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    Day 3 start with fight with hubby

    Thank you all for your posts and encouragement. The good news is that I feel really good this morning - had a good sleep, woke up feeling normal, and calm. Then I made a huge mistake.

    I told hubby that I had found a website where there were lots of people just like me who are in day 1, day 5, day 30, whatever, who are all going through this together. I asked him not to come looking for me, and really out of respect for me I hope he does not until I invite him into my head. Anyway, I told him that there were so many people who were having no AL, or having one now and then, or binging, or falling off, and that the good thing about this group was that if there is a fall the overwhelming response from the community is to begin again. I really like the non-judgemental attitude here. Of course, my plan is to stay AF for at least a year and then see if I can handle an occasional few sips. But that is not a goal.

    Short term goal - my mom arrives tomorrow, and we have dinner plans on Friday and Saturday, and a piano recital on Sunday where I am playing. Goal is to get through mom's visit et. al. without AL and feel comfortable about it. I really think I can do it.
    Medium term goal - I leave for the US in early July, for several family visits and a wedding. Goal is to be AF the entire time.
    Long term goal - AF for at least a year, maybe forever, we'll have to see.

    SOOO, when I told hubby about the diversity within the group and the ways we are all helping each other, what he HEARD was that I was planning on going back. What he wanted was for me to say that I would not, assuredly, firmly, like I was confessing to a tribunal, and I would not do it. That made him mad.

    One criticism he has always had about me is that I make everything about ME, that I don't listen to HIM. In some ways that is true - when he gets angry with me, all I do is get defensive instead of hearing the real issues. When he is angry, all I hear are echoes of my mother yelling at me, my father yelling at me, and all those feeling of helplessness I had as a child and throughout most of my adult life.

    So as he was leaving, with his set jaw, sunglasses on, tight facial muscles, I walked him to the door and told him that even though it is true that I have a tendency to make other issues about me, THIS TIME is really IS about me. I am not quitting because he wants me to. In fact, I told him that I would drink to dull my fears of his wrath. Now, he's a pretty good guy, it's not like he's angry all the time, but I often don't say what I would like to so that he won't react badly. Not very healthy. His response, and it's a good one, is that people drink for all sorts of reasons, and if it's not one thing it would be another. Again, true, but what he doesn't know is that I can't use him as an excuse, and that I won't let him have this sort of power over me anymore. He was so angry his face was shaking. I started to cry silently. I told him that I felt strong, and that getting out of this mess would make me powerful. He said, 'maybe we should correspond over this.' which really hurt my feelings. I told him that, and he said that I was ignoring what he wants. I don't want to correspond with my husband over this!!!!!! He walked out, and I said 'thank you,' and he responded 'thank YOU' and you know just how he said it.

    I feel very sad, but I don't feel like drinking. I know I will have to accept that he wants reassurance, but really what does verbal reassurance mean? Absolutely nothing. And it is humiliating to me. I hope I can hold out and be strong inside until he understands why I don't want him to treat me like a preacher with me begging redemption and forgiveness. F-that!

    Bottom line - I must learn NOT to share my journey with him because he'll only respond to his own fears, and miss my point because he is coming from such a different origin.
    Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts.
    AF since May 6, 2010

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    Day 3 start with fight with hubby

    Sometimes when we change our partners are not quite ready for that change.
    I know my hub doesnt really like talking about my problems, he cares but he just wants everything to be ok.
    I find that if I just go about my business, doing what I know is right for me, then it seems to work.
    You are right, verbal reassurance means not a lot, actions and walking the walk are what counts.
    Maybe he also feels insecure because you are finding your answer to this problem elsewhere and it doesnt really include him. That can create all sorts of fears too.
    I hope your hubby calms down soon, dont forget, if he doesnt have a problem with addiction he might find it VERY difficult or impossible to relate to yours.
    Living now and not just existing since 9th July 2008
    Nicotine Free since 6th February 2009

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      #3
      Day 3 start with fight with hubby

      Tulipe,

      In AA and Al-Anon they explain that an alcoholic simply cannot promise to never drink again. We can only promise not to drink today.

      You are right. You must do this for yourself.

      I am proud you know what you can and cannot do at this point.

      Cindi
      AF April 9, 2016

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        #4
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        Tulipe,
        I don't presume to know what is going on with you, but one thing jumped out at me...
        You had angry parents, and now you have an angry spouse.
        Sometimes we replicate things without even knowing it ....y' know ?
        We're here sweat pea.
        Bridge
        If your 8 year old self met you, would they be proud?
        Rejoined life 20/5/19

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          #5
          Day 3 start with fight with hubby

          tulipe,it is good that you realise this journey is for you,my wife to doesnt not like to talk much about it,shes seen it 1st hand for many years,she does not have an addiction ,only me,as far as your family goes,as time goes on,they will come to like the new you,or not,one of the biggest things of late , ive lerned, we,as addicted people let people s thoughts control us,once we learn to solve that problem , we tend to adjust to a new way of life , with or without drinking , i do wish you well gyco

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            #6
            Day 3 start with fight with hubby

            Tulipe, you're dead right, this is about you this time.
            Good for you sharing your troubles here, and that the argument didn't cause you to pick up a drink. Sounds like you're serious, with the Campral and all, so keep your centre, remind yourself to be kind to you, and forgive him too. My husb doesn't have addiction problems either, but has been through hell with me and my addictions. It's not easy, for them or us. You're doing well, and so glad to hear you're at day 3 x
            KAYLA

            Current attitude towards addiction: Why ask why? Just accept that it is, and go from there ...

