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[cv1]

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Hi Lou, are you having detox tremors in addition to the depression? Is it up and down? Let me know a little bit more so that I can help you with the right nutrient formula to help you get past this:l And, some nice long tub baths with epsom salts to get magnesium into your muscles too.

[Lou]

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Hey Bambs

Got to bed bout 4..i think, am crappin myself bout the doctors i really hope i have the guts to tell him the truth. You ok missus? mailed you before.

Lou x x

[Lou]

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CV

Hi,

Yes am having terrible tremmors too, my muscles seem to be trying to clench themselves so hard that its painfull an i cant stop this shaking... but its a really slow,exadurated and obvious shaking. I had to drink again today as it was so obvious what was wrong with me an i didnt want my family to see it, i couldnt even eat with them as i couldnt keep my food on the fork cause of the tremmors.
Would really appreciate any advice...thank you

Lou x x

[Lou]

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Wayne

Hiya sweetie,

Am crapping myself but i know i have to do it...no probs bout the advice.... hope it goes well and she loves it, let me know eh.

Lou x x

[cv1]

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Lou, can you get magnesium and epsom salts? The epsom salts, 2 cups in a bath of hot water for 30 minutes, helps to get it into your system while it also helps to pull toxins out through your skin, which is one of your largest detox organs. Here are some of the specifics for pain management, which includes the GLA and the D-phenylalanine. Really, if you can get some epsom salts and soak, you'd be surprised how much it will help right away. I know this is painful and rest will help, but the vitamin C, 2,000 MG every 2 to 3 hours, will help with the detox and clearing your system as well. First thing is to get you past this than try to get the correct formula that will help you fight off the cravings. I promise the first 3-5 days will be the worst, then it gets a bit easier..

Pain Control

A number of studies have demonstrated that amino acids are extremely effective for relief of chronic pain. In one, oral doses of D-phenylalanine (not L-phenylalanine) provided significant relief for patients with lower back pain and chronic pain from lumbar fusion, neuralgia, and osteoarthritis. In another, two grams of phenylalanine taken one hour before a dental procedure resulted in a marked rise in the patient's pain threshold. Adding D-phenylalanine to morphine can reduce and, in some cases, eliminate individual variation in the drug's effectiveness. The explanation for these remarkable effects the action of D-phenylalanine in the brain, where it appears to block the action of certain enzymes that normally break down and destroy endorphins and enkephalins, the body's natural painkillers. Three grams of D-phenylalanine has also proved effective for the control bone-cancer pain.

Tryptophan can also help combat intractable pain as a result of its effect on the brain's primary pain-inhibiting center. For some people, three grams of tryptophan per day can reduce chronic maxillofacial pain. A study at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology found that three and a half grams of tryptophan decreased sensitivity to pain and increased drowsiness but did not impair sensory motor performance. The cofactors vitamin C, niacin (vitamin B3), and vitamin B6 must be present for the tryptophan to be effective.

To order the Pain Formula (includes schedule)




Alcohol-Induced Tremors, Shakiness

In a study of abstinent alcoholics, all of the participants continued to suffer from tremors ten weeks after treatment. This common problem can be reversed by combining the amino acid taurine with magnesium, calcium, B-complex vitamins, and omega-6 essential fatty acid (Table 19, Seven Weeks to Sobriety). Of these nutrients, the one that is new to you is taurine which, according to a 1977 study, effectively blocked the shakes of alcohol withdrawal.

Gamma-linolenic acid (GLA) can also reduce tremors that occur during alcohol withdrawal. This fatty acid is also essential to the prevention and treatment of alcohol-induced central-nervous-system impairment. Calcium and B-complex vitamins also help control this problem. All the B vitamins are essential to nervous-system stability, while calcium and magnesium calm and relax nerve tissue. The depletion of both these minerals by alcohol is responsible for the acute tremors that occur during withdrawal. It has been shown that magnesium can reverse delirium tremens. At Health Recovery Center we administer intravenous magnesium to control patients' muscle tremors and help prevent convulsive seizures.:l

[Lou]

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Cv

Thanks for the advice...so much appreciated, i can get magnesium and epsom salts but where do i get the pain relief?? Do have to ask for it on prescription?

