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    Not sure if I should do this ... but here it goes

    Hello everyone and thank you again for all of your support I dont really know what Im going to write so lets see where it goes.


    When I first found MWO I was greeted with what I call unconditional love and friendship. I was not actually looking to quit drinking Johnny on the Spot like I did. But when I started reading more and more before I knew it I was on the AF wagon. Probably the best thing thats happened in my life for a very long time.

    Many of you told me that you were looking forward to "getting to know me". After a short time I realized that I was ready to get to know me as well. So Im willing to take this journey together if you are. To do this I feel the need to really open up to you and of course myself so we all are on the same page. My intention is that by the time this read is over we will have a better understanding of who I am supposed to be. So if your still willing then lets go...

    Quick childhood backround if I may : I was a very happy child. Loving parents (Hippies of the 60s if that helps). Fastest in school. A gymnast and an all around what you could call a Decatholon Kid. Sporting a good personality, well established moral fiber and character self esteem. ( 10/10 on the Hunk-O-Meter tee hee ). An all around good guy...Never had a fight in my life kinda nature. Loved myself and my life as a child all the way up through graduation. Ok...moving on to the good stuff..

    It all started way back when at the age of 3 there happened to be...Wait no...it might have been 19 come to think of it (damn memory loss). Ok..at 19 Hurricane Hugo struck the Caribbean. My uncle had a boat repair shop on the Island of St. Thomas at the time. Much to his suprise there was for some reason a boom in business. Is a matter of fact so much that he called my mom and asked if we (my brother,friends and myself) would like to fly to the island and work on boats. I was at the time classing for robotics and electronics but dropped out for the opportunity at hand. Next thing you know im in St. Thomas living on board one of the (5) 60' yachts that my uncle had been maintaining for someone. I learned the trade of fiberglass repair and boat building/restoration in short order. Not only that but our Island Family all got our own damaged boats that we fixed. Mine was a 30' Catalina with no motor on it lol. So on July 4,1990 I set sail and eventually ended up in Granada. Living the dream at 19 is what I used to tell others. I got into spirituality heavy at that point. Learning and reading books such as Edger Casey, Kahlil Gibran, Richard Bach, KJV of the Bible and many others. Having established a deeper understanding of myself I took off on my own to conquer the world. Ups and downs and place to place I found myself being nutured by Life itself. So lets just cut to the chase and say that at one point I KNEW Myself at any given moment. Sure changing from day to day as I grew...but never lost track of who I was.

    Crowd: "Ok OK...we All get that life was all great and grand for you Dave..Goody goods for you ! So Can we Please move on here...Im getting depressed !". Yes..just establishing for context here .. chill out guys.

    Lets just FF this to some point in time Something Changed and not for the best.

    Her name was Love. Yes you heard that right folks..Love! Now before you go closing the window or hitting that backpage button hear me out. I had already had the love for all people (agape love?) .. but I had found Eros Love. I had found a kind of love that can only be found between two souls. DEEP deep love. With it came a stronger empathy that what I had before ( I have always been empathic with others...almost to the point that I could not distiquish my own feelings from those of others ). After a while with her we became almost tied spiritually. I know this is going to sound crazy to some...but we could "Feel" each other over probably any distance apart. We knew what each other was feeling. ( Now here it is right here folks !!! I think this is where I need to take a look ).

    Warning .. next paragraph might be a tear jerker !

    So for whatever reason we got Too close ? Too entagled in each others feelings and emotions that we could not define or distinguish our own true Selves. At some point, like a Super Nova, we got so close that everything started to explode away. ( Im not sure if thats a good analogy but its gonna have to do ). We got torn apart basically. The Pain of our two souls being remotely separated could not be put into words so I will not even try ( some of you know what I am talking about and some of you think you know what Im talking about...For those that actually Know I am so so sorry and just know that there is Someone out there that Understands :h ) Lets take a little break right now and pull ourselves together ok

    I Knew that there was no way that I could ever Ever get that close again to anyone. I lost a part of myself and she did too.

    And so far I never have.

