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    #16
    how to get over past mistakes

    Gold;830972 wrote: Hi Katie,

    I think it is natural to reflect on how we got to where we are once we start to make changes in our lives.

    The key phrase you used is the "things done whilst under the influence", another term is intoxicated, your behaviours were influenced and poisoned by the alcohol you consumed. You are not that person in reality, I'm not advocating denying responsibility for the things that happened but suggesting that you do not identify yourself now with the actions at that time. Your primary responsibility has been to choose whether to remain under alcohol's influence knowing how it affects you, and you have chosen to be free of the influence of alcohol which is to be commended. In addition you have recognised that your desire to be influenced by alcohol was driven by feelings of low self-esteem which you are now addressing.

    These things are in the past and the only thing you can change is how you see them. Perhaps they were loud calls for your attention to be the impetus for change, and you heard them. You are starting afresh and what you have learned and are still learning is compassion and understanding for yourself and others. Try not to feel guilty and overcompensate for your perceived failings, move on wiser and determined to be all that you can be.

    I don't believe that your husband's attack on you was karma for your actions whilst drinking, after all you have paid for those actions with your DUI and your subsequent actions to change things. Your husband did not have to assault you, that was his decision alone.

    You are not a failure, your son is young and will grow up with a strong, compassionate, supportive mother. As to not being able to drive him to places, he gets to go on the train and buses, I used to arrange special trips to experience a train ride or a bus ride when mine were small, there is so much to see and fun to have on public transport for a small child. I realise it is much less convenient than driving but he is a lucky little boy to have the experience and your full attention on your journey's together.

    Let go of your worry about the past and enjoy the present with your son, it's the little things they remember, train rides, candy floss, donkey rides, simple things.
    Thank you so much, Gold... your endless wisdom and articulation is amazing.. you let me see things so clearly.. You are right on all levels; I did "pay" for the things I did when under the influence.. legally and with my emotional pain and suffering. But I choose not to suffer anymore but be a better person.. You are also right in that my experiences have led me to be a more compassionate, and maybe, wise person too - I have always been caring, but the fact of the things I have gone through enables me to understand others more and empathise - that's why when sometimes as a nurse I get a patient with anxiety, depression or AL issues, I am able to be the best person I can be to help them, and do not judge.. someone even said "I can tell that you really understand me"..
    Also, as you said - not being able to drive has led to some good things - for one I am saving a heap of money by not having to buy petrol, car maintenance and yearly rego's etc.. plus I do get to take my son on the train a lot which he absolutely loves, being a big "Thomas" fan! plus I am also getting so fit with the walking I have to do.. and with walking you get to look at things more closely.. and my son does get my full attention rather than when driving you have to concentrate on the road..
    so thank you for helping me to see your wise perception..
    I just wish as per the assault that my ex would just admit to it rather than me put me through all this anxiety and stress.. i've had to pay for my mistakes, he needs to pay for his..
    And yes, at least now I know fully the effect AL has on me.. and it was my impetus to change.. I am lucky in the fact I have recognised this before anything worse happened to me.. I just have to be aware and stay aware and not let my guard down to AL again.. leaning on AL has led me to seek help with my low self-esteem and depression.. so in a way I could maybe even be grateful? as now I am getting the help I need to have a happy life and put the past behind me..
    Thanks again so much Gold, and to everyone else that has also offered me kind words and support.
    Love Katie xxxxx
    "It works if you work it, because you are worth it!!!"

    :groupluv:

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      #17
      how to get over past mistakes

      Great thread. KatieB, once again your started a thoughtful meaningful conversation that has really contributed to our understanding of ourselves.

      I noticed that my life consists of my thoughts. Seriously, I have been trying to choose the good ones. Making a list of all the things I am grateful for, the accomplishments since being AF, help to ground me.

      Forgiveness of yourself is a process. It takes time. We have all done things we regret and feel stupid and angry about. I feel that if I was in my right mind (not under the influence) I would have made better choices. It is a relief to know that AF I like myself and the choices I make. AF, KatieB, you are a wonderful person. You make good choices for yourself and your son. You are building on that day by day. Sending you strength and hope.
      Formerly known as redhibiscus

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        #18
        how to get over past mistakes

        I have felt the same way...and its not benefical to dwell on the past....it'll make you drink again. You can make amends to folks, and then you turn it over to God...write down everything you remember that is "haunting" you, put it in a box to God, I used an old shoe box....put it up on a high shelf, and ask for forgiveness from Him, and let it go. When it comes up in your mind again...say aloud, I thank you Lord that I have given that to you, and you've forgiven me, and you will handle it for me"...it'll help put the negative thoughts out of your mind... I have a saying at the end of my posts, that meant alot to me....I'll put it in caps here too...
        "NOBODY CAN GO BACK AND START A NEW BEGINNING, BUT ANYONE CAN START TODAY AND MAKE A NEW ENDING".... don't worry about the future, worry about today.... Hang in there!
        "Nobody can go back and start a new beginning, but anyone can start today and make a new ending"

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          #19
          how to get over past mistakes

          Thank you stargazerlily and toughintexas..
          I do love that quote about making a new ending.. that's a great way to look at things.. we can only change things NOW in the present.. I cannot change the past but can ask for forgiveness.. from myself and spiritually.. and endeavour to not repeat the same mistakes..
          thank you stargazer.. I do always make good decisions when AF.. though the fact I chose to drink to deal with issues is something that is hard to deal with.. but I know myself and understand myself.. I know I am not a "bad" person and that I was having trouble coping.. I have had to handle things alone for so long and did not know what to do.. thanks again all.. I will try my hardest to put the past behind me and move forwards - onwards and upwards!
          Katie xxx
          "It works if you work it, because you are worth it!!!"

