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[Kradle123]

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199days;1480062 wrote: Ok my mistake, I am sorry for coming across as condescending , really did not mean too.

Think Maybe I get a bit too curt with drinkers and maybe I forget I was once a person who was convinced he had it all under control and was not going to have serious life issues.

Wish you all the best with your drinking .

Good luck whatever you do.

Ditto,

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[halfway content]

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Freethinker,

I value your point of view and I came to MWO first because I wanted to moderate my alcohol use, Now I am considering just quitting for good. These past nine days have been very hard so I am not sure that I want to do this again. I know, however, that I will forever be surrounded by people who drink and that is totally fine with me.

[freethinker]

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halfway content;1480077 wrote: Freethinker,

I value your point of view and I came to MWO first because I wanted to moderate my alcohol use, Now I am considering just quitting for good. These past nine days have been very hard so I am not sure that I want to do this again. I know, however, that I will forever be surrounded by people who drink and that is totally fine with me.

I understand. Quitting may be in my future. I certainly don't think about drinking all the time. I've mostly been a social drinker and agree that it's hard to avoid those who do. Good luck with whatever your goal is.

[pixie]

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Welcome back freethinker - I like your new name. I hope you find the support here to reach your goals. The moderation vs. AF thing can get a little controversial here as you may have noticed. I think it's mostly because those who struggled dearly before becoming AF just wish to prevent others from going through that same struggle.

One thing to keep in mind - drinking issues tend to be progressive. Your drinking attitude and thoughts may be fine now, but that could change. For me that change came very slowly and it was easy for me to dismiss it. Being honest with yourself in assessing your drinking habits over time will be important.

Best wishes!

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pixie;1480106 wrote: Welcome back freethinker - I like your new name. I hope you find the support here to reach your goals. The moderation vs. AF thing can get a little controversial here as you may have noticed. I think it's mostly because those who struggled dearly before becoming AF just wish to prevent others from going through that same struggle.

One thing to keep in mind - drinking issues tend to be progressive. Your drinking attitude and thoughts may be fine now, but that could change. For me that change came very slowly and it was easy for me to dismiss it. Being honest with yourself in assessing your drinking habits over time will be important.

Best wishes!

I'm probably past the progression point. I'm 52 and have been consuming alcohol for a long time. I drink much less now than I did in my younger days. You're right about the controversy moderation raises here. It may be an attitude of "helping" by some, but may also be a bit of jealousy or envy by others. Who knows?

I'd always try to be respectful of someone's challenges as long as they don't presume to know me or my mind or put me in a predetermined box.. Thanks for your thoughts.

[K9Lover]

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Hi (again) Free!

I truly wish you success in whatever you choose. The moderation vs. abstinance discussion has been going on forever, and I'm sure will continue to do so. I don't see it as jealousy or envy, rather I see it as speaking from experience. We've actually had quite a few members that fought tooth and nail to promote moderation. That's fine...us "oldbies" really are just trying to help. Lord knows I drank pretty hard when I was moderating! But that's me, and like you said, I don't presume to know you or your situation. Each personality is different. It's also easier for me to have zero M&M's than to stop after a handfull! LOL

Anyway, I'm glad you're here and I hope you can find encouragement.

K9

[freethinker]

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Thank you for the encouragement and a thoughtful response.

[porqoui]

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Hi Free....miss the good looking avatar

Throwing my 2 cents in here....

When I first acknowledged to myself that I was an alcoholic, I was also smoking pot.

My AL addiction counselor asked me why I smoked pot. I told her that it made me have positive thoughts, I felt more energetic and generally at peace with life. Her answer was...keep smoking it and see what happens....

My positivity turned to guilt, there was no energy for anything and life was a constant conflict. But I had to go through that for myself. I don't smoke pot anymore.

You have to do what you feel is right for you, and I wish you luck on your journey....PPQP

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[QUOTE=porqoui;1480313



You have to do what you feel is right for you....PPQP
Very well said.

[freethinker]

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porqoui;1480313 wrote:
You have to do what you feel is right for you, and I wish you luck on your journey....PPQP

Very well said. Thanks

[K9Lover]

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Hi Free!

Just wanted to say HI and see how you're doing today! It's the middle of the work week, I hope it's going well for you! Now...bring on FRIDAY! LOL

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K9Lover;1480357 wrote: Hi Free!

Just wanted to say HI and see how you're doing today! It's the middle of the work week, I hope it's going well for you! Now...bring on FRIDAY! LOL

Doing really well today. Been very busy. Enjoying beautiful weather even if only through my office window.

[sweetie78]

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I forget to think about it and then I binge drink, abstaining is easier than stopping after a few for me. I dont seem to be able to put the brakes on

[Hippyman]

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sweetie78;1481629 wrote: I forget to think about it and then I binge drink, abstaining is easier than stopping after a few for me. I dont seem to be able to put the brakes on

For me 1 drink is tooooo many and 100 wouldn't be enough. Put those days behind you. There is a happy sober life waiting up ahead.

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This post sounds just like me....but the problem is I do not put my mind to it. I have every excuse in the world.....I like the taste of beer, I like red wine with pasta, I like a margarita with mexican food....and so it goes.