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    I was hesitant to post this at first because it may discourge my fellow newbies but after experinecing symptoms of PAWS, ( most recently over the last few days) I did some research becuase I was super discourged at first thinking, "what a minute, I went through withdrawl and Im supposed to feel better right, but I feel like crap!" I've learned that PAWS Symptoms can sometimes come and go with wave-like reoccurrences or fluctuations in severity of symptoms and is a major cause of relapse. Even more of a bummer is that PAWs an last for two years. Further, Most people experience some post-acute withdrawal symptoms. When we first quit withdrawal is different from one person to the next; however, in post-acute withdrawal most people have the same symptoms. My symptoms are extreme fatigue, bad headaches, trouble concentrating, a really down attitude and trouble sleeping.

    The web site Addictions and Recovery.org " offered a really good primer on how to survive Post-Acute Withdrawal
    • Be patient. You can't hurry recovery. But you can get through it one day at a time. If you resent post-acute withdrawal, or try to bulldoze your way through it, you will become exhausted. And when you're exhausted you will think of using to escape.
    • Post-acute withdrawal symptoms are a sign that your brain is recovering. Therefore don't resent them. But remember, even after one year, you are still only half way there.
    • Go with the flow. Withdrawal symptoms are uncomfortable. But the more you resent them the worse they'll seem. You'll have lots of good days over the next two years. Enjoy them. You'll also have lots of bad days. On those days, don't try to do too much. Take care of yourself, focus on your recovery, and you'll get through this.
    • Practice self-care. Give yourself lots of little breaks over the next two years. Tell yourself "what I am doing is enough." Be good to yourself. That is what most addicts can't do, and that's what you must learn in recovery. Recovery is the opposite of addiction.Sometimes you'll have little energy or enthusiasm for anything. Understand this and don't over book your life. Give yourself permission to focus on your recovery.Post-acute withdrawal can be a trigger for relapse. You'll go for weeks without any withdrawal symptoms, and then one day you'll wake up and your withdrawal will hit you like a ton of bricks. You'll have slept badly. You'll be in a bad mood. Your energy will be low. And if you're not prepared for it, if you think that post-acute withdrawal only lasts for a few months, or if you think that you'll be different and it won't be as bad for you, then you'll get caught off guard. But if you know what to expect you can do this.Being able to relax will help you through post-acute withdrawal. When you're tense you tend to dwell on your symptoms and make them worse. When you're relaxed it's easier to not get caught up in them. You aren't as triggered by your symptoms which means you're less likely to relapse.Remember, every relapse, no matter how small undoes the gains your brain has made during recovery. Without abstinence everything will fall apart. With abstinence everything is possible. (Reference: www.AddictionsAndRecovery.org)"
    Happiness is neither virtue nor pleasure nor this thing nor that but simply growth, We are happy when we are growing.

    William Butler Yeats

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    Interesting TJ. Maybe this is what Ican was referring to the other day as feeling blah. I feel it too from time to time, but push through it which according to this, is not the best course.

    Thanks for sharing this. Helps to shed more light on what's happening and what's yet to come.

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      #3
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      Thanks for sharing this..really good info..explains my blah days...
      Dottie
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        Thanks for sharing, this is very insightful.
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          #5
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          Thank you for starting this thread, TJAF. I went to the website and was fascinated to read about the stages of relapses. Really got me thinking about the importance of healthy eating, reaching out to others when I am tempted, and, in general, taking better care of myself. Thanks!
          Free at Last
          "What you seek is seeking you." -- Rumi

          Highly recommend this video
          http://www.ted.com/talks/brene_brown_on_vulnerability.html

          July 19, 2013 -- the beginning of being Free at Last

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            #6
            Post Acute Withdrawl Symptom

            TJAF;1563907 wrote: I was hesitant to post this at first because it may discourge my fellow newbies but after experinecing symptoms of PAWS, ( most recently over the last few days) I did some research becuase I was super discourged at first thinking, "what a minute, I went through withdrawl and Im supposed to feel better right, but I feel like crap!" I've learned that PAWS Symptoms can sometimes come and go with wave-like reoccurrences or fluctuations in severity of symptoms and is a major cause of relapse. Even more of a bummer is that PAWs an last for two years. Further, Most people experience some post-acute withdrawal symptoms. When we first quit withdrawal is different from one person to the next; however, in post-acute withdrawal most people have the same symptoms. My symptoms are extreme fatigue, bad headaches, trouble concentrating, a really down attitude and trouble sleeping.