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              #7
              Day 3 start with fight with hubby

              Big hugs Tulip.

              My hubby is a bit like Mr Starts, he supports me 110% but doesn't really want to hear the nitty gritty behind it. So when after a year of modding I start to feel like crap it just doesn't make sense to him. He thought I'd sorted my sh*t out last year. Bless him, but he doesn't have a clue.

              Can I just say that maybe by your hubby suggesting you "correspond" he is keeping the comunication channel open between the two of you?

              Strength to you on your journey -- it's not easy, but it's so worthwhile.
              "The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it"

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                #8
                Day 3 start with fight with hubby

                Hi Tulipe

                I am beginning the journey like you :l sending you lots of strength. I agree with you and the rest of the posters - this IS about you -you can only do this for yourself. Don't get me wrong there are hugely important and very very strong influencing factors that have led me and others to begin this journey but the only thing that will make this work is if we do this for oursleves.

                I have also mentioned this site to my husband but he has never mentioned it since, my husband isn't a great talker however i do know that he loves me its just his way of dealing with things. This site is like a little family, it lets you blow off steam or its lets you share your happy times.. or a bit of both with people who have been or are right where you are at that moment in time.

                Keep your chin up Tulipe, keep strong, keep focused - you are doing incredibly well and pat yourself on the back for not turning to drink for an emotional crutch.

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                  #9
                  Day 3 start with fight with hubby

                  Hi Tulipe

                  Firstly well done on getting to day 3. :goodjob:

                  Alcohol is a crafty beast and I know that for me one of it's methods is to engineer a fight (or make a minor disagreement turn into a fight) so I can be angry! Yes, guess how I used to deal with anger, good 'friend' alcohol would be straight to my side! So mull over what happened and bear this in mind.

                  Your husband wants you to get better but it's going to change the balance of the relationship. It's going to take time for him to get used to the new sober you! Also, as Starty says, he probably just doesn't get how difficult it is to stop drinking.
                  Cinders advise for ODAT (One Day at a Time) is right, don't think about the year when you are on Day 3, it will just be too daunting.

                  Watch out for that trip from your mother, I always find them to be a huge trigger! Have a plan to cope if necessary. That could be not having any alcohol in the house, or telling her you are on antibiotics and can't drink or even telling her the truth if you can!

                  Your husband will start to believe you in time when he sees for himself that you are no longer drinking. Actions speak louder than words and he's probably heard broken promises before!

                  So JUST DO IT ODAT - and that will show him!
                  If alcohol made you happy I should be the happiest person alive! I'm not.

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                    #10
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                    Well done Triple hang in there I am on week 3 and two days like u I wouldnt speak out now I am starting to scarey but is issues r not mine we arent perfect
                    Take care Maddy

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                      #11
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                      Hi Tripile Well done I have been three weeks and two days nearly relasped tonite but coming in here
                      made all the difference like u I was afraid to speak up now I am slowly as I need to his issues are his I need to speak up assertivley. Hang in there hun
                      Maddy

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                        #12
                        Day 3 start with fight with hubby

                        Tulipe, you are right this is about you. My husband is angry when I drink and says nothing when I am not and I have learned that I just need to focus on getting better. Hopefully your husband will calm down in time when he realizes you mean business. Best of luck to you and congrats on your AF days,especially during such a stressful time.

                        Maddy, glad you came back.
                        "Keep your eyes and heart focused on the end goal at all times, and never settle for less."

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                          #13
                          Day 3 start with fight with hubby

                          Tulipe, it is great to see that you made it to day 3. each day is a gift. hubby being angry..i could write a book on that. im still struggling with that and we are separated. not that i would recommend it but our separation has really helped me alot. now we are thinking about getting back together and im drinking more. go figure. anyway cant use him as an excuse and im not. im just recognizing my patterns. i credit you for not drinking over the fight.

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                            #14
                            Day 3 start with fight with hubby

                            Tulipe .. I think it's great that you tried to talk to your hubby about how you were feeling (even if he doesn't truly understand - and most non-alcoholics don't understand, not fully anyway .. how can they). Me, I haven't talked to anyone (except you great people) about my problem, feelings, etc. I guess part of the reason I haven't is because I am afraid of either an uncaring attitude of some sort, or a non-understanding of what I'm going through.

                            As others have said, you can and should make this about you and only you right now. If he can't or won't try to understand things from your perspective, you don't have to talk to him about it right now ... especially if you see trying to talk about it always ending in bad feelings and/or a fight - because that's not what you need right now when you're already fighting the big fight with AL.

                            If it feels right to you, you could tell him that you choose not to talk about it right now .. and just go about your business, doing what you need to do .. and maybe he'll feel left out enough, as he sees you progressing and being happy on your own, to take things down a notch with his attitude.

                            I'm sure he's a good man who wants the best for you and your relationship .. so I hope I don't sound like I'm putting him down. My hubby is a wonderful man too, but totally doesn't understand my struggle and I know that if I tried to talk about it he'd say "just do it" ... Which, as we all know, is easier to say than to actually get done!

                            Hang in there. ((hugs))
                            AF for two years. Slight relapse. Working on it at the moment.

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                              #15
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                              :l:l:l
                              Goal 1: Today
                              Goal 2: Tomorrow

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