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    #31
    Well, That Didn't Take Long

    Hi Everyone,

    It's so helpful to come here and see you guys. I joined the meditation group, NS, so thank you for the link.

    Pinecone, yes the pillow helps (I bought it online). I even got a Buddha statue, the beads and lit candles. I used to make it a ritual and do it in a room that I only used for that. It definitely helped. I just wanted to do it in a very pronounced way at the time. I'd like to get back to it because I do think it made a difference - 7 months was a good chunk of time and I was seriously meditating so I think it was a pretty big part of my success. And, quitting was probably a part of my failing. I'm not religious so the meditation gives a spiritual component that is missing.

    NS, they say even 5 minutes will help, and it sounds like it did other than making you sleepy. If I remember correctly the book about it I bought said that if it makes you sleepy, not to close your eyes. It talked about that. Just leave them partly open and kind of look a little down - can't remember exactly but it must be an issue for many. My husband would fall asleep in a second if he tried it.

    Where I'm moving to actually has a Buddhist Center. It is something I plan to check out and possibly become a part of. There is nothing like that where I am now. I think that isolation has been part of my problem all along. I'm alone A LOT and since early retirement I have felt kind of rudderless. I think getting involved in that among other things will help. I'm going to also consider part time work and volunteering. I read so much about needing to feel purposeful and I don't have that right now.

    K9, thank you for your sweet words. You are a hero around these parts! I so wish you didn't hate your job - that has to be hard. I don't know if you'll come back to this thread, but if you do please know that you are an inspiration for staying sober through such a bad spell of shit........mine was nothing compared to that and I know it. I didn't need much of an excuse. Maybe you can apply for another job? I hope you got your new doggy and that things are getting better.

    Alls, I have some yoga tapes and they refer a lot to "active meditation" which is what we get during running.

    ML, Hi!! I joined the meditation group and plan to see what it's about today. One of the addiction books I read says that people who meditate have more self control. I think one key is to do it every day even if just for a short time. Let's give it a whirl. Oh, actually, doing it before sleep is okay, I think. They make a distinction with "sitting meditation" and I think when I was studying it they said you could do it lying down. I liked the formality of sitting, tho.

    Well, guys, I leave Sunday for my trip. Getting excited - this will be the first time we are able to actually spend time in the cabin (the actual closing is today and we've already sent all the paperwork and $$). So, my husband gets there late tonight with our first load of "stuff" and I go up Sunday. I think I'll try to upload a picture if you guys want to see it.

    Have a super day everyone. Thanks again for your support.:l

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      #32
      Well, That Didn't Take Long

      mylife;1539160 wrote: :H:H That would be me - I think I need to meditate right before bed! LOL.
      Good morning,

      Now I'm thinking I might try to be open-minded about meditation. I did of course get up and make dinner and may I say, it was unusually good ----could it have been the meditation???. Well... probably not but what I did notice was despite the fact that I had gotten up very early yesterday and had a rather frustrating, challenging day, I was totally refreshed last evening and stayed up quite late (checking in on MWO ). I'm often a crash very early sort of person - even now that I'm AF.

      So, I think I'll try it a few more times in the late afternoon and see if it continues to improve my evenings. Even if it's a placebo effect -- if it works, that is fine with me!!

      Have a great day/evening!

      :h NS

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        #33
        Well, That Didn't Take Long

        NS, x post -

        Actually, they've done a lot of studies about the benefits of meditation. I doubt, tho, that anyone has made a link between it and culinary prowess :H Like you say, tho, whatever works.

        Hugs,
        UN

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          #34
          Well, That Didn't Take Long

          Hi, UN

          I would love to see a photo!!

          We cross-posted about the meditation -- I'm going to give it a try. I also signed up for that Oprah/Chopra program. I think it starts on Monday.

          Your goal to be committed to something beyond yourself sounds right on target to me. I think we already discussed Man's Search for Meaning on your other thread. I re-read the first 1/3 of that book anytime I feel myself drifting into that hated existential abyss!

          Have a fabulous time at your cabin. We'll look forward to your posts if/when you can send them or after you return.

          :h NS

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            #35
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            NS - view from front porch/deck:

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              #36
              Well, That Didn't Take Long

              NS - kitchen (VERY tiny!). I think this pic actually makes it look bigger! Lots of pretty wood like this throughout. It was built in the 40s!!


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                #37
                Well, That Didn't Take Long

                Front view of cabin. Sorry, kind of put these out of order. But, these 3 pics give you a feel. The little building to the left is a garage and guest room with bath.


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                  #38
                  Well, That Didn't Take Long

                  O my gosh, UN

                  Life itself will be a meditation when you are there!

                  How long will you be there for this visit? If eventually you got rid of enough stuff of life so you could fit in the cabin, think how simple life would be .

                  Thanks for sharing the photos!