    But something changed within my Empathy department. It was shut down due to construction there for a few years. But came back stronger than before. ( I think this is a key part for my AL using ) I was starting to find my center again..the more I found my center the stronger the Empathy took hold. Then almost at an instant..as if a beam of tightly focused light in a dark void was encompassing me. Kinda like a stage light tightly focused me. I FOUND Center again! Again this is going to sound a bit off the hook and I hope none of you call up my local coo-coo wagon but I could peer into the souls of others. Indeed I could look right through the Facade and the armor and the Front that others had tried to shield themselves from the outside world. I didnt even have to try. Actually it wasnt like "Looking Through" it was as if those shells were not even there. I saw the True Light and Love of anyone that I looked at or even thought about. Some people (perfect strangers) would be able to tell what was going on and felt Very uncomfortable. Others were oblivious.

    Thats when I started Doping myself intentionally to be quite honest with you guys. No no.. I didnt have little voices inside my head lol.

    Warning: might be another tear jerker

    I dont know why..possibly that I could not handle being that spiritually connected with others because of my past ? I had not yet learned how to totally separate/block/pass through others emotions ? ..But IMO I started drinking AL to Numb or Block out those feelings.
    I never lost my core. I was still the person I was deep inside. Its that I became less and less involved with my Soul I think. Slowly I began to become a duality. I started putting up the fronts and the facades and eventually the the Dave of the past started to crust over. Not totally mind you...but enough. .. want to take a quick break again ? I could use one.

    And thats were I have been for the past 11 years or so.

    Now FF again to the NOW !

    I dont want to bore you with all the details of my current life but lets assume that its OVER. Fate ? God? Myself trying to break through? Who knows really. I dont really care Why it happened but IT IS Happening NOW !!

    Conclusion:
    I think for me is its not about fighting to get AL Out of my life .. its more like I am trying to fight Against the Emergence of DAVE getting back INTO my life.
    AL and all the other things/thoughts/emotions that manifested from it was a part of DAVE. So All of those things are going to have to go.. ALL of them!

    This is more than becoming AF for Me. Its a Major life changing event that is unfolding that I have been fighting against for too long now...all out of fear. AF is only one Result that consequently happens to be a Part of this event.

    I guess why I am here is to get help removing AL before its removed from me by force in turn making the process much more difficult.

    I really do believe divine intervention is at play here at MWO. The profoundness for me is mind boggling that how easy it is for just a few paragraphs or sentences or even right down to a few words could have an extraordinary Life Altering impact on another. *snif snif*

    I could have Never gotten even close to this far at this point in my life without you. Even those that were here years ago that left their legacy of encouragement is in play here. They never even knew that one day..years away..that a lost soul would be saved because of them. Its a very Spiritual Idea that I think is becoming harder and harder to find.

    :h Thank you for being here for me..listening..giving me strength..and hope. I really do love all of you from the bottom of my heart. :h

    Dave.

    PS. I dont think this thread was ever intended on being submitted...but what the hell..if there is one just person,that at least enjoys a good story from time to time,then I guess its worth it.
    Progress lies not in enhancing what is, but in advancing toward what will be. - Khalil Gabran
    AF: 9-10-2013

    #2
    Not sure if I should do this ... but here it goes

    gambler;1556102 wrote: The Pain of our two souls being remotely separated could not be put into words so I will not even try ( some of you know what I am talking about and some of you think you know what Im talking about...For those that actually Know I am so so sorry and just know that there is Someone out there that Understands :h )
    Let me wipe my tears and then I will respond.

    Sniff* Yes, I KNOW...I mean KNOW. It's been 8 years and I still feel it. Wait...are those guys in the white coats headed this way?

    No seriously, I do understand. I haven't been with anyone since my Nova imploded.

    Whew....that was quite a read. I'm glad to finally know you Dave!
    :heart:I love my daughter more than alcohol:heart:

    Believe in yourself. You are stronger than you think.

