Who's for prohibition?

[Alcoholic]

Anyone for prohibition of alcohol in their country? Just curious.

[JackieClaire]

Who's for prohibition?

Hi Alcoholic, don't think we've met so hello.
Think I saw you on another thread saying you like a 'lively' discussion. Think you may just have started a really great one.

Alcoholic;1398654 wrote: Anyone for prohibition of alcohol in their country? Just curious.

Absolutely not and three reason I can think of the top of my head at the moment.

#1. Just because alcohol causes me and a certain percentage of the population problems I cannot see why the majority of the population has to accept a prohibition policy.

#2. The city I live in was once one of the great industrial cities of the UK but over the years industry has all but disappeared. Our greatest employment opportunities are now with in promoting tourism and leisure. With prohibition would cause huge unemployment on a massive scale.

#3. Both my children ( both university graduates and in their mid twenties) work in tourism and leisure because they can't find employment in the field they studied. One as an assistant manager in a bar/restaurant/party venue and the other as an assistant manager in a chain of wine merchants. So they are both working, have their own flats and if they weren't working they'd have to come live back home. Love them both to bits but me and Mr JC are used to our empty nest.

Dying to see what others think.

[kuya]

Who's for prohibition?

Whilst statistics claim 7% as the rate of alcoholism the rate of problem drinking is so high that prohibition would cause civil unrest IMO

Having truly faced this addiction I see ALL regular drinkers as having a problem.

As a creature we seem to need to get high. This was jung's explanation for the need for religion and why AA decided that belief was the foundation of the recovery of alcoholics.

Since we have that need I would like to see prohibition of alcohol and the legalization of weed.

[Alcoholic]

Who's for prohibition?

Jackie:
Nice to meet you!

I'm against prohibition of alcohol too but I can't justify to others why I agree w prohibition of marijuana. I have never once tried any illegal drugs, so I wonder if alcohol was illegal, I probably would never have tried it.

Devil's advocate:
14 millions people in US are addicted or abuse alcohol. Many teens are killed in alcohol related auto accidents. Many rapes occurred during alcohol intoxication. Many innocent people killed due to alcohol related traffic accidents. Not to mention many other types violent crimes such as robbery, assaults occur during alcohol intoxication.

I think we should prohibit gun ownership or have much much stricter gun control laws in US (I'm going to be deported to another country for saying this....). But somehow I agree w you about being against prohibition in our country. Why, I'm not quite sure. It's a weird unsettling opinion that doesn't sit well w me and so I'm also very curious to hear what others think...

Thanks for giving such great arguments against prohibition! Hope to see/hear from you on this site again!

[Alcoholic]

Who's for prohibition?

Kuya: if I tried weed, I probably would agree w you....

[JackieClaire]

Who's for prohibition?

Mmmmmmmmmmm problem is I now work with drug addicts and alcoholics in a drop in centre and I've seen the awful damage that long term weed use can cause and these are just the few people that ask for help. Don't know how many are still out there.

I was utterly shocked when I found out their primary addiction.

[kuya]

Who's for prohibition?

I actually don't like weed, but it's effects are not as socially damaging.

I have mentioned this before on another thread and someone (eve?) said it makes people fat and unmotivated. To which I say, true, but I would rather an overweight unmotivated population than the liver damaged,violent, early death, broken family population caused by alcohol.

[kuya]

Who's for prohibition?

JackieClaire;1398706 wrote: Mmmmmmmmmmm problem is I now work with drug addicts and alcoholics in a drop in centre and I've seen the awful damage that long term weed use can cause and these are just the few people that ask for help. Don't know how many are still out there.

I was utterly shocked when I found out their primary addiction.

I know Jackie and the heightened THC found in skunk and the fact that dealers are lacing weed with methamphetamine is causing a big problem in NZ..... But .......still better than alcohol.
And I say this as a mother of a 23 year old son with a weed problem. He can grow from a weed problem but alcohol WILL only go one way ...down

[paulywogg]

Who's for prohibition?

my friends are always trying to get me to smoke weed,i dont cuz it aint "legal"however ill drink and drink,if they made alcohol illegal it wouldnt be at every place you go to eat,buy gas,cripes they have beer at chuckie cheese!however,if we made it illegal,so many people would be outta work,and everyones gonna find a way to feed any addiction,doesnt matter what it is.

[Guitarista]

Who's for prohibition?

Hi Alco and all,

Prohibition doesn't stop folks drinking. We won't stop the SUPPLY, but we can work on stopping/reducing the DEMAND. We can always find any illicit drug of choice 24/7, so prohibition doesn't work. Reducing the DEMAND of illicit mind altering substances, and legal substances like booze must be our focus.

[paulywogg]

Who's for prohibition?

thank you mr.g,anyones gonna find a way,shoot,prisoners make their own alcohol in the toilet,with fruit!

[bettygirl]

Who's for prohibition?

speaking as a person who once lived on a dry reservation, i can say that prohibition doesn't work. people will find a way to get drunk. where there is a will there is a way. i would drive 30 miles each way to another county to get alcohol and risk arrest bringing it back to the rez...a drunk will always find a way to drink, just like a drug user will always find a way to get high. i also believe in decriminalizing drugs and making treatment more acceptable and available.

[Nelz]

Who's for prohibition?

Well, it would certainly make my decision to not drink AL easier....LOL

I think I agree with G on this one. Its just like all the other "vices" drugs, booze, cigs, prostitution, guns.....pick you poison, outlaw them all and then tell me just how much the activity goes down.

I for one am too daym scared to try anything "illegal" (cuz Im wayyyy too purdy for jail), so I have never tried drugs, and if booze was outlawed I would not by any "shine", but I dont think I represent most of society.

Hell, just look at our jails...they are running their own commerce inside the jail..........go figure. I think when people want something bad enough, they will find a way.


But its an interesting topic of debate

[mario]

Who's for prohibition?

All probition done as help create one of the b-iggest crime organisations in the world, banning alcohol like before would do nothing to stop consumption,it would just drive it underground,as most people who drink wouldent have abuse problems the way forward IMO is to having the public more educated and aware of the dangers of alcohol instead of banning it.

[Alcoholic]

Who's for prohibition?

Guitarista:
Hi, agree w you idealistically that reducing the demand for alcohol should be the focus, but it would be nearly impossible to reduce demand as the public loved mind altering substances, especially legal ones.

However, I must say, over the years, the world has done a great job focusing on the negative effects of smoking and reducing the demand for it significantly.