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    Cravings

    "Are like stray cats, if you feed them they keep coming back"

    Glad to say I have no cravings at the moment, thankfully, but I am vigilant and will be on my guard, this quote makes a lot of sense to me!
    New life started on 1st May 2014, One day at a time I will work at continuing it forever!

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    Not a big fan of stray cats or cravings.
    No matter how far you go or how fast you run, you can't get away from yourself. ....said at an AA meeting. It stuck with me.

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      #3
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      So True!
      Miley

      "The moment you are ready to quit is usually the moment right before a miracle happens..don't give up"
      [COLOR=Magenta]Joyfully AF Since 1/22/14

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        Cravings are one thing. What about when a person makes a willful decision to drink? What is that all about? Sorry if I'm hijacking! I wonder how it is that our sensible brain can push away a craving but a seemingly rational person can convince themselves that they can manage a drink after being AF.
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          3June2013;1540248 wrote: Cravings are one thing. What about when a person makes a willful decision to drink? What is that all about? Sorry if I'm hijacking! I wonder how it is that our sensible brain can push away a craving but a seemingly rational person can convince themselves that they can manage a drink after being AF.
          Hi, 3June

          I think humans have an enormous capacity to forget or at least minimize negative experiences. In general, this is probably a good thing . BUT -- when it comes to a highly addictive substance and different parts of the brain not being fully integrated and healthy -- it can lead to what from the outside looks like a completely irrational choice but quite logical from the inside.

          I think that is why staying connected in a community such as this is critical - we have to somehow not let the memories of where we've been be softened by time.

          Sound reasonable??? NS

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            #6
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            Can relate to that feeling tonight N.S, will be mindful not to let thoughts of old times run away with me.

            Time for reflection I think.

            Thanks

            Tink
            :wings::

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              3June2013;1540248 wrote: Cravings are one thing. What about when a person makes a willful decision to drink? What is that all about? Sorry if I'm hijacking! I wonder how it is that our sensible brain can push away a craving but a seemingly rational person can convince themselves that they can manage a drink after being AF.
              I really think it's a craving/trigger in disguise. No logical, rational person can freely decide to drink when they KNOW they have a problem. The key might be catching the "thought" when it enters the mind - and call it out. A crave/trigger can be mental, physical or emotional. Anything that causes you to take the first drink is a crave/trigger. Another key is PRE identify the things that cause you to crave or trigger you to drink. For someone who DECIDES to drink - they need to see what the mood was ... happy, sad, mad, in a celebration mood, etc. THAT becomes the trigger.

              Just my thoughts - for only someone who is TRULY mentally ill will drink when they know it's a problem. If they were deathly allergic to carrots, they would NEVER willingly eat carrots. So in the Alcoholic mind - it CAN'T be a logical choice. EVER.
              Put your hands over your heart - and tell yourself that you are going to guard this essence of who you are with everything. Alcohol opens us up to darkness and depression instantly. You choose love today. Guard it by keeping the poison out of your body. It IS poison.



              NF - May 2, 2013 (cig free Jan. 25, 2013)
              AF - July 31, 2013
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                3June2013;1540248 wrote: Cravings are one thing. What about when a person makes a willful decision to drink? What is that all about? Sorry if I'm hijacking! I wonder how it is that our sensible brain can push away a craving but a seemingly rational person can convince themselves that they can manage a drink after being AF.
                I've been thinking about this some more. It seems it is a natural human tendency to think we are different than others and that bad things aren't going to happen to us and that somehow, the "rules" don't apply to us. This is common among teenagers and I'm starting to think - for recovering addicts, as well, who think, "These other people aren't as strong as I am, after all this time sober, I will be able to control my drinking." I think they really believe it.

                It crosses my mind sometimes that I could drink socially now. What reminds me that I'm no different than all the people here who have thought that, tried, and failed is the memory of how shocked and relieved I was to find MWO, read the stories, and realize that I was not the only outwardly normal, functioning, apparently healthy person who was sneaking around with an uncontrollable drinking problem. I was so relieved that I was not the only one - that there were other people who struggled just like I did and shared my shame and fear.

                There is no reason to think I'm different or somehow special and protected from relapse now - that that only happens to "other people". But I think it would be very easy (and maybe even normal) to forget so, like I wrote before, I think we have to actively protect our sobriety.

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                  How are you doing, DD? Hope you aren't paying any attention to those stray cats !
                  Have a good weekend, NS

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                    NoSugar;1540638 wrote: I've been thinking about this some more. It seems it is a natural human tendency to think we are different than others and that bad things aren't going to happen to us and that somehow, the "rules" don't apply to us. This is common among teenagers and I'm starting to think - for recovering addicts, as well, who think, "These other people aren't as strong as I am, after all this time sober, I will be able to control my drinking." I think they really believe it.

                    It crosses my mind sometimes that I could drink socially now. What reminds me that I'm no different than all the people here who have thought that, tried, and failed is the memory of how shocked and relieved I was to find MWO, read the stories, and realize that I was not the only outwardly normal, functioning, apparently healthy person who was sneaking around with an uncontrollable drinking problem. I was so relieved that I was not the only one - that there were other people who struggled just like I did and shared my shame and fear.

                    There is no reason to think I'm different or somehow special and protected from relapse now - that that only happens to "other people". But I think it would be very easy (and maybe even normal) to forget so, like I wrote before, I think we have to actively protect our sobriety.
                    I love this post NS, love it! We have many enemies and for me, complacency and that feeling of 'it won't happen to me' have been huge in the past. I agree with you also about finding MWO and how enlightening it is to read other people's stories and realise that for me, moderation cannot ever be possible. Thank you NS. Your posts are always thoughtful and enlightening.
                    Whatever you can do or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it! ~ Goethe

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