          :groupluv:

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            #20
            how to get over past mistakes

            Hi Katie
            You're doing so well and making yourself a new tomorrow. Don't spoil it by crying over yesterday. You're son is young enough to forget and to appreciate his mum's new resolve.
            The rest of your family will too, one day, when they see you have changed. Stay strong.
            You know many of us are just lucky we didn't get picked up for driving under the influence. I now have a job where I need to travel, so if I lose my license, I lose my job, but this on its own has not stopped me drinking, and I have driven under the influence since I got the job.
            Concentrating on the negatives is never a good idea. Look at the positive things about life AF, and be happy and proud of yourself. :goodjob:

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              #21
              how to get over past mistakes

              Thank you Dancingon,

              I am ready to make huge positive changes to myself and life! I am ready to put the past behind me! Being AF feels sooooo good! no more regrets over saying or doing stupid things - i can make up for my mistakes of the past, and i feel i have already.. I need to stay AF to have a good life! I have learnt and I am ready to move forwards in a positive way.. thanks again,
              Katie x
              "It works if you work it, because you are worth it!!!"

              :groupluv:

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                #22
                how to get over past mistakes

                KatieB, i am sorry I have not been able to post. There is so many things I want to say about this, but I had eye surgery and my eyes are swollen shut so I can't read or write much, but I love you and you are doing a great job! Stay strong and sober and you will feel better each day. You are a wonderful person so love yourself. We all love you!
                I'm not what I should be, I'm not what I could be. I'm definetly not who I want to be,
                but I'm sure not who I used to be!

                There is no pit so deep that God's love is not deeper still.

                "I CAN DO ALL THINGS THROUGH CHRIST WHO STRENGTHENS ME." Phil 4:13

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                  #23
                  how to get over past mistakes

                  Hey KB!

                  I love this post too - great food for thought, and you've already received a ton of great advice. I agree with everything said so far. Here's the way I've come to look at the same issue...

                  We don't wake up one morning and suddenly decide to screw-up our lives with alcohol. Instead we learn to use alcohol to provide for something missing in our lives. I look at it as a way to cope with stress, or trauma, or emptiness or the myriad of issues that can drag us down.

                  Now here's the key, if we knew another to cope, we wouldn't use al as a survival mechanism. But because we didn't know another way -- we didn't know how to deal with the issues that threatened -- well we did the only thing we knew how. Given these circumstances you can see how things could not have come out a different way... it's called surviving.

                  What you've done under the influence is not you -- that's clear, but you can fix that by growing from it. And today you have new information - a new truth - you have different ways to cope and to survive.

                  I know what you mean about perfectionism too - we beat ourselves up over mistakes instead of realizing that the only way we learned to walk was by falling down. Mistakes are opportunities to grow.

                  Hope this helps.

                  Take care.
                  tw
                  Nobody asked for this; we're just stuck cleaning up the mess. -

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                    #24
                    how to get over past mistakes

                    KatieB;830844 wrote: Hi all,

                    I have started to feel a bit down on myself lately.. though I know I have come far.. I just don't know how to forgive myself for all the stupid/irresponsible and terrible things I have done whilst under the influence.. I just don't know how I can forget and get over the things I have done.. from my car accident, to the incident with my baby, and the things I have said and done to people.. I hated myself back then so i know that's why i did what i did.. i did not want to live... but now i do but i wish i could erase my past and start afresh with the knowledge i have now! i thought AL was helping me.. helping me to survive.. but it nearly destroyed me on a number of occasions.. i know my ex's family blame me for the assualt on me.. im feeling i probably deserved it.. it was karma for me after the things i have done whilst drinking.. i feel i may sink into depression again.. i feel such a failure.. often i think my son is going to grow up and not love me or hate me for the person i am,..
                    Hi Katie
                    I understand how you feel completely, the shame that goes with being a drinker is horrendous. Sadly, it doesnt help, it only compounds the situation. Be easy on yourself as you try to get better, no one would choose to be this way and we always think we can control the drink, but we ususlly cant. I live in a small village and had to stop going in the local pubs because of my drunken antics, horrible. Im moving out in 3 weeks thank god and am trying hard to change my attitude towards drinking, but as you say, i still find it hard to forget the things I have done. My councellor said that I should just let go of the shame as if people dont like it they dont have to be near me or friends with me, and thats true. Draw a line in the sand and understand that you are trying to get better, if people judge you, well, they judge you, you dont need small minded people like that around you and it wont help you to get better. Show some of the compassion you show others, to yourself, we are all to hard on ourselves. Anyway, hope you feel better soon x:l

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                      #25
                      how to get over past mistakes

                      Thank you for your post.

                      I agree, wonderful advice given.

                      After some time sober, I come up from the deep pit my guilt takes me to while drinking. But still, now, I wonder. Will I ever be able to live long enough to repair the hurt I've caused?

                      I realize my family is so disappointed in me for having this problem.
                      They have distanced themselves from me, they just can't face the fact I've had this drinking problem. Not their Mother! I've lost out on so much of their lives since my marriage and moving away. Four years gone.

                      I try to be thankful. If I did not have blackouts, if I did not become that other person drinking, would I have this necessity
                      to quit? If I was a happy drunk, only causing harm to myself, would I be able to quit?

                      I do so hurt each sober day that it came to this. But I am determined to not die remembered in the end for only this.

                      I have to hope that with time and my staying sober, they will forgive. It is all I have hope for. I also look at the possibility I will live out my life alone. I don't want that. I am afraid with time I would go back to drinking big time as a form of suicide then.

                      I keep trying daily. It gets better each day. I cannot give up yet.
                      :thanks: to everyone here.

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