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    MWOers,

    Hey gang, woofer here 35 year old male in the Phoenix area (I just moved here from the DC/Baltimore area a couple weeks ago). As I speak I am waiting for what I hope is to be my final six pack ever. I am shaking, sick as a dog, and terribly depressed. Pardon me if this is way too long but it's helping me to write this out. So, a bit (well, alot) of my story...

    I started drinking much like anyone else, with friends on the weekend in high school at about the age of 15. I'd had a couple occasions prior to that of having a few drinks, and even getting drunk a few times, but one summer night after my 9th grade year the "magic" happened, where I finally put enough of the stuff into me to feel like everything was ok with me and the world. I wasn't really a terribly depressed kid, but I did have a lot of social anxiety (along with general anxiety, I can't stand sitting still or being bored) and worried alot about what others thought of me. Drinking gave me the ability to comfortable in my own skin and take away the anxiety that plagued me in meeting new people, going new places, and doing new things.

    I was always right from the start able to drink as much as or more than my friends, and trouble began pretty early. I started having my first blackouts in 11th grade, though I didn't know it yet and didn't even know what blackouts were. I did a fair amount of drugs in high school as well, mostly pot and hallucinogens, but drinking was always my favorite. Things started to really get problematic after I graduated from high school. My sweetheart dumped me during our "beach week", where all the graduates go to get smashed for a week. I took it really hard, and turned to the bottle for comfort. Drinking became almost nightly, and started to be more hard liquor than beer. That summer is a blur, and I really don't remember much of what I did or said. I was having long blackouts and was acting really bizarrely when I did blackout. People told me I turned into a completely different person. I wasn't party-woofer anymore, I was angry and vilolent quite often and ended up getting my ass kicked several times (I can't fight when I'm drunk lol).

    Fast forwarding through the next 10 years, my drinking and drug use was up and down. I was a musician and my first real career was as an audio engineer and video editor, which I did both in the music industry and in TV. I just so happened to be a hard worker and very good at what I did, so I was able to advance my career pretty well, despite calling out of work quite a bit. The main thing that kept me from being a total screwup was that I could still smoke pot instead of drink every night. During the work week I would go home, smoke a little pot, eat dinner and go to bed. On the weekends I would binge hard with my drinking buddies, but I didn't have a physical addiction to alcohol yet.

    At 22 I was arrested in a bar fight and charged with 2nd Degree Assault on a police officer. It was a female officer who startled me during the melee and I grabbed her shoulder not knowing who she was. I immediately put my hands in the air but by then she had alerted the rest of the cops and they tackled me and threw me in the car. At 24 I got my first DUI coming back from a show I played with my band in Delaware. Both of these charges got me only probation, as I come from a pretty financially well off family and they were always able to hire me good lawyers.

    Shortly before I turned 25 I violated my probation for testing positive for drugs, and moved to South Padre Island, TX with my band to work for a promotions copy that did events for MTV, Girls Gone Wild (the most depraved people I've ever met), E-TV, etc. While this year and a half of my life had some AWESOME times, and I wouldn't take it back, this is also the time period where I truly crossed the line with being able to control my drinking. The nail in the coffin was that I was starting to get paranoid and a racing heart whenever I smoked pot, so I began to drink every night instead.

    My time in Texas ended with a row between me and my band members. We were doing a gig in Dallas and I drank two bottles of Mad Dog 20/20 in the parking lot, blacked out and got into a huge fight with them. They left me at the venue to fend for myself. I finally managed to make my way back to the hotel, where they informed to that I was to take my stuff out of the van and that they were going back to Maryland without me. No amount pleading would persuade them, they were totally sick of my constant drunkennes. I was left in the hotel room with my stuff while they packed up and headed back across the country. My dad flew out, rented a car, and drove me and my stuff back to MD.