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      #3
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      Dave, what a journey you are having! Thank you for sharing part of yourself with us. If you haven't run across it, you should read Running Courage's journey on 'Stella (Chook) I stole your booze'. I'll bump it up for you. He details what has happened to him over the past 9 months (I think that's where he is now). To say this is a journey of self discovery would be the understatement of the year! There's a lot more to quitting drinking than just quitting drinking!
      As I said to him one time: You, meet you!!!! Byrdie
      All you gotta do, is get thru this day. AF 1/20/2011
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        #4
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        Dave thanks for opening up that way, it's risky, yes, but it's also cathartic no? I think many of us drink/drank to numb. When we are in a state of altered consciousness (I used a lot more than AL in my day - might have known your parents as I too was a hippie) we can basically ignore our pain, our emotions, our inner self.

        Quitting AL means re-connecting with our real selves. Scary, but important work.

        My son is 25 and I tell him all the time that reflection is so important. Learning from our past, noticing patterns in our lives, making change when necessary or when we desire change, these are mature actions. Opening up wounds is painful, but we only open them when we're ready to heal.

        I hope you'll continue to reflect, knowing ourselves is key to learning how to be happy, I think.
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          #5
          Not sure if I should do this ... but here it goes

          gambler;1556102 wrote:
          Conclusion:
          I think for me is its not about fighting to get AL Out of my life .. its more like I am trying to fight Against the Emergence of DAVE getting back INTO my life.
          AL and all the other things/thoughts/emotions that AL brought into my life never was a part of DAVE. So All of those things are going to have to go.. ALL of them!
          I was still not sure sure, how similar we exactly are, Dave. But you basically told my story. I was fighting the whole last night, trying to understand why am I doing this and why am I not out partying. Your conclusion did it - you put my mind into words so precisely that it?s scary.

          I was afraid that I might slip tonight, because I was losing the faith, so to speak. You know, feeling relatively good, thinking all the time that couple of drinks shouldn?t be a problem and so on. But after reading this thread, I am aiming for 100 days at least.

          Thanks, Dave. Let?s keep on trucking as you would say

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            #6
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            It is most DEFINATELY worth it Dear Dave...and I do understand as well..I went Super Nova around the same as you...now I'm 50 and never ever went back there...just slowly slipped away really...
            I actually don't talk about it so I am completely in awe that you have told your story. :wavin:
            Also I have link here to a wonderful, little known film I think you would appreciate:
            the gift - Google Search

            Your gift as a 'seer' reminded me of this. As. Buddhist, I have met people with life conditions that seem indestructible and almost...well, huge...is my best description if that makes sense.

            I'm glad you are meeting you. I have always though that of all the people I have met, I'm the one person I've never gotten to know or understood or really wanted to.

            With AL out of the picture , that's all changing.
            Trite But True
            Please stay close. We need you here. :l
            On My Own Way Out Since May 20, 2012
            *If you think poorly of yourself, you can fail with a clear conscience.
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              #7
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              It's your story Dave, but you bring up a lot of interesting things that have also affected the rest of us. Thanks for sharing such a thought provoking post.
              Whatever you can do or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it! ~ Goethe

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                #8
                Not sure if I should do this ... but here it goes

                I have read your post a coupe of times and each time I find another layer. Thank you for sharing your story. Best to you on your new journey.

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                  #9
                  Not sure if I should do this ... but here it goes

                  K9Lover;1556106 wrote: Sniff* Yes, I KNOW...I mean KNOW. It's been 8 years and I still feel it. Wait...are those guys in the white coats headed this way?
                  I hesitated putting that in there. Whenever I told that story to someone else I would either get that he's looney look.. or Oh yea I understand. But I could tell that they did NOT understand Truely. I Just knew there were others out there that I could connect with on this. BTW .. who ever is in your avatar is kinda cute if you dont mind me saying

                  Byrdlady;1556109 wrote: Dave, what a journey you are having! Thank you for sharing part of yourself with us. Its a wild ride Ill tell you that much ! Ill try to check out that book.

                  3June2013;1556112 wrote: Dave thanks for opening up that way, it's risky, yes, but it's also cathartic no?
                  Very cathartic ! Almost like taking a good...um..well you know what I mean. It was a purging.

