Quitting doesnt require any medication! Has no shortcuts

[allankay]

Quitting doesnt require any medication! Has no shortcuts

Thank you vlivengood. I did clarify that there are conditions that are beyond our will power. An example: if you have a heart condition and you need medication to keep your blood pressure in check.

I am surprised how quickly people become defensive. Imagine raising kids with no rules, they ask for sweets you give them sweets, they want an x box they get an xbox. Good parenting requires a balance between loving/caring and discipline. The same goes for adults.

AK

[stumpy]

Quitting doesnt require any medication! Has no shortcuts

Thanks Slay, I'm going to try half the pill, we'll see what tomorrow brings.

Allan, I hope I didn't offend you with my post, it wasn't my intention. I just know a lot of people on MWO who really needed the AB or other drug to continue their success with being AF. I'm glad I didn't have to go that route but I am also glad there is help for every level of the addiction.

[allankay]

Quitting doesnt require any medication! Has no shortcuts

Stumpy, not at all.

I have been reading up on AB and it scared the hell out of me. I dont know how anyone can take it, but you are right its their choice, I just think the majority can do without it.

AK

[vlivengood]

Quitting doesnt require any medication! Has no shortcuts

As I stated I am lucky to not suffer from anything requiring medication either mental or physical.

I really cant say much about some of the medications people take for mental or emotional illnesses because I know very little about the disorders or the treatments.

But I do know that when I am eating right and exercising my mood and energy sky rocket, I feel fantastic and sleeping problems not a chance the only sleeping problem I have is finding time to sleep.... not falling or staying asleep

When I was drinking I suffered from anxiety, insomnia, depression, panic attacks, lack of energy, back aches, heartburn, headaches, body ache, digestive issues, i could go on forever. Quit that and got going on diet and exercise and POOF all gone.... AGAIN LUCKY ME I GUESS

[stumpy]

Quitting doesnt require any medication! Has no shortcuts

Allan, my doctor wanted me to take Nal, made me feel like chit and you have to wear a medical braclet while taking it, no thanks. I read up on campral, didn't like that one either, I also don't feel I need anything for cravings. I do like L-glutamine for lots of benefits come from it. I'm honestly too tired to crave wine.

[Slaythefear]

Quitting doesnt require any medication! Has no shortcuts

allankay;1394479 wrote: Thank you vlivengood. I did clarify that there are conditions that are beyond our will power. An example: if you have a heart condition and you need medication to keep your blood pressure in check.

I am surprised how quickly people become defensive. Imagine raising kids with no rules, they ask for sweets you give them sweets, they want an x box they get an xbox. Good parenting requires a balance between loving/caring and discipline. The same goes for adults.

AK

LOL! Imagine raising kids with no rules? We have been witnessing that with all the new technologies and toy explosion in today's world. It has become the impulsive me generation in the race for corporate profits. Our economic world is built on continued growth for jobs and that has created a whole generation of people who have a sense of entitlement to all these advances in drugs and technology...the easy way. As a society, we are being retrained to think in different ways. What's the most convenient and easiest solution? What makes life easiest? Our profit oriented stock market has created much of this problem and the fact that people will inherently want the easiest fix. Technology and drugs/easy fixes are everywhere. It's a whole new culture. It makes us a bit lazy.

Ok, let me put my box away now. I'm drifting off the support forum. Eek.

[allankay]

Quitting doesnt require any medication! Has no shortcuts

Stumpy, this may sound dumb but have you tried exercising. And I don’t mean a 1 mile walk. I mean 5 miles run, 2 mile swim... I come home from the gym and pass out sometimes. I have heard that from many people that suffered from lack of sleep. Diet could be another cause. I am obviously not a professional and can only sympathise with you. If I don’t get my 6 hours of sleep I feel like crap.