    When I got back to MD I started to do really well in my career, strangely enough because my drinking was escalating. I did however, get fired from a few REALLY good jobs due to my drinking and drug use, and I started to become physically dependent on alcohol. My typical day went something like this:

    Wake up feeling absolutely shattered with a terrible hangover. People who don't drink like this would take themselves to the ER if they felt how I did, I was probably at least semi-alcohol poisoned every night. I would (usually, I called out alot) make it to work and say to myself "omg I feel awful, I can't believe I'm gonna have to be here for 8 more hours". For the last two years before my first attempts at getting sober, I would also say to myself every morning that I wasn't going to drink that night. Anyway, so by about noon I've rehydrated a bit, maybe eaten half a sandwich, and started to feel a little better. My mind would also change about that decision I'd made that morning to not drink, and I'd again be at the liquor store on the way home buying my usual amount, which was on most nights a pint of Bacardi and a 12 pack of beer.

    I wasn't eating much anymore, and I looked really emaciated. I was down to 140 lbs (I weigh about 190 now). I was continuing to black out and get violent, and was scared to go out anymore, so I became a solo drinker. No one wanted to hang out with me at the bars or parties anymore anyway because I was just such an drunken a-hole that they didn't want me around. I got a job working for a production house that does work for several large TV networks. It wasn't two weeks before I was fired for calling out and coming to work with alcohol on my breath.

    The day I got fired I walked out of the building, bought a fifth and a 12 pack, and went back to my DC apartment and started drinking at my desk. The last thing I remember was it being about 2pm, and I came to at about 11:30 pm in my car with the cop lights behind me, giving me DUI number 2. I have no recollection of those 9.5 hours at all, but from what a few people told me I had driven to my dealers house about 25 miles outside of DC to buy coke. They said I could barely make out a sentence, and that I didn't recognize people that I had know for 20 years, quite the drunken stupor. After booking me I was released on my own recognizance and took a bus back to my apt. While in the bus I felt the inside pocket of my jacket and the drugs were still there. I can't believe the cops didn't find them, they weren't even hidden at all. I got back to my apt, snorted up all the coke, drank the rest of what I had and passed out. I went on a 3 or 4 day bender after this, and this was really the first time that I realized I had a serious problem. I was 27 years old.

    I tried to stop on my own and found that I couldn't, so I checked into my first rehab. I wasn't too serious about it and was drunk 3 or 4 days after my release. 9 more months of drinking, fired from another job, and checked into another rehab. Over the next 5 years, I was sober the vast majority of the time in AA, with most relapses being only a few days, some as long as a few weeks. At the time I guess you would call me an agnostic, and I didn't believe in the AA program (the 12 steps) at all. I did enjoy the social aspect of AA though, and was at a meeting almost every night. Over the course of time I did have some really bad relapses that scared me though, and I became desperate. I finally started working with sponsors and really diving into the program with 150% effort. I worked the steps three times, and started talking about God alot, even though I didn't truly in my heart believe in God or any higher power. I was trying to do a true "fake it til' you make it", because I didn't know what else to do. After about 5.5 years in AA trying to "get it" I decided that I wasn't going to go back to AA anymore and was going to try to find some alternatives. I finally came to realize that I am an atheist, and that the spiritual approach isn't something that works for me. For anyone that is in AA, please don't take this as a slight against that program or you. Whatever works for you is best, it just isn't the best approach for me.

    However, the one thing that did negatively impact my life from AA was that since I was so immersed in the program, when I left I was totally alone. The only friends I had were in AA, the only social events I went to were AA, etc. So here I am again, isolated like I was when I was drinking, and really starting to get anxious and depressed. I found SMART online and started going to online and f2f meetings, but I had little social interaction outside of that and work. Evenings and weekends were dreadful, I was so lonely and bored. I also found that, at least in my area, SMART had FAR fewer people and meetings that participate in it, and even fewer than that close to my age (I was 34 when I first started going), so I wasn't really meeting people that I would hang out with outside of meetings either. So anyway, yeah, my time since leaving AA has been difficult as well, learning to live without total dependence on the program. While living in Baltimore I got my 3rd DUI. I was finally fired from yet another job just recently, and I decided that was going to leave MD and try to start over here in the Phoenix area with my family.