            The web site Addictions and Recovery.org " offered a really good primer on how to survive Post-Acute Withdrawal
            • Be patient. You can't hurry recovery. But you can get through it one day at a time. If you resent post-acute withdrawal, or try to bulldoze your way through it, you will become exhausted. And when you're exhausted you will think of using to escape.
            • Post-acute withdrawal symptoms are a sign that your brain is recovering. Therefore don't resent them. But remember, even after one year, you are still only half way there.
            • Go with the flow. Withdrawal symptoms are uncomfortable. But the more you resent them the worse they'll seem. You'll have lots of good days over the next two years. Enjoy them. You'll also have lots of bad days. On those days, don't try to do too much. Take care of yourself, focus on your recovery, and you'll get through this.
            • Practice self-care. Give yourself lots of little breaks over the next two years
            • . Tell yourself "what I am doing is enough." Be good to yourself. That is what most addicts can't do, and that's what you must learn in recovery. Recovery is the opposite of addiction.Sometimes you'll have little energy or enthusiasm for anything. Understand this and don't over book your life. Give yourself permission to focus on your recovery.Post-acute withdrawal can be a trigger for relapse. You'll go for weeks without any withdrawal symptoms, and then one day you'll wake up and your withdrawal will hit you like a ton of bricks. You'll have slept badly. You'll be in a bad mood. Your energy will be low. And if you're not prepared for it, if you think that post-acute withdrawal only lasts for a few months, or if you think that you'll be different and it won't be as bad for you, then you'll get caught off guard
            • . But if you know what to expect you can do this.Being able to relax will help you through post-acute withdrawal. When you're tense you tend to dwell on your symptoms and make them worse. When you're relaxed it's easier to not get caught up in them. You aren't as triggered by your symptoms which means you're less likely to relapse.Remember, every relapse, no matter how small undoes the gains your brain has made during recovery. Without abstinence everything will fall apart. With abstinence everything is possible. (Reference: www.AddictionsAndRecovery.org)"
            O man. At 2 weeks I thought I should have been feeling better and at 2 months, I wanted to be "cured". I didn't even consider 2 YEARS!

            I also read some parts of the link (thanks!). This is a reminder not to be so impatient with myself, I guess.

            An MWO friend pointed out to me that I seem to want a Perfect Recovery -- which is just taking me right back where I started.

            Thanks for posting this, TJAF. [In my head I think Toujours (Always) AF when I read your screenname. Is that right? ]

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              #7
              Post Acute Withdrawl Symptom

              Wait, I'm actually on Day 7 today. Does this mean I will wake up one day and go through physical withdrawals again?!?

              I don't know if I can do this... This week has been so hard already... I don't want to go back to the 1 liter of vodka a day habit again...

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                #8
                Post Acute Withdrawl Symptom

                TJAF;1563907 wrote: I was hesitant to post this at first because it may discourge my fellow newbies but after experinecing symptoms of PAWS, ( most recently over the last few days) I did some research becuase I was super discourged at first thinking, "what a minute, I went through withdrawl and Im supposed to feel better right, but I feel like crap!" I've learned that PAWS Symptoms can sometimes come and go with wave-like reoccurrences or fluctuations in severity of symptoms and is a major cause of relapse. Even more of a bummer is that PAWs an last for two years. Further, Most people experience some post-acute withdrawal symptoms. When we first quit withdrawal is different from one person to the next; however, in post-acute withdrawal most people have the same symptoms. My symptoms are extreme fatigue, bad headaches, trouble concentrating, a really down attitude and trouble sleeping.

                The web site Addictions and Recovery.org " offered a really good primer on how to survive Post-Acute Withdrawal
                • Be patient. You can't hurry recovery. But you can get through it one day at a time. If you resent post-acute withdrawal, or try to bulldoze your way through it, you will become exhausted. And when you're exhausted you will think of using to escape.
                • Post-acute withdrawal symptoms are a sign that your brain is recovering. Therefore don't resent them. But remember, even after one year, you are still only half way there.
                • Go with the flow. Withdrawal symptoms are uncomfortable. But the more you resent them the worse they'll seem. You'll have lots of good days over the next two years. Enjoy them. You'll also have lots of bad days. On those days, don't try to do too much. Take care of yourself, focus on your recovery, and you'll get through this.
                • Practice self-care. Give yourself lots of little breaks over the next two years. Tell yourself "what I am doing is enough." Be good to yourself. That is what most addicts can't do, and that's what you must learn in recovery. Recovery is the opposite of addiction.Sometimes you'll have little energy or enthusiasm for anything. Understand this and don't over book your life. Give yourself permission to focus on your recovery.Post-acute withdrawal can be a trigger for relapse. You'll go for weeks without any withdrawal symptoms, and then one day you'll wake up and your withdrawal will hit you like a ton of bricks. You'll have slept badly. You'll be in a bad mood. Your energy will be low. And if you're not prepared for it, if you think that post-acute withdrawal only lasts for a few months, or if you think that you'll be different and it won't be as bad for you, then you'll get caught off guard. But if you know what to expect you can do this.Being able to relax will help you through post-acute withdrawal. When you're tense you tend to dwell on your symptoms and make them worse. When you're relaxed it's easier to not get caught up in them. You aren't as triggered by your symptoms which means you're less likely to relapse.Remember, every relapse, no matter how small undoes the gains your brain has made during recovery. Without abstinence everything will fall apart. With abstinence everything is possible. (Reference: www.AddictionsAndRecovery.org)"
                i have to agree with this withdrawals do re occur .....but we have to work out how to manage them....have a plan ready that will work
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                  #9
                  Post Acute Withdrawl Symptom

                  This sounds like how I have been feeling the past couple of weeks. It explains a lot and understanding is the key.
                  Thank you for this info.
                  No matter how far you go or how fast you run, you can't get away from yourself. ....said at an AA meeting. It stuck with me.