                  Fisher80;1556178 wrote: I was still not sure sure, how similar we exactly are, Dave. But you basically told my story. I was fighting the whole last night, trying to understand why am I doing this and why am I not out partying. Your conclusion did it - you put my mind into words so precisely that it?s scary.

                  I was afraid that I might slip tonight, because I was losing the faith, so to speak. You know, feeling relatively good, thinking all the time that couple of drinks shouldn?t be a problem and so on. But after reading this thread, I am aiming for 100 days at least.

                  Thanks, Dave. Let?s keep on trucking as you would say
                  Fisher man. Our connection is getting stronger by the day! The stronger the connection the more we help each other in Tandem
                  . Hmm.. how do I put this .. Its like we have a Shared pool of energy/strength from which we both Draw from OR Deposit. I dont know If you understand but I get the feeling that you know Exactly what Im talking about in your heart of Hearts. I know
                  you can feel it. And thats what its about. Im picking up what your throwing down on the 100 day thing. I think it might be even better than that bro

                  Kradle123;1556180 wrote:
                  It is most DEFINATELY worth it Dear Dave...I'm glad you are meeting you.
                  Please stay close. We need you here. :l
                  Thank you Kradle. Its akin to a bird coming out its shell and taking flight. I will try to watch The Gift ( it is on netflix coincedently ) but I normally dont get into those kinds of movies ( I dont really watch TV that often .. dont even have cable lol ).

                  Oh yea.. I have something for you.. its a big box of :h . But You have to open it. Its there waiting.

                  broken halo;1556206 wrote:
                  It's your story Dave, but you bring up a lot of interesting things that have also affected the rest of us. Thanks for sharing such a thought provoking post.
                  Thank you Halo. Unfortunately its not complete because I had to go.You see I just sit down and start writing when I feel the need. I dont worry about trying to keep out un-related thoughts because I go back and try to put things in order.. or even delete something that got in there by a passing thought. If that makes sense. I Didnt even make a Title for this thread until I had to go ( Hence the name of the current title .. it was not complete and I was afraid of how it may come across). I will have to now go back and edit out the passing thoughts to make some things more clear.

                  halfway content;1556310 wrote:
                  I have read your post a coupe of times and each time I find another layer. Thank you for sharing your story. Best to you on your new journey.
                  Thank you halfway. Should have seen it as it was being written in real time ... Holy Moley !
                  Progress lies not in enhancing what is, but in advancing toward what will be. - Khalil Gabran
                  AF: 9-10-2013

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                    #10
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                    [QUOTE=gambler;1556102]

                    Many of you told me that you were looking forward to "getting to know me". After a short time I realized that I was ready to get to know me as well. So Im willing to take this journey together if you are. To do this I feel the need to really open up to you and of course myself so we all are on the same page. My intention is that by the time this read is over we will have a better understanding of who I am supposed to be. So if your still willing then lets go...

                    Ive been feeling like this as well. I feel like alcohol has robbed me of the person that i was supposed to be. I need to become the person i was designed to be without al destroying everything on the inside and out. I had a taste of being that person when i managed seven days af.... it was wonderful. I know it sounds very silly but i have an image of myself in my head that i aspire to. In this image i am jogging down a nice country lane near to where i live. My head is clear, i am enjoying myself and i am physically fit and healthy. This me doesn't smoke or drink and isn't ashamed. This me is proud and happy.......... and just for the hell of it i look damn hot too:H I would like to get to know this me very much

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                      #11
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                      Thanks for posting your story Dave!
                      I'll bet everyone can relate, in one way or another.

                      Drinking to numb emotional pain aka self-medicating is a common theme around MWO. That is exactly what I did as well.
                      Giving AL the boot & finding new & healthier ways to deal with emotions & feelings is the only way
                      What we are doing is giving ourselves permission to grow up & feel our feelings for what they are

                      Keep going, you're doing great

                      Lav
                      AF since 03/26/09
                      NF since 05/19/09
                      Success comes one day at a time :thumbs:

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