    I actually had been doing some controlled drinking over the last several months, and was doing pretty well with, having at the most six drinks a night, usually less. But of course, my tolerance built back up and I started up with the Bacardi again, which always ends in disaster sooner or later. This past Friday I drank a fifth on my birthday, blacked out and scared my family. They called the paramedics because they didn't know what else to do. I'm devastated that this happened, I'm so tired of scaring my family and causing them heartache.

    I was up to about 15 drinks a night again, and I have been tapering with beer over the past couple days to keep the withdrawals at bay. I am now 100% convinced that I cannot drink at all, I just cannot control it. I don't get bad every night, but when I do it's disastrous, arrests, family issues, blackouts etc. I am drinking my last six pack tonight and am going to give this another shot starting tomorrow morning. A couple parts of my plan:

    - Get involved with SMART here in my area, go to as many meetings as I can
    - Get back in to the gym and start eating better. When I feel bad physically I'm more prone to relapse
    - Try to branch out more socially, I'm going to try and do some meetup.com sporting event meetups
    - And finally, just GROW THE F UP. The party is over, has been for a long time.

    I feel like I'm at a turning point in my life right now. If I keep drinking things are of course going to get worse and I don't know if I'll be able to bounce back anymore. If I stay the course I can have a great life. I guess the choice is mine, now it's time to start taking the action again. So here I sit, sipping my last six pack and am going to make tomorrow Day 1. Wow, I just previewed this post and it is just entirely too long lol. Thanks for being here all,

    woof
    Happiness is not something you postpone for the future; it is something you design for the present. - Jim Rohn

    You must take personal responsibility. You cannot change the circumstances, the seasons, or the wind, but you can change yourself. That is something you have charge of. - Jim Rohn

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    Welcome Woof! Not long at all and very good read. Your story is all too familiar, and you are doing the right thing by sharing your experiences here. Stay strong my friend, and all I can say is that it will get better after 7 days and much better after 14. I am on day 36 and, although I had some strong cravings today, I focused on other activities and it went away. The cravings are coming less and less and it's easier to curb them once you have some more AF days under your belt. Welcome bro! hang in there! The exercise approach is great too, I am into cycling and the endorphin rush you get, plus the camaraderie of healthy people is a huge plus.
    J
    First attempt June 30 (42 days)

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      woofer;1540105 wrote: MWOers,

      I am now 100% convinced that I cannot drink at all, I just cannot control it. I don't get bad every night, but when I do it's disastrous, arrests, family issues, blackouts etc. I am drinking my last six pack tonight and am going to give this another shot starting tomorrow morning. A couple parts of my plan:

      - Get involved with SMART here in my area, go to as many meetings as I can
      - Get back in to the gym and start eating better. When I feel bad physically I'm more prone to relapse
      - Try to branch out more socially, I'm going to try and do some meetup.com sporting event meetups
      - And finally, just GROW THE F UP. The party is over, has been for a long time.

      I feel like I'm at a turning point in my life right now. If I keep drinking things are of course going to get worse and I don't know if I'll be able to bounce back anymore. If I stay the course I can have a great life. I guess the choice is mine, now it's time to start taking the action again. So here I sit, sipping my last six pack and am going to make tomorrow Day 1. Wow, I just previewed this post and it is just entirely too long lol. Thanks for being here all,

      woof
      Hi Woof - and glad you found us! Thanks for sharing your story.

      This is a great list - you sound really ready to turn the corner. And not "IF" you can stay the course - you CAN stay the course! That's the Alcohol talking .... YOU Woof - CAN STAY THE COURSE!! You are ready to roll!

      I think you've learned a lot about Alcohol addiction from your story you posted. You are correct you can not drink - ever. Me either. Why is it we go through such hell before we finally get that through our thick heads?!! I know I am stubborn. and denial comes in different levels.

