyway cause I've had a couple of blood test done in the past 6 months and when he said that my liver function was not quite right he asked me if I'd been drinking more than usual just before having the test and I lied. It was awful sat there in front of another human being admitting that your a drunken mess but that's their job and what they're paid for and they must see it time and time again, it is a massive problem, just look at us all on here! I want to be able to just have a couple of drinks sociably and not down 3 bottles, it's frightening how fast I can glug the first bottle of wine down, really bad. As for the depression, whatever came first, this problem we've got only enhances it, it's a vicious circle. Keep posting and here for you, take care, Moll xx

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                            #14
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                            Hi Lou

                            Glad you have an apptmnt on wednesday. Wot time did you eventually go to bed last nite?
                            Bambs
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                              #15
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                              Hiya Lou, I know how hard it is to take that first step and go and see your GP . I got a pleasent surprise with my Doc he just kept telling me i've done the right thing and that the hardest part is over.
                              Bye the way thanks for the advice about my missus.....Definatly gonna try that...
                              Good luck on Wednesday .....Will be thinking of you.
                              LOOK AT IT THIS WAY.........
                              IT CANT GET ANY WORSE.............

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