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                    #10
                    Post Acute Withdrawl Symptom

                    Can you see it this way? There is a wall infront of you, and you try to push it over, run it down kick it yell at it etc... it will just annoy the hell out of you. That wall is there and it ain't moving. So if you accept the wall being there, you can stand next to it and it becomes neutral not good or bad, just there. But then you lean on it, it actually holds you up and serves you a purpose.

                    Now knowing the thought of drinking will be there and it is normal and accept it. The thought looses its power over us.
                    What you resist persits

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                      #11
                      Post Acute Withdrawl Symptom

                      JRons13;1564120 wrote: Wait, I'm actually on Day 7 today. Does this mean I will wake up one day and go through physical withdrawals again?!?

                      I don't know if I can do this... This week has been so hard already... I don't want to go back to the 1 liter of vodka a day habit again...
                      This is why I was afraid to post this. It seems discouraging but The reality in my mind is that its better to understand what's in front of us then to deny the downside of recovery. Look, it took many of us years to get to this point. Although two years is the average for our brains to desire itself as time goes on the good days will far outweigh the bad. Keep the faith.
                      Happiness is neither virtue nor pleasure nor this thing nor that but simply growth, We are happy when we are growing.

                      William Butler Yeats

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                        #12
                        Post Acute Withdrawl Symptom

                        NoSugar;1564053 wrote: O man. At 2 weeks I thought I should have been feeling better and at 2 months, I wanted to be "cured". I didn't even consider 2 YEARS!

                        I also read some parts of the link (thanks!). This is a reminder not to be so impatient with myself, I guess.

                        An MWO friend pointed out to me that I seem to want a Perfect Recovery -- which is just taking me right back where I started.

                        Thanks for posting this, TJAF. [In my head I think Toujours (Always) AF when I read your screenname. Is that right? ]
                        No TJ is my initials but I love the Toujours monikor.
                        Happiness is neither virtue nor pleasure nor this thing nor that but simply growth, We are happy when we are growing.

                        William Butler Yeats

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                          #13
                          Post Acute Withdrawl Symptom

                          Dear TJAF,
                          Again, a huge thank you for posting this. I think knowledge is power, and the website helped me recognize some symptoms that could lead to a relapse. We are going to have these thoughts for alcohol, and sometimes some withdrawl symptoms for some time. Better to be aware of it. Thank you!
                          Free at Last
                          "What you seek is seeking you." -- Rumi

                          Highly recommend this video
                          http://www.ted.com/talks/brene_brown_on_vulnerability.html

                          July 19, 2013 -- the beginning of being Free at Last

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                            #14
                            Post Acute Withdrawl Symptom

                            TJAF;1564256 wrote: This is why I was afraid to post this. It seems discouraging but The reality in my mind is that its better to understand what's in front of us then to deny the downside of recovery. Look, it took many of us years to get to this point. Although two years is the average for our brains to desire itself as time goes on the good days will far outweigh the bad. Keep the faith.
                            Exactly forewarned is forearmed.

                            I wish I'd seen this when I was about a year AF because I'll admit I was floundering. I had no idea what was going on in my head and I knew, just knew I wouldn't drink just wanted to know why I wasn't enjoying my sobriety as much as I did and to be honest felt like crap.

                            Luckily a long talk with my GP (who has a great insight into addiction) told me this was perfectly normal. Although he put it more simply to me (I'm a simple soul) that I had been drinking for 20/30 + I couldn't expect everything to be hunky dory in a few months.

                            I suppose I'm here to say it doesn't happen to everyone, if it does passes, but we should be aware it could happen.

                            Thank TJ.
                            It could be worse, I could be filing.
                            AF since 7/7/2009

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                              #15
                              Post Acute Withdrawl Symptom

                              I usually get these symptoms 20 to 30 days in, I always have to brace myself I know it's coming but in the past I'd give in and drink it away no more I'll deal, btw jc I love the new pic of your dog she looks so cute!
                              I have too much shit to do today and tomorrow to drink:sohappy:

                              I'm taking care of the "tomorrow me":thumbsup:
                              Drinkin won't help a damn thing! Will only make me sick for DAYS and that ugly, spacey dumb feeling-no thanks!

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