      Get some sleep - and over the next week ... lots of water, good food, rest, supplements, lots of time in groups and reading, and stay on here and post as much as you feel you can! It helps to see and confirm your feelings.

      :welcome: to your new life. It's going to be a little fuzzy for a bit - but when the fuzz clears, it's going to be beautiful.
      Put your hands over your heart - and tell yourself that you are going to guard this essence of who you are with everything. Alcohol opens us up to darkness and depression instantly. You choose love today. Guard it by keeping the poison out of your body. It IS poison.



      NF - May 2, 2013 (cig free Jan. 25, 2013)
      AF - July 31, 2013
      :lordhelpme:

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        Hello Woof

        Hiya Woof,
        You have a plan, and great determination, that is what matters, you have stayed sober before so you can do it again.

        Really interested in what you said about AA, I feel I have a lot to thank AA for as over the years I did get a lot from it and think it is a loving, caring organisation. However now I feel, for me that I need my own plan, not the 12 steps. Also a counsellor, not a sponser, I will still go to a few meetings as I do get strength from them.

        I think the main thing is having a plan, having determination, getting support and like you said building up social networks where the emphasis is on things other than alcohol.

        That's it!

        DD
        New life started on 1st May 2014, One day at a time I will work at continuing it forever!

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          Woof, welcome and glad you're here. As the others have said - you can do this!! It sounds like you are determined, have a plan, and are willing to ask for and accept support. That's a great start. Post often and hang in there. We're here for you.
          Everything is going to be amazing

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            Woof welcome here. This is a great place. It has changed my life. I feel that I can really make it this time.
            Not one drink not ever.
            Your whole life is ahead of you. It will be great to really live it instead of drink it away.
            :welcome:
            I have lived in Phoenix before. My daughter was born there. I love South Mountain.
            No matter how far you go or how fast you run, you can't get away from yourself. ....said at an AA meeting. It stuck with me.

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              welcome woofer,thank you for posting such a detailed story of how your drinking escalated,i love your honesty,well all be here for you to support you in getting sober,take care
              I have too much shit to do today and tomorrow to drink:sohappy:

              I'm taking care of the "tomorrow me":thumbsup:
              Drinkin won't help a damn thing! Will only make me sick for DAYS and that ugly, spacey dumb feeling-no thanks!

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                Welcome woofer and good on you for making the decision to get AL out of your life forever. You will never regret it!
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                  Welcome Woof!

                  Thanks for sharing your story, most of us here can totally relate to it. I turned into a nightly blackout drinker also. I finally got scared enough that I realized I HAD to quit, not just slow down or cut back, but QUIT. Me and alcohol don't mix anymore...we hadn't been compatible for a long time, but I keep trying to make it work. Finally I realized that our "relationship" was over. Alcohol did nothing good for me, and it was the reason for everything bad that happened to me. I'm so glad you've found us. Please stick close. You can do this, and we can help!

                  K9
                  :heart:I love my daughter more than alcohol:heart:

                  Believe in yourself. You are stronger than you think.

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                    Thanks for the replies and support everyone! Today is day 1, I just woke up after pretty much rolling around in bed last night. I did manage to get a couple hours of sleep, and though I do feel like crap it's much better than how I felt a couple days ago.

                    Darkest Diamond;1540200 wrote: Really interested in what you said about AA, I feel I have a lot to thank AA for as over the years I did get a lot from it and think it is a loving, caring organisation. However now I feel, for me that I need my own plan, not the 12 steps. Also a counsellor, not a sponser, I will still go to a few meetings as I do get strength from them.
                    Thanks for your post DD. I too have alot to thank for AA, getting involved was the only thing that really helped me stay sober and somewhat sane for those 5.5 years. My only regret is that I wish I had sought out alternatives sooner, but none were presented to me at all, not by counselers, the courts, the rehabs, noone. I was pretty much told that AA was the only way or that I was gonna die, and I think that hurts alot of people as some never will accept the AA way of life. I think that all of the choices need to be presented to people so that they can try them, experience them and find what will be the best plan for them.

                    paulywogg;1540264 wrote: welcome woofer,thank you for posting such a detailed story of how your drinking escalated,i love your honesty,well all be here for you to support you in getting sober,take care
                    Thanks pauly. I read my own story again this morning to remind me of what alcohol does to me. This is the first time I've really tried to put it on "paper", and I think it was cathartic and revealing.