                  :h NS

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                    #39
                    Well, That Didn't Take Long

                    NS, you are reading my mind! This cabin represents freedom in more ways than one!!

                    I'll be there exactly a week - my husband is staying almost two - to get some things done to the cabin.

                    The idea for this trip is to get a feel for if we think we could live there for up to two years (that's how long we think it will take to sell our house -- for a multitude of reasons -- would be a fluke if it sold sooner)..........But, we have to think "longest case basis" ..........

                    Anyway, our house now has become more work than we want to keep up with, and we would love to simplify. This house would allow us to go out and about -- hike, raft, kayak, whatever......(it's so small we'd have to go do things to keep from killing each other) :H

                    If we find it's just too small, then we could buy something bigger once this house sells. But if there's any way we can be there and not feel claustrophobic, we would be so much better off financially in our old age!

                    Glad you like it - I'm so excited.......and I think it will be very peaceful - and the extra good news is that when we were last there we met some really nice neighbors. OH, and there's a river right by it that you can hear from the cabin........ultra "zen" like.:H Can't wait.

                    Thanks for letting me share my excitement with you!!

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                      #40
                      Well, That Didn't Take Long

                      Hi UN! (Remember that one time you signed your name as Unwanted instead of Unwasted...that still makes me laugh)

                      Thanks for YOUR kind words! Yes, I have applied for another job (I never quit trying!)...one day things will work out. My new doggie is such a sweetheart...my goodness I love him SOOO much. He is kind of timid but is quickly coming out of that. He's starting to feel much more secure. I hate to think what happened in his previous life to make him so skittish...but I will do everything I can to make him happy. He loves to snuggle and he makes me so happy!

                      Can I move into that cabin with you? I won't take up much room, I promise! :h
                      :heart:I love my daughter more than alcohol:heart:

                      Believe in yourself. You are stronger than you think.

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                        #41
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                        K9, yes I remember the Unwanted thing - that was actually auto correct on my ipad. It makes some doozies. I hate it because you can really make some freudian slips if you're not careful.:H I promise, though, I'm not quite that insecure.:H:H Every time I type Alls (for our friend Allswell, it types in Allstate). HA

                        Hey, I hope you come back to this thread because I wanted to ask you if you might consider selling real estate for a living? Now, I have to admit when I did it I had the security of my husband's salary. But, I have a friend who got out of dental hygiene into real estate, sent both her kids to college and created a solid business. Now (she just remarried), she and her new husband fix houses up and sell them in conjunction with her selling.

                        I actually taught school, and aside from that did a lot of administrative work in the corporate world in my former life........my final major occupation was real estate sales and I ended up doing quite well with it. Just a thought!

                        And, yes, you can come live with me.:H You could be my sober coach!.:H:H

                        I'm glad your doggie is coming out of his shell. My kitty was like that and now she is amazingly loving and the best little companion. I think they're very grateful when they finally get a good life and someone who loves them.

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                          #42
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                          Hi Unwanted - LOL

                          I don't like my iPad telling me what I am trying to say either. HA

                          I haven't actually considered real estate, it seems so risky. I guess I am scared to give up my benefits and retirement and steady paycheck...I only have ME to rely on!

                          My Jack (dog) has really helped me get through my "down" times the last few days. I feel bad that I can't even take him for a walk right now (broken foot) but I do give him lots of kisses (I tell myself that he loves that. LOL)
                          :heart:I love my daughter more than alcohol:heart:

                          Believe in yourself. You are stronger than you think.

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                            #43
                            Well, That Didn't Take Long

                            I hear you K9, it would scare me too without another salary. But, there just seems to be something so wrong about spending the bulk of your day doing something you hate. Well, I hope you come up with something better. Life is short!

                            Can your daughter walk your doggie? I haven't followed what's going on with her but assume she still lives with you? I think she's still going to school? Sorry, don't remember her age. Regardless, though, I'm sure Jack will settle for kisses until you can walk him. Animals are such a gift - so much company. I always feel better when I'm around them.

                            Thanks for your support K9. I always love hearing from you. I'm so sorry about your foot. BTW, how did you break it? I missed that part of your thread.

                            xx,
                            UN :lilheart:

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                              #44
                              Well, That Didn't Take Long

                              Hi everybody,

                              Un, your cabin looks wonderful! I hope you get some relaxation up there! I bet the air smells good.

                              K9, that's good news about your new dog. I'm going to be getting a puppy at some point in the next few months. Not having a dog in the house is a real bummer!

                              NS, existentialism is a trick! Don't go down that road!

                              Great to see you all today.
                              "When you have faults, do not fear to abandon them." Analects of Confucius
                              AF 11/12/11

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                                #45
                                Well, That Didn't Take Long

                                WOW, UN! What a dream cabin!! We should have the MWO reunion at YOUR place!! What an exciting time in your life!! I'm so happy for you! Byrdie
                                All you gotta do, is get thru this day. AF 1/20/2011
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