Lou x x

[cv1]

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No Lou, the magnesium will help with pain relief as will the 5-htp/Tryptophan and the GLA. In the meantime, if you're having cramping muscles, please take some potassium or eat a banana to help also. GLA will also help with the pain and tremors...Also, a bit odd but I want you to try to take a breath in through you nose to the count of 5, then exhale slowly through your mouth to the count of 5. When you breath like this, try to make sure that your lower belly goes out on the inhale and in on the exhale...do about 10 of these and they should help calm you too.:l

[cv1]

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d-phenylalanine source

Lou, try www.vitacost.com for some additonal supps. I work with them and they are great!

[Lou]

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CV

Thank you for all the advice, i really appreciate you taking the time out to help me.

Lou x x x

[MattD]

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Seek help

Hi Lou,

Reading what you are going through is very troubling and you clearly should not be going through alcohol detox by yourself. There is nothing at all wrong with seeking professional medical assistance when it is needed. I pray that you stop torturing yourself and detox in a safe and controlled manner.

I love CV and her research and compassionate advice but you need more help than bananas and epsom salts right now. We are here for support and encouragement but you need to first get through detox safely and succesfully. That is something we cannot provide over the chat boards.

Sorry for the tough love but you've got me really worried for your health and safety.

Matt

[Lou]

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Scary truth!

Matt....You scared me, but i know your right...i am going docs on wed and i really wanna tell him the truth.
But im so scared of sitting there in front of him and saying it...I just keep thinking that hes gonna think that im just a stupid girl looking for an excuse to drink. Which is silly i s'pose as he's been so good with my depession...really lovely in fact. I just imagine something changes when you say that its drink related..like you dont matter cause its your own fault!...i know im too sceptical but you have to understand that iv never done anything like this before.

Lou x x

[MattD]

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Hi again Lou,

I can relate 100% to the fear of talking to your Dr. I'm going in to do just that tomorrow. I had to be blunt in my previous post because your withdrawal symptoms are simply too severe to go through with just a chat room for assistance. Your detox will not only be immeasurably safer with medical care, it will also be immeasurably more endurable and successful. I will be praying for you tonight and every night my friend. We are all in this together and want nothing more than you to succeed in a safe and healthy manner.

If you'd like to send me a private message please do so and I'll stick with you through this. There's a way to do that somewhere on this board

Think on this.... I believe that once spill your secret, your Dr. and others will pull out all the stops to give you all the help you need. It's really hard for us to ask for help but for us it's essential. I'll make sure to let you know how my Dr. visit goes tomorrow. Please ask for help, you deserve it.

Matt:l

[Bambino]

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Hiya Lou-Lou ,

CV is so knowledgeable.!!! I was blinded with science there ! !!!

But I think that Matt is right. You need to medical assistance from your GP. i know you said that you feel like a fool, but as we talked about last night, he won't think bad of you. They have trained for 5,6 or 7 yrs to HELP people, not to cast judgement. You have NOTHING to be ashamed of. I went on tuesday , argued, begged and then last resort burst into tears to get mine, because they have given it to me before, and there i was AGAIN asking for more - they probably think I am a lost cause but I will prove them wrong....
You haven't done this before so why would they think you are. I know it is really scary, but why put yourself through the muscle pain, shakes and horrible shitty thoughts when by just swallowing your pride/shame you can overcome those first 5 days being comfortably numb ( isn't that a song by Pink Floyd?) . Anyway I digress...
Chick, You Know you can do it - it's just that first hurdle and once you've closed your eyes and leapt into the brink - there's no looking back - your home free !!!
I know you can do it.

Love, as always
Bambs
xxx

[Lou]

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Matt

Thank you so much sweetheart,

I never thought people would really give me that much thought or care about me!! I don't know how to do the message thingie you mentioned, but if you can do it then I'd be pleased..would like to know what your doc said before i go to mine.

Lou x x

[Lou]

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Bambs... your an absolute angel and i know your right, and with the support that i have recieved so far i actualy do think i can do it....Gotta push me on wed tho so i dont chicken out, so scared that im gonna be frowned upon. You know what its like here Bambs, what if he just dismisses it...i dont think i could deal with that.

Lou x x x