                    K9Lover;1540319 wrote:
                    Me and alcohol don't mix anymore...we hadn't been compatible for a long time, but I keep trying to make it work. Finally I realized that our "relationship" was over. Alcohol did nothing good for me, and it was the reason for everything bad that happened to me.
                    Thanks K9, I read a few of your posts last night in other threads and you seem to be really caring and dedicated to having a better life.

                    One thing that scares me is that AL never stopped "working". It always made me feel better temporarily but at a huge cost. Many a night I have spent agonizing over whether to drink or not, knowing that comfort is just around the corner at the store. I truly wish that the effects of AL just didn't make me feel good at all, maybe I'll try going on Antabuse again, at least for a little while. What it didn't work as was a functional life coping strategy, lol. In SMART recovery I've done a very thorough CBA (Cost-Benefit Analysis), and I need to review that more and USE it to make better decisions.

                    I'm very depressed this morning, which is to be expected so I'm not freaking out. Thanks again for your time and support all, and here's to day 1! *toasts with coffee*

                    woof
                    Happiness is not something you postpone for the future; it is something you design for the present. - Jim Rohn

                    You must take personal responsibility. You cannot change the circumstances, the seasons, or the wind, but you can change yourself. That is something you have charge of. - Jim Rohn

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                      Woof sorry you're feeling depressed. Try to think in terms of the benefits, the positives. Do you have plans for keeping busy today? Tonight?
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                        I'm feeling a little better this afternoon. I'm staying quite busy today actually, trying to get some of my legal issues handled. I'm trying to get my probation and interlock transferred to AZ and no one seems to want to make this easy for me (duh). All of these legal hoops I have to jump through are just another example of what drinking does to me. Hope everyone's having a lovely day!
                        Happiness is not something you postpone for the future; it is something you design for the present. - Jim Rohn

                        You must take personal responsibility. You cannot change the circumstances, the seasons, or the wind, but you can change yourself. That is something you have charge of. - Jim Rohn

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                          hi Woofer. I just read your story and I am very glad you have joined us. I am interested in SMART recovery too, but the groups here are few and far between. From what I have seen online it looks as though it would fit well with my own approach. Glad your feeling a bit better this afternoon, everything feels better without AL, even paperwork! See you in the Nest buddy.
                          Whatever you can do or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it! ~ Goethe

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                            Hey Woofer hope you are sleeping sound tonight. That first night can be a tough one.

                            You might want to use this thread as a journal for yourself. Having posted your story here will give you a ref. point you to keep you reminded always - why you can't drink.

                            Best to you on this new day
                            Put your hands over your heart - and tell yourself that you are going to guard this essence of who you are with everything. Alcohol opens us up to darkness and depression instantly. You choose love today. Guard it by keeping the poison out of your body. It IS poison.



                            NF - May 2, 2013 (cig free Jan. 25, 2013)
                            AF - July 31, 2013
                            :lordhelpme:

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                              No...sleep...til Brooklyn! 6:15am and my body feels exhausted but I'm still twitching and I don't see sleep happening anytime soon. I don't know what the hell happened to all my Ambien but somehow over the last drunken few weeks I managed to eat or lose 30 pills in 2 weeks. I might concoct a fib to try and get one of my refills early. This sucks
                              Happiness is not something you postpone for the future; it is something you design for the present. - Jim Rohn

                              You must take personal responsibility. You cannot change the circumstances, the seasons, or the wind, but you can change yourself. That is something you have charge of. - Jim Rohn

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