AK

[paulywogg]

Quitting doesnt require any medication! Has no shortcuts

hey allen,im with you on the meds route,baclofen,anti deps,nal,too scary its like trading one addicition for another something else to taper off,i only came to this site for support,i dont know whats normal to feel,ive never tried quitting before,not looking for a magic pill,just looking to quit,like everybody else

[Slaythefear]

Quitting doesnt require any medication! Has no shortcuts

paulywogg;1394518 wrote: hey allen,im with you on the meds route,baclofen,anti deps,nal,too scary its like trading one addicition for another something else to taper off,i only came to this site for support,i dont know whats normal to feel,ive never tried quitting before,not looking for a magic pill,just looking to quit,like everybody else

Pauly, I'm logging through another 30 days AF. Would you like to ride along? Maybe attaching your cart with someone will help you feel accountable and supported? The boards are full of support, but sometimes knowing you have to race along side someone helps to keep you from blowing it. I noted your thread on your slip with your family members. You owe it to yourself and if it requires telling them you need some space, then so be it.

[Mom21961]

Quitting doesnt require any medication! Has no shortcuts

i'm confused. The whole mwo program recommends meds for success.

[LibraryGirl]

Quitting doesnt require any medication! Has no shortcuts

I think this thread is just one person's opinion, Mom. You're right, there are med threads on MWO and people are encouraged to take whatever route necessary, if doctor approved. Although I didn't require medication, I'm not going to knock the benefits of AB, baclofen or any other medication a person might decide to use in their *personal* battle with AL. I do think a doctor's advice and approval should be sought before beginning any medical regimen, but I don't agree that we, on MWO, need to be parents to other adults on this site.

P.S. It's easy to become frustrated with other members when you read about continual slips. Especially when you are having success at quitting. It's also a mistake to think that you won't ever be in that same place and that staying quit (from drinking) will always come easily. I think it might be a newbie error. I did the same thing when I came here and quit after the first day I posted. I thought, why can't everyone be like ME, lol. Be careful of dogmatism or delusions of grandeur and let people make their Own Way Out.

[K9Lover]

Quitting doesnt require any medication! Has no shortcuts

allankay;1394387 wrote: For example AB can potentially kill you! Is it worth taking it just to avoid cravings?

Antabuse does nothing for cravings...that's not it's purpose.

[LillyE]

Quitting doesnt require any medication! Has no shortcuts

I agree LG. With all due respect Alan, and I can tell your intentions are basically good, I think that is a little unnecessarily judgmental and also rather condescending. I am not going the meds route myself - nor do I wish to for various reasons - but I don't think it's helpful to imply that anyone here who is is just seeking an easy answer. For some people, taking meds might actually be, as you put it, one of the "sacrifices necessary to achieve this goal".

Have you read widely about addiction? Whatever people like Alan Carr or Jason Vale might have you believe it's just not that simple. It's an incredibly complicated, multi-faceted problem. As Molly said, whatever it takes. And what that means varies widely for each individual - physiology, psychologically, socially, spiritually. If you've found a drug-free route you're happy with that's working for you - hooray! But why demean other people's efforts by suggesting that's the only correct solution?

[paulywogg]

Quitting doesnt require any medication! Has no shortcuts

slay,ive missed you! when i first came here,you were one of the first,sometimes only person to respond to my questions,posts,ive thought about you so many times through ups and downs,if slay can do it i can too! thats been my mantra,you are so nice and calm,no agendas,simply supportive,thats why im here,im sad its such a struggle for us all,stumpy also,so kind,and giving,and you guys take the time out to offer advice and a kind word to people,i practically live at this site,i have to! nobody understands exept people who suffer through this

[Slaythefear]

Quitting doesnt require any medication! Has no shortcuts

paulywogg;1394546 wrote: slay,ive missed you! when i first came here,you were one of the first,sometimes only person to respond to my questions,posts,ive thought about you so many times through ups and downs,if slay can do it i can too! thats been my mantra,you are so nice and calm,no agendas,simply supportive,thats why im here,im sad its such a struggle for us all,stumpy also,so kind,and giving,and you guys take the time out to offer advice and a kind word to people,i practically live at this site,i have to! nobody understands exept people who suffer through this

Evening Pauly.

How are you feeling today? Are you ready to give it a go? My first 30 days were filled with symptoms and discomfort. The ups and downs were crazy. It was not easy, but I do know for me, it really helped to stay away from other drinkers. We are so fragile in the beginning. Is there a way you can stay away from those who aren't on your path? It's hard enough fighting our own brain without those added temptations. I'll check in and count days with you.